Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
Jan 6, 2014, 6:10 pm
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8) We'll give this one to cs57 as he also correctly guessed the equipment being flown on MSY-JFK route. Here are the scheds....
EA 32: Dep. MSY 10:55am, Arr. JFK 2:31pm
Op: Daily
Equip: 727
PA 986: Dep. MSY 12:00n, Arr. JFK 3:48pm
Op: Daily
Equip: 72S
TW 880: Dep. MSY 12:00n, Arr. JFK 3:48pm
Op: Daily
Equip: 72S
DL 524: Dep. MSY 12:15pm, Arr. JFK 3:56pm
Op: Daily
Equip: 72S
Jan 6, 2014, 6:23 pm
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2) Casper WY (CPR), Sheridan WY (SHR), West Yellowstone MT (WYS)
7) This would have been American International Airways which operated a small fleet of DC-9s (I'm thinking -30, may have been -80)
16) This would be United ... the route from Tokyo went thru Seattle the rest of the week; I rode upstairs on the SEA-ORD segments a couple times
7) Correct! I believe American International (NI) operated DC-9-30 equipment. Destinations served nonstop from Atlantic City included BOS, BUF, CLE, DTW, FLL, MCO, MIA, PBI, PIT and TPA. In addition, Chicago was also served but I'm not sure if the airport was MDW or ORD.....
16) Correct! United operated this service every Tuesday between ORD and PDX with a B747 in both directions. The other six days of the week the service was operated by UA with a B727-200.
Jan 6, 2014, 10:43 pm
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Ah... some free time! Lessee if I can bat clean up here...
2) SHR and WYS are correct, CPR is incorrect. There was another, smaller destination served at this time by WA with the 73S.....
How about Butte, Montana? I flew through there back in May of 1976 aboard a Western 73S and later that summer aboard a Northwest
Orient 72S. Pretty small place...
14) This air carrier was operating BAC One-Eleven service into Lincoln, NE (LNK). Name the airline.
Well if it's not Braniff in 1985 (did Braniff ever serve Lincoln? I know its 1-11s were regulars over at Eppley Field in Omaha) that doesn't leave a whole lot of choices in the region - either Air Illinois or Britt. I always remember Britt as being much more regional than Air Illinois, whose route network spread all the way down to Tennessee. On the basis of Air Ill spreading its wings a bit farther than Britt (except for Britt's work as a CO feeder) ah'mon go with Air Illinois.
How about Butte, Montana? I flew through there back in May of 1976 aboard a Western 73S and later that summer aboard a Northwest
Orient 72S. Pretty small place...
14) This air carrier was operating BAC One-Eleven service into Lincoln, NE (LNK). Name the airline.
Well if it's not Braniff in 1985 (did Braniff ever serve Lincoln? I know its 1-11s were regulars over at Eppley Field in Omaha) that doesn't leave a whole lot of choices in the region - either Air Illinois or Britt. I always remember Britt as being much more regional than Air Illinois, whose route network spread all the way down to Tennessee. On the basis of Air Ill spreading its wings a bit farther than Britt (except for Britt's work as a CO feeder) ah'mon go with Air Illinois.
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Jan 7, 2014, 1:12 am
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Hmm..., second guess on number 9. WA operated DC-10s between SLC and JFK. Not sure if they also operated DC-10s nonstop between SLC and IAD. Or, they used the DC-10 that originated in SLC on an interline route between JFK and IAD. These schedules and cities were changing in WA's route system between 1981 to 1987. New York service did not exist in 1981. Then there was service in 1983 with DC-10s. Then, the DC-10s were pulled from JFK and IAD service by 1987.
Jan 7, 2014, 11:11 am
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the way jlemon initially posed the question was "between two cities in the eastern US" ... so IAD-JFK as a "tag-on" similar to MIA-FLL would seem to fit, since SLC is scarcely "in the eastern US" ... I was fixated on MSP service to points east, but the same logic applies with respect to geography, and I can't put anything but a 72S on those flights
Jan 7, 2014, 2:47 pm
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The next seven questions all have a time line of 1985:
12) Now you are in Las Vegas enjoying a superb dinner with very good friends at the Prime Steakhouse located in the Bellagio hotel. You receive an urgent message with the following question: can you be present for a business meeting in Tampa the next afternoon? You quickly ascertain there is a direct red eye flight departing LAS in a just a few hours at 1:30am that will get you into TPA by 12:30pm. Hmmmm....that seems like quite a bit of elapsed time for a direct flight.....and then you discover this flight is a classic milk run with no less than five intermediate stops en route. Name the airline you'll be flying on as well as the aircraft type and all five intermediate stops.
12) Now you are in Las Vegas enjoying a superb dinner with very good friends at the Prime Steakhouse located in the Bellagio hotel. You receive an urgent message with the following question: can you be present for a business meeting in Tampa the next afternoon? You quickly ascertain there is a direct red eye flight departing LAS in a just a few hours at 1:30am that will get you into TPA by 12:30pm. Hmmmm....that seems like quite a bit of elapsed time for a direct flight.....and then you discover this flight is a classic milk run with no less than five intermediate stops en route. Name the airline you'll be flying on as well as the aircraft type and all five intermediate stops.
You're right, that was a real milk run!
Jan 7, 2014, 5:01 pm
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#23 - Tahoe Air operated by Casino Express 737-200's
Jan 7, 2014, 6:08 pm
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Another looooooong day of business in the big city of Houston, folks.....and I'm finally back in my nice room in the Hilton not too far from the Galleria.
2) Well, this destination was actually smaller, population-wise, than Butte!
BTW, the last time I departed from Butte was on board a Delta 72S for Salt Lake City with an intermediate stop in Bozeman. And shortly after that, DL ceased mainline flights from BTM and turned all service over to SkyWest operating as the Delta Connection.
14) No, I do not think the original Braniff ever served Lincoln....and certainly not with jet equipment.
As for Air Illinois.....well, sir, it was actually another airline!
2) Well, this destination was actually smaller, population-wise, than Butte!
BTW, the last time I departed from Butte was on board a Delta 72S for Salt Lake City with an intermediate stop in Bozeman. And shortly after that, DL ceased mainline flights from BTM and turned all service over to SkyWest operating as the Delta Connection.
14) No, I do not think the original Braniff ever served Lincoln....and certainly not with jet equipment.
As for Air Illinois.....well, sir, it was actually another airline!
Last edited by jlemon; Jan 7, 2014 at 7:19 pm Reason: additional info.....
Jan 7, 2014, 6:29 pm
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Hmm..., second guess on number 9. WA operated DC-10s between SLC and JFK. Not sure if they also operated DC-10s nonstop between SLC and IAD. Or, they used the DC-10 that originated in SLC on an interline route between JFK and IAD. These schedules and cities were changing in WA's route system between 1981 to 1987. New York service did not exist in 1981. Then there was service in 1983 with DC-10s. Then, the DC-10s were pulled from JFK and IAD service by 1987.
WA 560: LAX-SLC-IAD-JFK
Op: Daily
Equip: DC-10
WA 561: JFK-IAD-SLC-LAX
Op: Daily
Equip: DC-10
BTW, Western was operating a number of DC-10 flights to and from SLC at this very same time including:
SLC-ANC - one daily round trip nonstop
SLC-IAD - one daily round trip nonstop
SLC-IAH - one daily round trip nonstop
SLC-JFK - two daily round trip nonstops
SLC-LAS - once a week nonstop (actual routing HNL-> LAS-> SLC)
SLC-LAX - three daily round trip nonstops
SLC-SFO - one daily round trip nonstop
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Last edited by jlemon; Jan 7, 2014 at 8:12 pm Reason: additional routing info....
Jan 7, 2014, 6:45 pm
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12) No, it was not Ozark.....it was another airline.
14) Correct! Air Wisconsin (ZW) was operating two nonstops a day with the BAC One-Eleven between LNK and ORD.....and they were competing with future code sharing partner United which was operating three LNK-ORD nonstops a day, two flights with B737-200 equipment and one flight with a B727-100.
Jan 7, 2014, 7:10 pm
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Now, I could not find the flight and routing you mentioned but I did find the following scheds.....
WA 411: MSP-FSD-PIR-RAP-CPR-SLC-LAX
Op: Daily
Equip: B737-200
WA 412: SAN-ONT-SLC-CPR-RAP-PIR-FSD-MSP
Op: Daily
Equip: B737-200
WA 470: DEN-RAP-PIR-FSD-MSP
Op: Daily
Equip: B737-200
WA 475: MSP-FSD-PIR-RAP-DEN
Op: Daily
Equip: B737-200
Lil' ol' Pierre has not seen mainline jet service such as this in quite some time.....
Jan 7, 2014, 7:17 pm
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Jan 10, 2014, 7:58 am
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3) In 1974, this famous Hollywood actor was reportedly asked by a ticket agent why he chose to fly on Continental Airlines. His response: "This operation is class! Strictly class!" Name the actor.
12) Also in 1984, this U.S. based start up airline prominently featured connecting flight services provided by another airline that had begun operations some years earlier. The timetable route map of the start up air carrier also depicted the connecting routes operated by the other air carrier. Both airlines were operating mainline type jet fleets at the time. Identify this air carrier as well as the partner airline.
The next four questions all have a time line of 1985:
13) Now you are in Las Vegas enjoying a superb dinner with very good friends at the Prime Steakhouse located in the Bellagio hotel. You receive an urgent message with the following question: can you be present for a business meeting in Tampa the next afternoon? You quickly ascertain there is a direct red eye flight departing LAS in a just a few hours at 1:30am that will get you into TPA by 12:30pm. Hmmmm....that seems like quite a bit of elapsed time for a direct flight.....and then you discover this flight is a classic milk run with no less than five intermediate stops en route. Name the airline you'll be flying on as well as the aircraft type and all five intermediate stops.
18) Three airlines were operating daily nonstop mainline jet service on the short hop from Ontario (ONT) to Los Angeles (LAX) at this time. Name all three and also identify the respective equipment types they flew on the route.
20) It's almost Christmas in 1989 and you are in Chicago. You've been involved in project work in the region but now it's time for a holiday break. It just so happens that your old sailing buddy has returned to his hometown of Santa Barbara and his catamaran is now berthed at the Santa Barbara Harbor. December weather has been quite benign in the Santa Barbara Channel as southern California is experiencing yet another winter drought with clear, sunny skies being prevalent on most days. "Hey buddy", your old friend says on the phone, "you up for a sail trip for a week to the Channel Islands and their namesake national park off the coast?" Of course, you're in! You quickly discover one airline offers direct one stop service between ORD and SBA on a daily round trip basis. The intermediate stop is a bit of a surprise and it's the same airport in both directions. Identify the airline, the aircraft type you'll be flying on and the intermediate stop.
21) Also during the Christmas of 1989, only one airline was operating nonstop service between Houston Hobby (HOU) and Miami (MIA). Two round trip flights were operated each day but with different equipment. Name the airline and the respective aircraft types it operated on the route.
22) Once again during the Christmas of 1989, three different airlines were operating jet service into Val-d'Or, Quebec (YVO). Each air carrier was flying a different aircraft type, none of which was a regional jet. Identify all three airlines and the respective jet aircraft they operated into YVO. Partially answered....AC D9S and CP 73S service....
25) Lake Tahoe (TVL) currently has no air service and has not had any scheduled passenger flights for many years. With quiz items 23) and 24) in mind, three other airlines operated jet service into TVL over the years. Name all three and the respective aircraft each operated from Lake Tahoe.
26) What airline based in Africa served Houston Intercontinental (IAH) in the past with one flight a week? And what type of jet aircraft was flown on this service? This flight also made one intermediate stop while en route from IAH to its primary destination. Identify the primary destination as well as the intermediate stop.
Last edited by jlemon; Jan 11, 2014 at 11:38 am Reason: answer updates & correction to 18)