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Old May 31, 23, 11:21 pm
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Originally Posted by moondog
39. (1966) A thorough perusal of the OAG has revealed that as of autumn 1966, four U.S. states had no jet service at all. Identify each of the four states. Only complete guesses naming all four states will be accepted.

My computer is currently in Beijing being repaired, and I'm too lazy to pull up the "states with interal flights" threads, but they provide clues. When my computer comes back, I will make a proper guess, but I'm going with DE, ND, SD, and IA for now.

One of your guesses is correct, and it has been mentioned often in previous guesses... Good luck with your fixed computer!
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17. (1986) If you want to fly in First Class on a through fare from Allentown, PA to Montreal, QB, only one airline can accommodate you via a single connection and two nonstop flights – both of them being operated with the same aircraft type. Identify the airline, the routing and the aircraft type.

Well, I think PeoplExpress may have reconfigured all of their Boeing aircraft to include a first class cabin by this time....so that's the air carrier I'm gonna go with. As for the equipment operated on both flights, I'll guess it was the 737-200. And as for the connection, it would have been made at their Newark hub, of course.

PE does sound quite reasonable, but NO! It was another airline though the 73S was the aircraft of record. Need a new route, too

37. (1974) Ever since your first flight aboard a DC-10 back in December of 1972,you just love that airplane. The design, the huge windows, the sound of the big GE engines on takeoff - they all combine to create the ultimate flying experience - at least per your tastes and sensibilities. Tomorrow starts The Big Day - an orgy of DC-10 flights between Miami and Honolulu that will involve five nonstop flights aboard five different airlines. That means four connection points, one of which will be Chicago. Your onward flight to Honolulu will be aboard a foreign airline, because after a week in Hawaii, you'll be continuing on to that airline's home country. Of all the foreign carriers that stop in Honolulu as part of their U.S. services, this is the only airline that does so with the DC-10. So then, you've got a lot of flying tomorrow. Can you remember your routing and the five airlines involved between Miami and Honolulu? What's your international destination after Honolulu?

Let me dive in here and get this DC-10 adventure rolling.....

* Delta: Miami -> Atlanta
* Northwest Orient: Atlanta -> Chicago O'Hare
* United: Chicago O'Hare -> Denver
* Continental: Denver -> Los Angeles
* Air New Zealand: Los Angeles -> Honolulu

And the final destination would be Auckland.


Good on ya, Mate! Spot on on all counts -

Delta DL 1054 Miami (MIA) 800a-846a Tampa (TPA) DC-10 Daily
Northwest NW 735 Tampa (TPA) 1000a- 1138a B Chica go (ORD) DC-10 Daily
United UA 463 Chicago (ORD) 110p-235p L Denver (DEN) DC-10 Daily
Continental CO 917 Denver (DEN) 515p-629p D Los Angeles (LAX) DC-10 X6
Air New Zealand TE 555 Los Angeles (LAX) 900p-1135p D Honolulu (HNL) DC-10 X57
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27. (1986) You need to fly from Chicago to Nassau next week for a wind surfing competition. Being self employed, youve got plenty of time to enjoy and employ your other passion in flying to Nassau that being flying aboard different airlines and aircraft. To that end, youve found a great itinerary involving two enroute connections via three airlines, each operating a nonstop flight utilizing different twin jets, each built by a different manufacturer. All of the aircraft are configured in an all-economy class layout. No 757s are involved. Nor is US Air. From this, can you determine the complete routing, the three airlines and the three aircraft types?

I have to believe the last leg was a Bahamasair 737, which could have come from a number of cities in Florida (Miami/MIA, Ft. Lauderdale/FLL, West Palm Beach/PBI, and Tampa/TPA)

my initial idea for the second leg was Florida Express, with a BAC 1-11 from somewhere in the Ohio Valley to Orlando/MCO, but the absence of the BH connection means that wont work

since I cant think of another 1-11 operator save USAir, and since the ground rules for this question say that US is not involved, Ill suggest that the ZO jet actually ran MCO-FLL; that fits nicely with a Midway DC-9-10 on MDW-MCO


The last leg was indeed a Bahamasair 737. Neither Florida Express nor Midway was involved in this itinerary - though Orlando is in the routing. No BAC-111s were routed through Orlando though. Your answer is otherwise getting very warm...
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37- just being a curmudgeonly detail-oriented guy, I notice that jlemon guessed the first connection point as ATL, but Seat 2A indicated it was TPA

also, the fact that NW is involved in this itinerary belies the “GE engines” attribute; while they later acquired several GE-powered Series 30s on the secondary market, their original tranche of Series 40s featured the P&W JT9D-20
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Originally Posted by jrl767
37- just being a curmudgeonly detail-oriented guy, I notice that jlemon guessed the first connection point as ATL, but Seat 2A indicated it was TPA

You are indeed correct. Apologies to all for this unseemly gaffe. I was seeing the order of the airlines and overlooked the TPA/ATL error. Gettin' old is a b*t*h

Also, the fact that NW is involved in this itinerary belies the “GE engines” attribute; while they later acquired several GE-powered Series 30s on the secondary market, their original tranche of Series 40s featured the P&W JT9D-20

As to the above stuff you've written - I stand by the GE Engines statement given that the wording of the question (Ever since your first flight aboard a DC-10 back in December of 1972) indicates December 1972 and per the Northwest Airlines history site, Northwest did not commence operations with the DC-10 until January of 1973. Thus, anyone flying a DC-10 prior to January of 1973 would have flown aboard a GE powered variant. More on this available below -

https://northwestairlineshistory.org...route-history/
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1. (1966)
From your home base in Merida, Mexico you’ve received an offer to pick up a yacht in Curacao and deliver it to Punta Gorda, Florida. The offer is quite reasonable, so now the only question is how soon can you get there? You’ve found an attractive one stop flight to a connection point, followed by a nonstop flight to Curacao. Two airlines and two different aircraft are involved here. Identify them both as well as the routing please.
A N S W E R E D

3. (1995) Who'd’ve thought Durango, Mexico was just a single connection via two nonstop flights away from Winnipeg, Canada? Not you! Two airlines will be involved, each operating a different aircraft type. Heck, you’ll even get a snack and lunch along the way. Compralo, Danno! Identify the two airlines, the connection point and the two aircraft types.

4. (1974) Family business has you traveling later this week between Ciudad Obregon, Mexico and your home base in Colorado Springs. The thought of traveling between these two secondary cities leads you to believe it will be a long and convoluted journey, but you’re pleased to discover that you can do so via just two flights – the first a one stopper to your connection point followed by a nonstop into Colorado Springs. Of course, two airlines are involved and each operates a different type of aircraft. Identify if you can all the usual stuff involved in these questions.

6. (1986) Business calls in the form of a sales presentation in Rockford, Illinois next week. From your home base in Philadelphia, you’ve found a convenient itinerary involving two nonstop flights on two different airlines. Both airlines will be operating the same equipment, and First Class is available on both flights. Book it, Danno. Please provide all the usual particulars.

10. (1986) It’s vacation time again and this year you and the love of your life are off to San Juan, Puerto Rico. There are, however, a couple of caveats. First, she refuses to travel through New York’s John F. Kennedy International Airport ever again. Second, if it can be arranged, she’d love to see what it would be like to travel in First Class. Happy wife, happy life - so you promise to see what you can do. Alas, there are no nonstops from anywhere in Canada to San Juan. However, with a little help from your travel agent sister, you think you’ve found a suitable option. You’ll depart out of Montreal’s Mirabel Airport on a one stop flight to a connection point where you’ll overnight before boarding a nonstop flight the next morning to San Juan. Two airlines will be involved, utilizing two different aircraft with a total of seven engines. Identify the two airlines, the complete routing and the aircraft types.

12. (1986) You’ve recently received an offer to invest in a new resort being built in Puerto Plata in the Dominican Republic. From your corporate headquarters in Mexico City, you’re surprised to find that you can fly to Puerto Plata via a single connection involving two nonstop flights. Both aircraft involved are built outside of the United States, though both are also built in the same country. Identify the airlines, the route and the two aircraft.

15. (1966) You’ve gotten wind of an intriguing business opportunity in Colorado and so need to fly from your home in Sioux Falls, SD to Denver. Alas, Western’s nonstop 720B is sold out and, given your size (6’3”, 255 lbs) you need a First Class seat. To that end, you’ve found a connection that should work. It involves two twin jets, each built by a different manufacturer and each offering a First Class cabin. The first flight makes one enroute stop to the connection point and dinner will be served. The second flight is nonstop into Denver. Book it, Danno! Airlines, routing and aircraft types, please.
A N S W E R E D

17. (1986) If you want to fly in First Class on a through fare from Allentown, PA to Montreal, QB, only one airline can accommodate you via a single connection and two nonstop flights – both of them being operated with the same aircraft type. Identify the airline, the routing and the aircraft type.
It's not PE but is a 73S

18. (1995) You’ll be flying from Hartford, Connecticut to Orlando, Florida next week. You try to place a call to Eastern Airlines only to find out they’re no longer flying. Whaaaaat?!! When did that happen? A quick call to your trusty travel agent reveals not one but FIVE different airlines operating nonstop between Hartford and Orlando. Even more amazing, each airline operates a jet type unique and different from each of the other four. Identify each of the five airlines and the aircraft type each operates. Complete guesses only please, meaning ALL five airlines and aircraft.

21. (1986) It’s been a great week of sun and fun on Maui. You almost hate to go home to Tucson, especially after the three flight nightmare you endured on the outbound trip. Thankfully the return looks much more promising – two nonstop flights via a single online connection. Identify the airline, the routing and the two aircraft types involved.

23. (1966) A thorough perusal of the OAG has revealed that as of autumn 1966, there were four states west of the Mississippi River that had scheduled flights with Lockheed Constellations of any variant. Identify the four states and, if you’re up for it, which state had the most airports served with Connies.
Missouri (STL, MKC) Washington (SEA) Alaska (ANC, OME, HOM, ADQ, ENI, CDV, YAK, JNU, UNK)

24. (1986) The Canadian capital of Ottawa is a lovely place to live, but after a particularly long and cold winter you can’t wait to commence your vacation next week at the famous Las Brisas Hotel in Acapulco, Mexico. As an added bonus, flying from Ottawa to Acapulco will involve only two nonstop flights on two different airlines via a single well timed connection. Two different aircraft types will be involved, both of them built by the same manufacturer. The aircraft are powered by different engine types, though each engine type is built by the same engine manufacturer. A total of six engines are involved. So armed with this plethora of clues can you identify the two airlines, the routing and the two aircraft types?
A N S W E R E D

27. (1986) You need to fly from Chicago to Nassau next week for a wind surfing competition. Being self employed, you’ve got plenty of time to enjoy and employ your other passion in flying to Nassau – that being flying aboard different airlines and aircraft. To that end, you’ve found a great itinerary involving two enroute connections via three airlines, each operating a nonstop flight utilizing different twin jets, each built by a different manufacturer. All of the aircraft are configured in an all-economy class layout. No 757s are involved. Nor is US Air. From this, can you determine the complete routing, the three airlines and the three aircraft types?
A N S W E R E D

30. (1986) Per your tastes at least, the world’s greatest party is the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival, otherwise known as Jazz Fest. From your home in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania you’ve got several air travel options. Over the years, you’ve employed most of them including those from Allegheny and TWA. This year, you’re looking forward to a new routing and a different airline all the way through from MDT to MSY. You’ll fly nonstop to the connection point, then on to New Orleans via a one-stop flight. Both flights will be operated by the same aircraft type. Identify the airline, the complete routing and the aircraft type.
A N S W E R E D

32. (1986) Indianapolis, Indiana sure is nice in the spring, but who wouldn’t jump at the chance to spend a week on the sun kissed beaches of Puerto Vallarta, Mexico? Alas, American and Continental are sold out through their respective hubs. Fortunately another option is available – one that will allow you to travel in First Class all the way via a single connection and two nonstop flights. Both flights will be operated by the same aircraft type and breakfast will be served on both flights. Identify all the usual particulars please.

39. (1966) A thorough perusal of the OAG has revealed that as of autumn 1966, four U.S. states had no jet service at all. Identify each of the four states. Only complete guesses naming all four states will be accepted.
DE WY ME

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I think you mean ADQ.
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
15. (1966) You’ve gotten wind of an intriguing business opportunity in Colorado and so need to fly from your home in Sioux Falls, SD to Denver. Alas, Western’s nonstop 720B is sold out and, given your size (6’3”, 255 lbs) you need a First Class seat. To that end, you’ve found a connection that should work. It involves two twin jets, each built by a different manufacturer and each offering a First Class cabin. The first flight makes one enroute stop to the connection point and dinner will be served. The second flight is nonstop into Denver. Book it, Danno! Airlines, routing and aircraft types, please.

24. (1986) The Canadian capital of Ottawa is a lovely place to live, but after a particularly long and cold winter you can’t wait to commence your vacation next week at the famous Las Brisas Hotel in Acapulco, Mexico. As an added bonus, flying from Ottawa to Acapulco will involve only two nonstop flights on two different airlines via a single well timed connection. Two different aircraft types will be involved, both of them built by the same manufacturer. The aircraft are powered by different engine types, though each engine type is built by the same engine manufacturer. A total of six engines are involved. So armed with this plethora of clues can you identify the two airlines, the routing and the two aircraft types?
Mrs767 and I have been enjoying a FT-centric weekend in NYC (Brooklyn Reality Tour yesterday and WineDO this evening)

I guess my guesses on these a week or so back didn’t clear the standby list

15-
  • FSD-OMA-MKC, Braniff BAC1-11
  • MKC-DEN Continental DC-9-10

24-
  • YOW-JFK Air Canada DC-9-30
  • JFK-ACA Aeromexico DC-8-61
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30. (1986) Per your tastes at least, the worlds greatest party is the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival, otherwise known as Jazz Fest. From your home in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania youve got several air travel options. Over the years, youve employed most of them including those from Allegheny and TWA. This year, youre looking forward to a new routing and a different airline all the way through from MDT to MSY. Youll fly nonstop to the connection point, then on to New Orleans via a one-stop flight. Both flights will be operated by the same aircraft type. Identify the airline, the complete routing and the aircraft type.
It's a BAC-111
30. As we already know the aircraft type, I'll guess this was Florida Express via a connection at their Orlando hub.

However, I'm not quite sure about the stop between MCO and MSY. So what the heck.....wild guess time: St. Pete-Clearwater International (PIE).
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1. (1966) From your home base in Merida, Mexico youve received an offer to pick up a yacht in Curacao and deliver it to Punta Gorda, Florida. The offer is quite reasonable, so now the only question is how soon can you get there? Youve found an attractive one stop flight to a connection point, followed by a nonstop flight to Curacao. Two airlines and two different aircraft are involved here. Identify them both as well as the routing please.
1. Well, my first inclination was to go with the usual suspects here with the connection being made in Miami.

However, let's try a somewhat more exotic guess....

Mexicana Comet from Merida to Kingston via a stop in Montego Bay and then connecting to a VIASA Convair 880 nonstop to Curacao.
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15. (1966) Youve gotten wind of an intriguing business opportunity in Colorado and so need to fly from your home in Sioux Falls, SD to Denver. Alas, Westerns nonstop 720B is sold out and, given your size (63, 255 lbs) you need a First Class seat. To that end, youve found a connection that should work. It involves two twin jets, each built by a different manufacturer and each offering a First Class cabin. The first flight makes one enroute stop to the connection point and dinner will be served. The second flight is nonstop into Denver. Book it, Danno! Airlines, routing and aircraft types, please.
  • FSD-OMA-MKC, Braniff BAC1-11
  • MKC-DEN Continental DC-9-10
That's the ticket

Braniff BN 247 Sioux Falls (FSD) 641p-720p D Omaha (OMA) 738p-817p Kansas City (MKC) BAC-111 Daily
Continental CO 169 Kansas City (MKC) 1015p-1150p S Denver (DEN) DC-9-10 Daily

24. (1986) The Canadian capital of Ottawa is a lovely place to live, but after a particularly long and cold winter you cant wait to commence your vacation next week at the famous Las Brisas Hotel in Acapulco, Mexico. As an added bonus, flying from Ottawa to Acapulco will involve only two nonstop flights on two different airlines via a single well timed connection. Two different aircraft types will be involved, both of them built by the same manufacturer. The aircraft are powered by different engine types, though each engine type is built by the same engine manufacturer. A total of six engines are involved. So armed with this plethora of clues can you identify the two airlines, the routing and the two aircraft types?

YOW-JFK Air Canada DC-9-30
JFK-ACA Aeromexico DC-8-61


You've got the right airlines, but the connection point is different as is one of the variants. Success is just around the corner
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30. (1986) Per your tastes at least, the world’s greatest party is the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival, otherwise known as Jazz Fest. From your home in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania you’ve got several air travel options. Over the years, you’ve employed most of them including those from Allegheny and TWA. This year, you’re looking forward to a new routing and a different airline all the way through from MDT to MSY. You’ll fly nonstop to the connection point, then on to New Orleans via a one-stop flight. Both flights will be operated by the same aircraft type. Identify the airline, the complete routing and the aircraft type.
It's a BAC-111

As we already know the aircraft type, I'll guess this was Florida Express via a connection at their Orlando hub. However, I'm not quite sure about the stop between MCO and MSY. So what the heck.....wild guess time: St. Pete-Clearwater International (PIE).

You're well on your way to success here, JL. Florida Express is the carrier of record, however PIE - logical as that might seem - is surprisingly not the enroute stop.

You'll get this next time...

1. (1966) From your home base in Merida, Mexico you’ve received an offer to pick up a yacht in Curacao and deliver it to Punta Gorda, Florida. The offer is quite reasonable, so now the only question is how soon can you get there? You’ve found an attractive one stop flight to a connection point, followed by a nonstop flight to Curacao. Two airlines and two different aircraft are involved here. Identify them both as well as the routing please.

Well, my first inclination was to go with the usual suspects here with the connection being made in Miami. However, let's try a somewhat more exotic guess....

Mexicana Comet from Merida to Kingston via a stop in Montego Bay and then connecting to a VIASA Convair 880 nonstop to Curacao.


Your instincts serve you well, JL Both flights are correct!

Mexicana MX 305 Merida (MID) 135p-420p Montego Bay (MBJ) 450p-515p Kingston (KIN) Comet 4 We Su
KLM Royal Dutch KL 936 Kingston (KIN) 635p-910p
D Curacao (CUR) Convair 880 We Fr


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I think you mean ADQ.
I do, thanks
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1. I had guessed VIASA as the Convair 880 operator between Kingston and Curacao; however, it appears the airline was actually KLM Royal Dutch. Could this have been a KLM flight operated with VIASA equipment?

30. Yet another wild guess: Birmingham (BHM).
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1. (1966) From your home base in Merida, Mexico youve received an offer to pick up a yacht in Curacao and deliver it to Punta Gorda, Florida. The offer is quite reasonable, so now the only question is how soon can you get there? Youve found an attractive one stop flight to a connection point, followed by a nonstop flight to Curacao. Two airlines and two different aircraft are involved here. Identify them both as well as the routing please.

Well, my first inclination was to go with the usual suspects here with the connection being made in Miami. However, let's try a somewhat more exotic guess....

Mexicana Comet from Merida to Kingston via a stop in Montego Bay and then connecting to a VIASA Convair 880 nonstop to Curacao.


Your instincts serve you well, JL Both flights are correct!

Mexicana MX 305 Merida (MID) 135p-420p Montego Bay (MBJ) 450p-515p Kingston (KIN) Comet 4 We Su
KLM Royal Dutch KL 936 Kingston (KIN) 635p-910p
D Curacao (CUR) Convair 880 We Fr


I had guessed VIASA as the Convair 880 operator between Kingston and Curacao; however, it appears the airline was actually KLM Royal Dutch. Could this have been a KLM flight operated with VIASA equipment?

Oops. I need to slow down and thoroughly read these responses. In the OAG the flight shows as KLM with a KL flight number. However, I believe the aircraft was leased from VIASA with each side of the aircraft painted to reflect KLM or VIASA.

https://www.airteamimages.com/convai...es_186992.html

30. (1986) Per your tastes at least, the worlds greatest party is the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival, otherwise known as Jazz Fest. From your home in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania youve got several air travel options. Over the years, youve employed most of them including those from Allegheny and TWA. This year, youre looking forward to a new routing and a different airline all the way through from MDT to MSY. Youll fly nonstop to the connection point, then on to New Orleans via a one-stop flight. Both flights will be operated by the same aircraft type. Identify the airline, the complete routing and the aircraft type.
It's a BAC-111

As we already know the aircraft type, I'll guess this was Florida Express via a connection at their Orlando hub. However, I'm not quite sure about the stop between MCO and MSY. So what the heck.....wild guess time: St. Pete-Clearwater International (PIE).

You're well on your way to success here, JL. Florida Express is the carrier of record, however PIE - logical as that might seem - is surprisingly not the enroute stop.

Yet another wild guess: Birmingham (BHM).

Thet's raht!

Florida Express ZO 712 Harrisburg (MDT) 415p-635p Orlando (MCO) BAC-111 Daily
Florida Express ZO 315 Orlando (MCO) 935p-1005p Birmingham (BHM) 1020p-1120p New Orleans (MSY) BAC-111 Daily
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