Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
Feb 15, 2015, 2:14 pm
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I think this would be Guyana Airways, who were the only operator of the Tu154 in The Americas at the time, coming in from Georgetown. They got a new aircraft early in 1986, which after a few years was disposed to Cubana, and later went back to Russia, where it has trickled through a few secondary operators. Last heard of in Krasnoyarsk only a few years ago, so it might still be flying. You would think that Cubana would have been well placed to support this one-aircraft operation, but bizarrely this was done by Tarom of Romania, who had also provided a loan aircraft the previous year fully painted up in Guyana colours.
** Aha. Beaten to it above **
** Aha. Beaten to it above **
It has been reported that the other Tu154 previously operated by Guyana Airways (registration YR-TPJ) crashed in Bucharest, Romania in 1989.
Guyana Airways also operated a number of different Boeing 707 models during its existence, including the B707-123B, B707-321B, B707-323B and B707-344B. Other aircraft in their fleet included the Boeing 737-200, Hawker Siddeley HS 748, Lockheed L-188 Electra and de Havilland Canada DHC-6 Twin Otter. I believe a subsequent version of the airline, Guyana Air 2000, also operated Airbus A300B4 and Boeing 757-200 equipment.
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Feb 15, 2015, 2:47 pm
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Here's one of the loan Tarom Tu154-B aircraft at Miami in 1985. One (TPK) came initially, then was changed for another (TPJ) when a major check was due. Guyana Airways titles and tail logo, but the Tarom cheatline. TPJ was indeed later lost at Bucharest on a training flight simulating engine failure at takeoff.
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Guyan...58c740b878fbb5
and here's Guyana's own Tu154-M aircraft (different engines, look closely eg at the intake or the centre engine exhaust), from early 1986 to late 1988
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Guyan...58c740b878fbb5
Romania had got into significantly hard times at this period, and leasing their airliner fleet out was one contribution. They also had a large BAC One-Eleven fleet, which was part of a manufacturing transfer agreement where the UK production line was progressively moved over to Romania in the 1980s, although the build rate never really got going beyond about one aircraft a year, they took most of the decade to build just 9 aircraft, and these were leased out, with crews, to various operators across Europe, in particular to a very young startup called - Ryanair. These came with pilots, and it was such a prestige posting to work in The West that most of those who came were test pilots from the factory. Their flying skills were first class but their English left much to be desired, and all announcements on Ryanair short of an emergency were given by the cabin crew. Pity poor ATC. I wonder how Miami Tower coped. There were also tales that they were given western currency for hotels in Britain/Ireland, but kept the money and slept in the aircraft overnight.
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Guyan...58c740b878fbb5
and here's Guyana's own Tu154-M aircraft (different engines, look closely eg at the intake or the centre engine exhaust), from early 1986 to late 1988
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Guyan...58c740b878fbb5
Romania had got into significantly hard times at this period, and leasing their airliner fleet out was one contribution. They also had a large BAC One-Eleven fleet, which was part of a manufacturing transfer agreement where the UK production line was progressively moved over to Romania in the 1980s, although the build rate never really got going beyond about one aircraft a year, they took most of the decade to build just 9 aircraft, and these were leased out, with crews, to various operators across Europe, in particular to a very young startup called - Ryanair. These came with pilots, and it was such a prestige posting to work in The West that most of those who came were test pilots from the factory. Their flying skills were first class but their English left much to be desired, and all announcements on Ryanair short of an emergency were given by the cabin crew. Pity poor ATC. I wonder how Miami Tower coped. There were also tales that they were given western currency for hotels in Britain/Ireland, but kept the money and slept in the aircraft overnight.
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Feb 15, 2015, 2:48 pm
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how about a standard DC-8, a 747, and a DC-10-30
Feb 15, 2015, 2:56 pm
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- Dayton
- Columbus
- Pittsburgh
- Elmira
- Ithaca
- Utica
Feb 15, 2015, 3:17 pm
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UA 107: PIT 11:20a - 11:49a ORD 1:00p - 3:15p LAX
Op: Daily
Equip: 747
And here is a bonus quiz item:
26) Besides United, another airline was also operating daily wide body service from Pittsburgh to Los Angeles at this time and this flight made an intermediate stop en route as well. This flight departed PIT 35 minutes before the United 747 flight and arrived at LAX over an hour earlier than the UA flight. Identify the air carrier, the equipment and intermediate stop. ANSWERED - TWA with L-1011 service, PIT-ORD-LAX
4) DC-8: Incorrect.
B747: Correct!
DC-10-30: Incorrect.
Please guess again!
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Feb 15, 2015, 3:21 pm
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4: the only other jets in the CP fleet that come to mind would be a Stretch 8 and a 737-200
26: TWA L-1011 via St Louis
26: TWA L-1011 via St Louis
Feb 15, 2015, 3:24 pm
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10) Allegheny with a BAC One-Eleven is correct! However, the routing was just a bit different as you can see above.....
Feb 15, 2015, 3:30 pm
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4: the only other jets in the CP fleet that come to mind would be a Stretch 8 and a 737-200 Well, both the D8S and 73S were not being flown nonstop between YVR and YYZ at this time. So there were two more aircraft types being operated by CP in early 1976......
26: TWA L-1011 via St Louis
26: TWA L-1011 via St Louis
However, this flight did not stop in St. Louis (STL).......
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Feb 15, 2015, 3:50 pm
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10: the other stops would have been Cleveland (CLE) and Williamsport (IPT)
I flew various portions of this milk run during my student days:
Jun 75 AL 540 ITH-UCA-JFK, N1136J
Nov 75 AL 540 PIT-IPT-ITH, N1544
Dec 75 AL 538 ORD-DAY-CLE (overflew IND due to fog), N1132J
26: Phoenix?
I flew various portions of this milk run during my student days:
Jun 75 AL 540 ITH-UCA-JFK, N1136J
Nov 75 AL 540 PIT-IPT-ITH, N1544
Dec 75 AL 538 ORD-DAY-CLE (overflew IND due to fog), N1132J
26: Phoenix?
Feb 15, 2015, 4:08 pm
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10: the other stops would have been Cleveland (CLE) and Williamsport (IPT)
I flew various portions of this milk run during my student days:
Jun 75 AL 540 ITH-UCA-JFK, N1136J
Nov 75 AL 540 PIT-IPT-ITH, N1544
Dec 75 AL 538 ORD-DAY-CLE (overflew IND due to fog), N1132J
26: Phoenix? Nope.....
I flew various portions of this milk run during my student days:
Jun 75 AL 540 ITH-UCA-JFK, N1136J
Nov 75 AL 540 PIT-IPT-ITH, N1544
Dec 75 AL 538 ORD-DAY-CLE (overflew IND due to fog), N1132J
26: Phoenix? Nope.....
AL 540: Indianapolis (IND) 8:00a - 8:30a Dayton (DAY) 8:50a - 9:30a Cleveland (CLE) 9:50a - 10:24a Pittsburgh (PIT) 10:55a - 11:41a Williamsport (IPT) 11:59a - 12:27p Ithaca (ITH) 12:47p - 1:15p Utica (UCA) 1:35p - 2:36p New York (JFK)
Op: AL 540 originated at CLE on Sundays (IND-DAY-CLE daily except Sun.)
Equip: BAC One-Eleven
Feb 15, 2015, 4:10 pm
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5) This airline was operating the only direct service from Victoria, B.C. to Toronto. Two intermediate stops were made en route and the flight was operated daily. Identify the air carrier, the equipment and both stops.
Feb 15, 2015, 4:15 pm
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Feb 15, 2015, 4:17 pm
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As one who can appreciate more than most the amount of time required to research and formulate these questions, I'd just like to start by offering a big Thank You! to jlemon for coming up with this impressive collection of questions. I';ve got just enough time to have a go at one of them...
22. In the winter of 1991, this airline was operating nonstop jet service once a week from Vail, Colorado via Eagle County Airport (EGE) to both Los Angeles (LAX) and San Francisco (SFO). And this same air carrier was also flying nonstop five days a week to a third destination. Identify the airline and this third destination.
I seem to recall this being American Airlines. It stood out at the time because normally I would've figured AA to serve EGE from its traditional bases at DFW and ORD. So, assuming I've guessed correctly, I would say the other city AA served EGE from would likely have been DFW.
22. In the winter of 1991, this airline was operating nonstop jet service once a week from Vail, Colorado via Eagle County Airport (EGE) to both Los Angeles (LAX) and San Francisco (SFO). And this same air carrier was also flying nonstop five days a week to a third destination. Identify the airline and this third destination.
I seem to recall this being American Airlines. It stood out at the time because normally I would've figured AA to serve EGE from its traditional bases at DFW and ORD. So, assuming I've guessed correctly, I would say the other city AA served EGE from would likely have been DFW.
Feb 15, 2015, 4:28 pm
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As one who can appreciate more than most the amount of time required to research and formulate these questions, I'd just like to start by offering a big Thank You! to jlemon for coming up with this impressive collection of questions. I';ve got just enough time to have a go at one of them...
22. In the winter of 1991, this airline was operating nonstop jet service once a week from Vail, Colorado via Eagle County Airport (EGE) to both Los Angeles (LAX) and San Francisco (SFO). And this same air carrier was also flying nonstop five days a week to a third destination. Identify the airline and this third destination.
I seem to recall this being American Airlines. It stood out at the time because normally I would've figured AA to serve EGE from its traditional bases at DFW and ORD. So, assuming I've guessed correctly, I would say the other city AA served EGE from would likely have been DFW.
22. In the winter of 1991, this airline was operating nonstop jet service once a week from Vail, Colorado via Eagle County Airport (EGE) to both Los Angeles (LAX) and San Francisco (SFO). And this same air carrier was also flying nonstop five days a week to a third destination. Identify the airline and this third destination.
I seem to recall this being American Airlines. It stood out at the time because normally I would've figured AA to serve EGE from its traditional bases at DFW and ORD. So, assuming I've guessed correctly, I would say the other city AA served EGE from would likely have been DFW.
Feb 15, 2015, 5:01 pm
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22. In the winter of 1991, this airline was operating nonstop jet service once a week from Vail, Colorado via Eagle County Airport (EGE) to both Los Angeles (LAX) and San Francisco (SFO). And this same air carrier was also flying nonstop five days a week to a third destination. Identify the airline and this third destination.
Hmm... well, if it's not AA, I'm going to go with United. UA also operated a flight up from Denver.
Hmm... well, if it's not AA, I'm going to go with United. UA also operated a flight up from Denver.