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Old Jun 2, 16, 8:50 pm
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50- thanks to jlemon for the mention of ATA ... I hereby submit ATA as the outlier answer for MCO<-->SJU in 1997, operating yet another 72S
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Old Jun 2, 16, 10:41 pm
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7. US airlines serving cun in 1992
Continental (I'm more certain about this than the other three guesses)
America West
American
United
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Old Jun 3, 16, 11:38 am
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19. You are enjoying a nice late winter afternoon in Spokane, Washington when friends call and ask if you’d care to join them on a road trip along Route 66 through the Mojave Desert. The timing is a bit sudden – they’re leaving from their home in Santa Monica tomorrow morning – but as luck would have it the one and only nonstop flight from Spokane to LAX departs in a couple of hours at 6:35pm. Identify the airline and the aircraft operating this flight.

I'm pretty sure that Alaska Air did indeed provide nonstop service from Spokane to Los Angeles later in 1994 (hey, I worked for them back in the day).....but AS obviously was not doing so earlier in 1994. And then I remembered a new start up airline that eventually caught the eye of Southwest which subsequently acquired them: Morris Air (KN). So let's go with Morris Air operating a B737-300 in all coach configuration.

Yes Sir! Morris Air it was with a single daily 737-300 flight. Morris Air was founded by David Neeleman - perhaps best known in the U.S. for his involvement in the creation of JetBlue. He went on to found Brazil's Azul Airlines, of which he is currently CEO. Additionally he is part of a consortium that controls 61% of TAP Portugal.

20. If you live in Milwaukee and want to fly nonstop to Florida over the winter, this airline offers the only daily nonstop flights to Ft. Lauderdale, Ft. Myers, Orlando and Tampa. Identify the airline.

Another thought occurred to me concerning Milwaukee: it's not that far from Indianapolis (IND). And IND was the home of American Trans Air a.k.a. ATA Airlines (TZ) which was known for wintertime seasonal flights to such warm destinations as Florida. Thus, I'll guess this was ATA operating B727-200 equipment with an all Y cabin.

You're on a roll, JL! American Trans Air a.k.a. ATA Airlines it was, all flights being operated with 727-200 equipment. Included amongst them was one of the most colorfully liveried aircraft ever...

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28. These days, American Eagle will fly you nonstop between Los Angeles and Eugene, OR aboard a CRJ-700. Back in early 1992, this route was serviced with a single nonstop flight aboard a different airline and aircraft. Identify both, please.

Hmmmm.....your heading says 1996 but your question states 1992. I'll guess you actually meant early 1996. If so, I recall an obscure little airline that we have previously discussed (and that I cussed...after flying with them in a very cramped all coach, six abreast cabin): TriStar (T3). I do recall TriStar operating nonstop BAe 146 service between LAX and EUG....so that's my final answer.

Thank you for the clarification, JL, and my apologies to all for the typo which - when typing up fifty or more questions - I am unfortunately susceptible to. As to the answer, TriStar it was! And yes, the BAe-146 is poorly suited to a 3-3 seating arrangement. I had the misfortune of experiencing this configuration on Aspen Airways' bright orange -146 as well as United Express' -200 (operated by Air Wisconsin). Thankfully, both flights were short - between Denver and Aspen, CO.

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Old Jun 3, 16, 11:45 am
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50. Three airlines provided nonstop service on the fiercely competitive route between Orlando and San Juan, Puerto Rico. Identify each airline and if you feel up to it the aircraft type each airline was operating.
American and Kiwi International (727-200s) have been correctly identified so far. We're still looking for one more...

Thanks to jlemon for the mention of ATA... I hereby submit ATA as the outlier answer for MCO<-->SJU in 1997, operating yet another 72S

Wherever would we be without jlemon?! Spot on, J. I hereby deem this question correctly answered in full.
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Old Jun 3, 16, 11:52 am
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7. Identify the four U.S. airlines that serve Cancun, Mexico. (AA, CO, NW, Key)

US airlines serving Cancun in 1992 ~

Continental Correct!
America West Please - guess again!
American Correct!
United Please - guess again!

Both America West and United did eventually serve Cancun, just not yet in 1992.
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Old Jun 3, 16, 1:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A View Post
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7. Identify the four U.S. airlines that serve Cancun, Mexico.
American and Continental identified so far...
7. Let's go with Northwest from their Memphis hub and Key Air from their very short lived Savannah hub. Equipment? Probably a DC-9-30 operated by Northwest and a 727 flown by Key Air. Also interesting to note that Key Air started as a commuter air carrier in Idaho flying passengers into Sun Valley (SUN) with Twin Otter and Convair 440 equipment.
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Old Jun 3, 16, 1:11 pm
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Originally Posted by jlemon View Post
7. Identify the four U.S. airlines that serve Cancun, Mexico.
American and Continental identified so far...

Let's go with Northwest from their Memphis hub and Key Air from their very short lived Savannah hub. Equipment? Probably a DC-9-30 operated by Northwest and a 727 flown by Key Air. Also interesting to note that Key Air started as a commuter air carrier in Idaho flying passengers into Sun Valley (SUN) with Twin Otter and Convair 440 equipment.

Correct! Key Air operated 727-100 equipment with connecting flights into Savannah from a number of northeastern cities - which I don't have access to right now. Seeya tomorrow morning!
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Here's the local newspaper report: http://www.stargazette.com/story/new...area/85365722/.

I'll post some of my own photos when I can.

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29. Back in 1976, I flew between Fresno and San Francisco aboard a United DC-8-61. Sixteen years later, the only jet service on this route is via a single flight aboard this airline. Identify the airline and the equipment.

32. This airline operated twice weekly flights routing MIA-STT-STX-MIA utilizing 727-200 equipment. Identify the airline.
Time to tackle a couple of quiz items on a stormy afternoon concerning what I believe were two obscure, new start up air carriers...

29. This sure sounds like Air 21 (A7) which was a small airline we have discussed in the past. If so, aircraft would have been a Fokker F28 (a -4000 model, I think) configured with two classes of service, business and coach. I also seem to recall that Air 21 offered "Silver Service" in business class. One of the Air 21 principals was Mark Morro who had previously been one of the founders of Wings West which became an American Eagle carrier and then was acquired by AMR. So he probably had a few bucks to invest in Air 21....which was not in operation very long before folding.

32. Ah, the Caribbean. I've been there many times and have flown into many airports in the region over the years. And I arrived on other islands via sailboat many times in the past as well. There's nothing quite like flying over one of these beautiful islands on a sunny day ensconced in the first class cabin of somebody's A320, B727-200, B737-400, B737-800, B737-900, B757-200, DC-9-30, DC-10, L-1011 etc. whilst enjoying a suitable rum drink or glass of red wine and listening to jazz on the headphones of my personal sound system and, of course, admiring the scenery from my window seat..... and, yes ma'am, I'll take a refill here, please.......

However, I digress. Back to the quiz. Among the Caribbean airports I've been to a number of times are St. Croix and St. Thomas. The old terminal at STT was especially memorable. And it seemed like there was always some new airline operating jets or turboprops or prop aircraft that was trying to make a go of it serving STT and STX. I believe one of these was a very obscure air carrier: Prestige Airways (OI) operating 72S aircraft in all coach configuration. Like British Caribbean Airways (EO), which operated a BAe 146-100 into Tortola (EIS) in neighboring BVI, they only lasted a brief time.

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Originally Posted by Seat 2A View Post
8. In mid-1992, American Airlines was big on San Juan, Puerto Rico, offering nonstop service from fourteen different mainland U.S. airports. Identify each of them.
I'm basically just going down the Atlantic seaboard here ... cities where I'm fairly sure there was a substantial AA presence:
  1. Boston (BOS)
  2. New York (JFK)
  3. Newark (EWR)
  4. Philadelphia (PHL)
  5. Baltimore (BWI)
  6. Washingtpn (IAD)
  7. Raleigh-Durham (RDU)
  8. Orlando (MCO)
  9. Miami (MIA)
moving westward to AA's other hubs
10. Nashville (BNA)
11. Chicago (ORD)
12. Dallas (DFW)
last two at random
13. Tampa (TPA)
14. New Orleans (MSY)
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Old Jun 3, 16, 6:05 pm
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15. Nantucket jet service in 1992
-I'm going with Business Express, bae146, JFK
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Old Jun 3, 16, 9:04 pm
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15. Nantucket jet service in 1992
-I'm going with Business Express, bae146, JFK
Well, I thought about this as well.....

However, I do not think Business Express received their first BAe 146-200 aircraft until 1994.....which was an interim measure ahead of their Avro RJ-70 deliveries.
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Old Jun 3, 16, 9:53 pm
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Well, I thought about this as well.....

However, I do not think Business Express received their first BAe 146-200 aircraft until 1994.....which was an interim measure ahead of their Avro RJ-70 deliveries.
In that case, I'm going with Continental to Newark on a dc9-30. Rationale: Continental Express ran some of its largest turboprops on that route,, and I vaguely recall seasonal up gauges. There were no regional jets back then, and I don't think ACK has ever seen 737 or a320 service.
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29. Back in 1976, I flew between Fresno and San Francisco aboard a United DC-8-61. Sixteen years later, the only jet service on this route is via a single flight aboard this airline. Identify the airline and the equipment.

This sure sounds like Air 21 (A7) which was a small airline we have discussed in the past. If so, aircraft would have been a Fokker F28 (a -4000 model, I think) configured with two classes of service, business and coach. I also seem to recall that Air 21 offered "Silver Service" in business class. One of the Air 21 principals was Mark Morro who had previously been one of the founders of Wings West which became an American Eagle carrier and then was acquired by AMR. So he probably had a few bucks to invest in Air 21....which was not in operation very long before folding.

Right on! And thank you for the additional detail. It's hard to believe Air 21 would have had time to offer much of a Silver Service as its longest flight couldn't have been more than about an hour and twenty minutes long.

32. This airline operated twice weekly flights routing MIA-STT-STX-MIA utilizing 727-200 equipment. Identify the airline.

Ah, the Caribbean. I've been there many times and have flown into many airports in the region over the years. And I arrived on other islands via sailboat many times in the past as well. There's nothing quite like flying over one of these beautiful islands on a sunny day ensconced in the first class cabin of somebody's A320, B737-400, B737-800, B737-900, B757-200, DC-9-30, DC-10, L-1011 etc. whilst enjoying a suitable rum drink or glass of red wine and listening to jazz on the headphones of my personal sound system and, of course, admiring the scenery from my window seat..... and, yes ma'am, I'll take a refill here, please.......

However, I digress. Back to the quiz. Among the Caribbean airports I've been to a number of times are St. Croix and St. Thomas. The old terminal at STT was especially memorable. And it seemed like there was always some new airline operating jets or turboprops or prop aircraft that was trying to make a go of it serving STT and STX. I believe one of these was a very obscure air carrier: Prestige Airways (OI) operating 72S aircraft in all coach configuration. Like British Caribbean Airways (EO), which operated a BAe 146-100 into Tortola (EIS) in neighboring BVI, they only lasted a brief time.


Well I must say, JL, you sound more qualified than most to answer this question. And correct you are! Allow me then to present this photo I took from Seat 3F on a sunny afternoon over the lovely Caribbean... However, it came out so large that I will remove it after a day or so. Cheers from 3F ^
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Old Jun 4, 16, 1:17 am
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8. In mid-1992, American Airlines was big on San Juan, Puerto Rico, offering nonstop service from fourteen different mainland U.S. airports. Identify each of them.

I'm basically just going down the Atlantic seaboard here ... cities where I'm fairly sure there was a substantial AA presence:
  1. Boston (BOS) Correct!
  2. New York (JFK) Correct!
  3. Newark (EWR) Correct!
  4. Philadelphia (PHL) Correct!
  5. Baltimore (BWI) Correct!
  6. Washingtpn (IAD) Correct!
  7. Raleigh-Durham (RDU) Correct!
  8. Orlando (MCO) Correct!
  9. Miami (MIA) Correct!
moving westward to AA's other hubs

10. Nashville (BNA) Correct!
11. Chicago (ORD) Correct!
12. Dallas (DFW) Correct!
last two at random

13. Tampa (TPA) Correct!
14. New Orleans (MSY) Incorrect!
Ah... so close! Dang good start there, J! Awright then, go'n fetch that last city! Yew kin dew it!
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