jlemon

Ah, well, I'm unsure with regard to the actual frame of the car. That was quite awhile ago and the finer details have been obscured by the murky recesses of time.....but yes, I do seem to recall it was painted in two shades of grey. This Bentley also had one large third headlight located in the middle of the grill which I promptly named "the third eye". On our way back to Austin, we spent several days in Toronto (known then as "T.O.") and received a number of admiring looks while driving around the city (the car, not yours truly).

And speaking of older vehicles, I witnessed a take off yesterday morning from New Orleans Airport by what is now becoming an increasingly rare old bird: the DC-10-10. I was up on the second floor of the outdoor observation deck at the Atlantic Aviation FBO which is located on the north side of the airfield (and has an expansive view of MSY) across the runway from the pax terminal when I noted the DC-10 begin to taxi from the FedEx ramp. "Oh, I've got to watch this departure", I thought and so I did.

Indelaware

Seeing no one else jumping in with the answer, I'll take another guess.

Possibilities seem to be:

A larger island-airport, e.g. Taipai (or other airport on Taiwan), Hong Kong, or Auckland.
Several minor island airports, including ROR, PNI, KSA, & HIR.
A second airport in either the Philippines or Japan.

I don't think it would be any of those. Therefore, my guess is Port Moresby, but it really is a stab in the dark.

jlemon

30. Hmmmm....I cannot recall any airline flying nonstop between Port Moresby and Honolulu. Plus, I wonder if there would have been enough traffic on the route to justify service. And the old airport at Kai Tak serving Hong Kong was actually located on the mainland (I flew into Kai Tak one fine evening on board an L-1011-500 operated by Delta).

However, I can think of another destination which you indeed mentioned: Auckland on the North Island of New Zealand with Air New Zealand operating the DC-8 between AKL and HNL.

Indelaware

POM would have had to have depended upon through traffic, not POM O&D.

As to AKL, I had twisted the dates. I had thought that NZ received their first DC-8 in 1966 and that the question asked about 1965. In fact, the question asks about 1966 and NZ received the DC8-52 in 1965. I think, therefore, you are correct.

Seat 2A

Seat 2A

30. Aside from airports in the Hawaiian Islands, Honolulu enjoys nonstop jet service from 8 other islands around the Pacific. Identify these islands. ALMOST THERE - Only one island destination left...

Per Indelaware: Seeing no one else jumping in with the answer, I'll take another guess. Possibilities seem to be:

A larger island-airport, e.g. Taipai (or other airport on Taiwan), Hong Kong, or Auckland.
Several minor island airports, including ROR, PNI, KSA, & HIR.
A second airport in either the Philippines or Japan.

I don't think it would be any of those. Therefore, my guess is Port Moresby, but it really is a stab in the dark.

Per jlemon: Hmmmm....I cannot recall any airline flying nonstop between Port Moresby and Honolulu. Plus, I wonder if there would have been enough traffic on the route to justify service. And the old airport at Kai Tak serving Hong Kong was actually located on the mainland (I flew into Kai Tak one fine evening on board an L-1011-500 operated by Delta).

However, I can think of another destination which you indeed mentioned: Auckland on the North Island of New Zealand with Air New Zealand operating the DC-8 between AKL and HNL.

Per Indelaware: POM would have had to have depended upon through traffic, not POM O&D. As to AKL, I had twisted the dates. I had thought that NZ received their first DC-8 in 1966 and that the question asked about 1965. In fact, the question asks about 1966 and NZ received the DC8-52 in 1965. I think, therefore, you are correct.

Once again, jlemon has stepped in and done an admirable job of batting clean up. To quote the late Ed McMahon: "You are correct, Sir! Har-Har-Har!!" It was indeed Air New Zealand with a nonstop DC-8 flight from Auckland.

Seat 2A

Good job, gang! Here are the two remaining unanswered questions...

The following questions are taken from a North American OAG published in 1966


3. In 1966 five airlines operate domestic flights with DC-6s while another three utilize DC-7s. Identify each respective airline. Hint: Only one airline operates both types. ALMOST THERE - DC-6s are correct, and now we need only the missing DC-7 operator... ...

19. Identify the westernmost city with domestic service aboard a DC-7. Further identify the airline and the route flown.

Indelaware

Perhaps the clue here is westernmost...

Sheyma to Anchorage on NW? Perhaps with a stop or two along the way.

jrl767

if so, that also picks off the last remaining DC7 operator in q3 (as we already have DL and BN)

jlemon

Hmmmmm....I do not think Northwest was still operating passenger service with the DC-7 by 1966. I do believe NW was operating a DC-7C flight once a week back in 1963 with a routing of New York-Chicago-Seattle-Anchorage-Tokyo and this was actually a mixed passenger and freight combi service with the aircraft being configured with an all coach cabin in addition to the freight section on the main deck. However, by 1966 I believe Northwest was only operating all cargo service domestically with the DC-7CF (NW was also operating B707-320B and -320C freighters at this time primarily on international routes to Asia).

So I am trying to think of who was still operating pax service with the DC-7 in the U.S. in 1966......

jrl767

3- DL and BN are in; NA and EA are out ... so if not NW, we are left with the other historical DC-7 operators (AA, CO, PA, and UA)

we had a question a couple months ago regarding UA's west coast DC-7 service, so perhaps OAK is our answer (just because I think Seat 2A tends to avoid questions with reasonably intuitive answers such as SFO)

if not, I'm at a loss as to the last operator ... but I will again posit "BN, SAT" as the answer to the "westernmost" question even though that's been wrong once already in this quiz

Indelaware

AA retired the DC-7 in 1963, UA in 1964 so they are out. PA retired its DC-7 in 1966 so it is a possibility. Not sure when they left the CO fleet.

WHBM

Northwest was still operating DC-7CF Passenger-Freight combis into 1966, but only on a JFK-Milwaukee-Minneapolis routing, overnight both ways which required two aircraft. They had three such aircraft still in service, N284/88/89, finally sold to a dealer at the end of 1968, but Northwest had a habit of holding on to retired aircraft long before disposal.

Northwest didn't have much luck with the DC-7C, no less than three of their relatively small fleet crashed into the Pacific, seemingly the old trouble as elsewhere with the Wright Turbo-Compound engines. I wonder if Douglas, or the airlines, ever regretted the move from the DC-6B on to the DC-7.

jlemon

Ah, I thought this Northwest DC-7CF operation was purely an all cargo flight. Interesting to learn it was actually a combi service. Was the freight transported in the forward section of the aircraft with passengers in the back much like the 727QC and 737 combis? And WHBM, you just may have provided the correct answer here. We shall see what our man in Alaska says......

Also interesting to note that although the DC-7 had been retired by United by 1966, the DC-6B continued to soldier on in the UA fleet for a bit longer.

Here's a bonus quiz item....

Identify a route operated by Pan Am with DC-6B equipment in 1966. And there may have been more than just one route flown outside of the U.S. by PA with the aircraft. ANSWERED

jrl767

I think PA was transitioning Berlin<-->Hamburg and Berlin<-->Hannover services from DC-6s to 727s in the mid-1966 timeframe