Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
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Meantime, Republic was operating nonstop DC-9-10 service on a Saturday and Sunday only schedule.....and RC was also operating a daily flight with a DC-9-50. Republic inherited this route from Southern when SO merged with North Central to form RC. The MIA-GCM route was Southern's only international service during its existence......
Following the acquisition of RC by Northwest, NW continued to fly the MIA-GCM route with DC-9-30 equipment. I remember talking my way onto this NW flight on an NRSA airline employee pass basis after missing an earlier KX flight due to a late arriving DL flight at MIA.......the NW station manager at MIA was in a good mood that evening!
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based on a nominal operating range for a 727-100, the destination pretty much has to be in Canada ... NE was running BOS-YUL in the late 60s and early 70s, but the 727 production list doesn't show any deliveries of -95C/QC models ...
speaking of Combi (again), here's the answer to the question I tossed out a couple weeks back --
in 1977-78 Western operated a late-night 707-347C LAX-SFO-SEA-ANC, departing around 9pm PST and arriving around 330am AST
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...C_Silagi-1.jpg
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based on a nominal operating range for a 727-100, the destination pretty much has to be in Canada ... NE was running BOS-YUL in the late 60s and early 70s, but the 727 production list doesn't show any deliveries of -95C/QC models ...
speaking of Combi (again), here's the answer to the question I tossed out a couple weeks back --
in 1977-78 Western operated a late-night 707-347C LAX-SFO-SEA-ANC, departing around 9pm PST and arriving around 330am AST
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...C_Silagi-1.jpg
speaking of Combi (again), here's the answer to the question I tossed out a couple weeks back --
in 1977-78 Western operated a late-night 707-347C LAX-SFO-SEA-ANC, departing around 9pm PST and arriving around 330am AST
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...C_Silagi-1.jpg
And interesting to learn of Western's B707 Combi service back in the late 70s....
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I suspect the other was Air Florida with a 737-200
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BTW, Eastern was also operating five daily nonstops from GNV to ATL at this time: one flight with a B727-100, one flight with a DC-9-30 and three flights with DC-9-50 equipment.....
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8) First Air (7F) is correct! The airline was operating daily except Saturday nonstop service between Ottawa and Boston with a B727-100 Combi.
First Air (formerly Bradley Air Services) is still around although they no longer operate any scheduled passenger flights to the U.S. This Canadian air carrier flies Boeing 737-200 Combis as well as ATR-42 and ATR-72 turboprops in sched pax services. First Air also operates Lockheed L382G (L-100 Hercules) and Boeing 767-223 freighter aircraft......
First Air (formerly Bradley Air Services) is still around although they no longer operate any scheduled passenger flights to the U.S. This Canadian air carrier flies Boeing 737-200 Combis as well as ATR-42 and ATR-72 turboprops in sched pax services. First Air also operates Lockheed L382G (L-100 Hercules) and Boeing 767-223 freighter aircraft......
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8) First Air (7F) is correct! The airline was operating daily except Saturday nonstop service between Ottawa and Boston with a B727-100 Combi.
First Air (formerly Bradley Air Services) is still around although they no longer operate any scheduled passenger flights to the U.S. This Canadian air carrier flies Boeing 737-200 Combis as well as ATR-42 and ATR-72 turboprops in sched pax services. First Air also operates Lockheed L382G (L-100 Hercules) and Boeing 767-223 freighter aircraft......
First Air (formerly Bradley Air Services) is still around although they no longer operate any scheduled passenger flights to the U.S. This Canadian air carrier flies Boeing 737-200 Combis as well as ATR-42 and ATR-72 turboprops in sched pax services. First Air also operates Lockheed L382G (L-100 Hercules) and Boeing 767-223 freighter aircraft......
didn't 7F also operate the HS-748? as in, is "First Air" also the answer to Q6 above?
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6) Quite perceptive there, jrl22! First Air most certainly operated the Hawker Siddeley HS-748.....and one of the routes flown by the aircraft was Ottawa-Boston. 7F was operating the HS-748 on a morning roundtrip flight YOW-BOS at the same time they were operating an afternoon roundtrip flight with a B727-100 Combi on the same route. Note that my comments above concerned First Air's current fleet......
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11. What was the first “private” (non-Aeroflot) Russian carrier of modern times ?
11) I do not think this one has been answered yet so I'll take a stab at it: Transaero Airlines (UN).
11) I do not think this one has been answered yet so I'll take a stab at it: Transaero Airlines (UN).
BTW, some Transaero aircraft have the name of the air carrier in Cyrillic rather than English, which looks something like "TPAHCADPO" (although I do not think that's actually a D, it's most likely a Cyrillic character that does not have an English equivalent).
Many Russian carriers have titles in Cyrillic on one side and Roman on the other.
Peter the Great said 300 years ago that the greatest obstacle to Russia developing along with the rest of Europe was the Cyrillic alphabet instead of the Roman one. The Internet however has done for it in recent years, and many things like the Metro station signs and maps now appear with "transliteration" underneath, that is Russian names written using Roman characters - like 'Transaero' !
8. What was the principal supersonic route the Tupolev 144 was operated on ?
Moscow to Alma Ata (ALA)
Moscow to Alma Ata (ALA)
17. The international airport at Moscow only has one domestic route operated from there, although it has 11 departures a day. Other domestic flights go from the other two airports, which are domestic only. What is this solitary domestic destination ?
I'll guess it was Pulkovo (LED) in St. Petersburg.
I'll guess it was Pulkovo (LED) in St. Petersburg.
But apart from that, correct.
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Very interesting to learn of the loss of a Tu144 SST near Yegoryevsk in 1978.
WHBM, would you have any details concerning this accident?
WHBM, would you have any details concerning this accident?
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It was CCCP-77111, the 10th production aircraft, on 28 May 1978. It caught fire in midair and made an emergency landing in fields. Yegoryevsk is just outside Moscow, not too far from the Monino museum.
http://aviation-safety.net/database/...?id=19780523-1
http://aviation-safety.net/database/...?id=19780523-1
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browsing some old posts that I hadn't previously read ...
... fading memories and lack of readily available real documentation ...
I have boarding passes, and ticket jackets where I wrote the aircraft number
... LAX-IAD red-eyes nonstop with a 733 ... CO flew 733s from the merger which were equipped with IFE specifically installed by NYAir for that route ...
Apr 86, CO 22, N16301 (actually CO's first 733)
... Eastern flew LAX-ORD as part of their Moonlight Specials ...
Jan 86, EA 1698, A300 N220EA
from about age 5 on, I would bug my parents to stop by the airport in pretty much any major city that we transited on our numerous car trips ... the jaunt to EXPO 67 in Montreal was no exception, and I distinctly remember taking several photos of the Nordair Super Connie on the far side of the runway
I also recall taking pix of two classic large turboprops that afternoon ... a Vanguard and a TU-114
... One of the problems we run into is fading memories and lack of readily available real documentation. A couple of similar examples: The guy who runs departedflights.com swears up and down that NYAir never ran LAX-IAD red-eyes nonstop with a 733 because it doesn't appear in any timetable. Yet I was at a boarding gate next to the flight one evening at LAX so I know it existed, plus CO flew 733s from the merger which were equipped with IFE specifically installed by NYAir for that route. Another example, people claim that Eastern flew LAX-ORD as part of their Moonlight Specials, since it does appear in at least one of their timetables of the era. I was flying LAX-MKE a lot during that period, but never once found that flight ever in live OAG schedules on CompuServe nor on any departure board at LAX nor available for purchase directly from Eastern, even though I wanted to buy a ticket on it more than once.
The truth is out there somewhere! ...
The truth is out there somewhere! ...
... fading memories and lack of readily available real documentation ...
I have boarding passes, and ticket jackets where I wrote the aircraft number
... LAX-IAD red-eyes nonstop with a 733 ... CO flew 733s from the merger which were equipped with IFE specifically installed by NYAir for that route ...
Apr 86, CO 22, N16301 (actually CO's first 733)
... Eastern flew LAX-ORD as part of their Moonlight Specials ...
Jan 86, EA 1698, A300 N220EA
... From the June 1968 Nordair timetable....
ND 43: depart Montreal (YUL) 11:59pm, arrive Resolute (YRB) 7:15am - This flight operated on Tuesdays only (with a Wednesday morning arrival at YRB).
ND 44: depart Resolute (YRB) 9:15am, arrive Frobisher Bay (YFB) 2:15pm, depart Frobisher Bay (YFB) 3:15pm, arrive Montreal (YUL) at 8:15pm - This flight operated on Wednesdays only. Note that Frobisher Bay is now known as Iqaluit.
So according to this timetable, the service was a nonstop going north Montreal-Resolute and a onestop heading back south via Frobisher Bay.
Equipment was a Lockheed L-1049H Super Constellation. ...
ND 43: depart Montreal (YUL) 11:59pm, arrive Resolute (YRB) 7:15am - This flight operated on Tuesdays only (with a Wednesday morning arrival at YRB).
ND 44: depart Resolute (YRB) 9:15am, arrive Frobisher Bay (YFB) 2:15pm, depart Frobisher Bay (YFB) 3:15pm, arrive Montreal (YUL) at 8:15pm - This flight operated on Wednesdays only. Note that Frobisher Bay is now known as Iqaluit.
So according to this timetable, the service was a nonstop going north Montreal-Resolute and a onestop heading back south via Frobisher Bay.
Equipment was a Lockheed L-1049H Super Constellation. ...
I also recall taking pix of two classic large turboprops that afternoon ... a Vanguard and a TU-114
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Strangely the 1967 Aeroflot timetable, which is on line at Timetable Images, does not show any service to Montreal, whereas my Tu114 history I have here says the service there started on 4 November 1966, changing over to an IL-62 on 15 September 1967, so the huge Tupolev would have handled what Expo67 traffic there was from Moscow. Actually there was probably quite a bit; the Soviet Pavilion was one of the largest there, and, never ones to waste a building, it was dismantled afterwards and shipped back to Moscow where it was erected in VDNKh, a vast Soviet-era permanent exposition site in the north of the city, nowadays sadly dilapidated and quiet. It does have a Tu154 and a Yak-42, plus some rockets, on plinths at the main entrance !
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I believe Tupolev built one prototype of the Tu-144 followed by sixteen production models.
The Concorde, on the other hand, saw a total of 20 examples built if my memory serves me correctly. However, of this 20, I believe only fourteen were destined for airline use by BA and AF......