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Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.

Old Mar 23, 2023, 7:41 pm
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Originally Posted by YVR Cockroach
15. What is the oldest airline in Asia still flying while using the name it began service with?

I'll stab and guess it's Philippine Airlines

You are on quite the roll of late, YVR! Philippine Airlines is Correct!

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Old Mar 23, 2023, 7:43 pm
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Originally Posted by joejones
7. For many of us here on this side of the pond, our introduction to Laker Airways was in the 1970s via its low cost “SkyTrain” flights operated with red and black on white liveried DC-10s and the odd 707. Most of us had never heard of Laker Airways before, though across the Atlantic it had been flying charters with a variety of aircraft since 1966. Here’s the question – what was the first aircraft type to wear Laker’s distinctive red and black on white livery?

Gonna guess a BAC 111.

You'd think so, wouldn't ya? I know I would've and yet - it was a different aircraft type.

Please, guess again!
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Old Mar 23, 2023, 8:21 pm
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32. Ft. Wayne International Airport (Indiana) to Chicago O’Hare International seems like an innocuous route on which to launch the first ever U.S. service with a new type of jet, but so it was some forty years ago. Identify the airline and the aircraft type.

AA operating a Fokker 100

According to my source, AA did not launch the Fokker 100 on the FWA-ORD route, although that would certainly seem a plausible choice for the twinjet. But no, we're looking for a different airline operating a different jet on this route. Please, guess again!

33. When the Republic merger with Hughes Airwest was finally made official in 1983, the combined route network included service to all but thirteen states. Identify ALL of those states please.

1 DE Correct!
2 RI Correct!
3 VT Correct!
4 NH Correct!
5 ME Correct!
6 CT Correct!
7 HI Correct!
8 WY Correct!
9 WV Correct!
10 NC Incorrect
11 SC Incorrect
12 AK Incorrect
13 SD Incorrect

Dang, Herb! You got off to such a good start I figured you had this one aced. Dag nabbit! Sorry - spilled some Chivas on meself in the turbulence. Anyway, keep at it please. Also, there're 14 states. I fergot about Hawaii!
For #32, how about Air Wisconsin with a BAe 146?


For #33:
10. KS
11. OK
12. NM
13. MT
14. MD
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Old Mar 23, 2023, 9:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Herb687
32. Ft. Wayne International Airport (Indiana) to Chicago O’Hare International seems like an innocuous route on which to launch the first ever U.S. service with a new type of jet, but so it was some forty years ago. Identify the airline and the aircraft type.

How about Air Wisconsin with a BAe 146?

Good call, Herb You are indeed Correct!

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33. When the Republic merger with Hughes Airwest was finally made official in 1983, the combined route network included service to all but thirteen states. Identify ALL of those states please.
1 DE Correct!
2 RI Correct!
3 VT Correct!
4 NH Correct!
5 ME Correct!
6 CT Correct!
7 HI Correct!
8 WY Correct!
9 WV Correct!
10 NC Incorrect
11 SC Incorrect
12 AK Incorrect
13 SD Incorrect
10. KS Incorrect
11. OK Correct!
12. NM Correct!
13. MT Correct!
14. MD Incorrect

12 down, 2 to go!
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Old Mar 23, 2023, 9:58 pm
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Old Mar 23, 2023, 10:00 pm
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I thought for this batch of queries I’d try to come up with a few historical questions along with a few esoteric types such as liveries. The problem I encountered was that unlike many of our schedule based questions where the answer is not always so easily available online, the answers to many of these historical questions are just a quick Google search away.

So, we might as well acknowledge that the only person preventing anyone from looking up the answer is that person themselves. For what it’s worth, this is ostensibly a “quiz” and hopefully everyone is on their honor to give the best answer they can based on what they already know – which might well be the correct answer given the knowledge base in play amongst you all. And if you’re wrong, well therein lies the fun and interaction of working out the answer amongst ourselves. And if you want to go and look up the answer, well, I guess you’ll at least look smart but where’s the fun or challenge in that?

Speaking of participants, I know we have a lot of “lurkers”, some of whom might like to participate. I actually received a PM from one person who said that while he really enjoyed the OTAQ&D, he was a bit intimidated to attempt an answer given the dominance - be it knowledge or activity level - of some of our core participants. Part of it was potential embarrassment at being wrong and part of it was missing out on attempting a couple of answers because they’d been gobbled up ahead of him.

What can I say? To some extent you’ve just got to dive in and give it your best go – knowledge or timing be damned. At the same time, in the interests of a potentially more inclusive quiz environment - amongst those of us who know it all and can easily answer the bulk of these questions (some of which address more recent history or liveries) over a very short time, perhaps we might initially at least hang back a bit on the easier looking questions. We’ll know them when we see them and if they’re still there after a few days, go for it. Again, this is only a suggestion and I am of course open to input from any of you. While I am forever more grateful for our core participants and their contributions, it would be nice to have more people involved in our little party should they so desire.

As always, please limit responses to two per day – yada yada – you all know how it works by now. And now, let’s go have some fun.


1. This airline had four logo-jets promoting NFL teams. All of the logo-jets were the same aircraft type. Identify the airline, the aircraft type and the four NFL teams.

2. This proposed widebody – based upon a twin engine aircraft already in service – was on the drawing boards during the late 1960s. The project was shelved in 1970. Anybody know the manufacturer and name of this proposed aircraft?

5. Name two NFL franchises that have purchased their own team liveried widebody jets for team travel. Identify the jet type operated by each team.

6. Four airlines have painted masks on the noses of one of their airplanes. Identify each airline and the aircraft types so painted. No faces are on the planes. Just masks.

7. For many of us here on this side of the pond, our introduction to Laker Airways was in the 1970s via its low cost “SkyTrain” flights operated with red and black on white liveried DC-10s and the odd 707. Most of us had never heard of Laker Airways before, though across the Atlantic it had been flying charters with a variety of aircraft since 1966. Here’s the question – what was the first aircraft type to wear Laker’s distinctive red and black on white livery?
A N S W E R E D

8. This airline had five logo-jets promoting three NFL teams, one MLB baseball team and one NBA basketball team. All of the logo-jets were the same aircraft type. Identify the airline, the aircraft type and the five sports teams.

9. In the 1960s, two U.S. airlines branded a jet aircraft type in their fleet using the exact same name. Each airline operated a different aircraft type titled as such. Identify each airline and the aircraft type so branded in its fleet

10. Four different airlines have painted “logo-jets” affiliated with the same NFL franchise. The NFL franchise in question was founded in 1960 and has won multiple Super Bowls. Three of these airlines painted full on “logojets” while the other airline affixed a large sticker of the team emblem on the fuselage of two different aircraft types over the years. Identify each airline and the aircraft type utilized as a logo jet.

11. This major U.S. airport got its start as a Douglas aircraft assembly plant. Hundreds of C-54s were assembled there during WWII. It commenced commercial airline services in the 1950s. Which airport is this?
A N S W E R E D

13. What was the first airline to operate its converted Convair 340/440s as re-engined turboprop Convair 580s?
A N S W E R E D

14. The first Qantas jet flight, flown between London and Sydney in 1959, made four enroute stops. Identify them please.

15. What is the oldest airline in Asia still flying while using the name it began service with?
A N S W E R E D

16. What was the last U.S. airline with a fleet size over 30 (including jets) to operate piston engine aircraft? What was the aircraft in question?
A N S W E R E D

17. What was the first airline in the U.K. aside from B.O.A.C. to use jets on revenue passenger flights? What type of jet did it employ?

21. Identify the jetliner involved in the world’s first airmail to be transported by jetliner (not military jet). Bonus points if you know the route.

22. This U.S. “Local Service” airline commenced jet service almost one year before any of its similarly sized local service competitors. Identify the airline and the jet type.

23. Considering all of the world’s airlines, forty years ago this airline operated the world’s largest DC-9 fleet
A N S W E R E D

24. What was the first local service airline to offer flights with a First Class cabin? Identify the airline and the aircraft type, please. Bonus points if you can name the second and it’s a/c type.

25. In the late 1980s, this Australian airline purchased a 20% stake in a top ten U.S. airline. Identify both airlines involved.

26. What were the only two airlines to convert their 747-200s via the SUD Stretched Upper Deck conversion project?
KLM so far, need one more

27. This airline is said to be the first in the UK to employ jet aircraft exclusively on all UK domestic flights. Identify the airline and the aircraft type it was using on those domestic flights

28. What was the world’s first airport to offer flight, rail and road access all at the same terminal?
A N S W E R E D

29. When the 747 was introduced in 1970, most airlines had it configured to carry about 350 passengers with a First Class lounge on the upper deck. So far as I know, only U.S. airlines offered coach lounges in their 747s. One airline claimed to offer a seating configuration that included not one but SIX lounges onboard. One upstairs, two in First Class on the main deck and three more back in Economy. Which airline was this?

32. Ft. Wayne International Airport (Indiana) to Chicago O’Hare International seems like an innocuous route on which to launch the first ever U.S. service with a new type of jet, but so it was some forty years ago. Identify the airline and the aircraft type.
A N S W E R E D

33. When the Republic merger with Hughes Airwest was finally made official in 1983, the combined route network included service to all but thirteen states. Identify ALL of those states please.
12 out of 2 so far...

34. (1986) You’ve got an opportunity to work as an apprentice copywriter for the Times of London. From your home outside Gaithersburg, Baltimore/Washington International Airport is actually closer than Washington Dulles. Yeah, but does anyone fly to London from there? Yes! Two airlines – one via a one stop direct flight, the other with a nonstop. You book the nonstop and crack a cold beer to celebrate your good find. Identify the airline and equipment used on the flight.
A N S W E R E D

35. Identify the two airlines involved in the very first interchange flight service in the U.S. and the year it commenced. Additionally we’re looking for the start and end point of the interchange as well as the connection airport between the two airlines.

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Old Mar 23, 2023, 10:57 pm
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Originally Posted by jrl767
13. What was the first airline to operate its converted Convair 340/440s as re-engined turboprop Convair 580s?

Ok, herewith my second offer of Frontier

Right on, J - Frontier it is!

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Old Mar 23, 2023, 11:25 pm
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BTW, I figured some of you might enjoy the view I've got at present from my comfy seat in Malaysia Airlines' Golden Lounge. It's a bit hazy and muggy outside but a pleasant 70 degrees here inside.


I'll check back in tomorrow morning (for me at least - GMT +008) to address further responses. Let's knock off some of those liveries! Go Broncos!
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Old Mar 23, 2023, 11:29 pm
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11. This major U.S. airport got its start as a Douglas aircraft assembly plant. Hundreds of C-54s were assembled there during WWII. It commenced commercial airline services in the 1950s. Which airport is this?
Douglas Aircraft Corp. is always associated with Long Beach so LGB may seem to be the evident, but also wrong, answer.
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Old Mar 23, 2023, 11:55 pm
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Originally Posted by YVR Cockroach
11. This major U.S. airport got its start as a Douglas aircraft assembly plant. Hundreds of C-54s were assembled there during WWII. It commenced commercial airline services in the 1950s. Which airport is this?

Douglas Aircraft Corp. is always associated with Long Beach so LGB may seem to be the evident, but also wrong, answer.

Additionally, if LGB ever did qualify as a "major U.S. airport", it must've been before my time.

Please, guess again!
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Old Mar 24, 2023, 1:41 am
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11 might be ORD?
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Old Mar 24, 2023, 4:37 am
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A

7. For many of us here on this side of the pond, our introduction to Laker Airways was in the 1970s via its low cost “SkyTrain” flights operated with red and black on white liveried DC-10s and the odd 707. Most of us had never heard of Laker Airways before, though across the Atlantic it had been flying charters with a variety of aircraft since 1966. Here’s the question – what was the first aircraft type to wear Laker’s distinctive red and black on white livery?
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Old Mar 24, 2023, 4:49 am
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28. What was the world’s first airport to offer flight, rail and road access all at the same terminal?
Could it be Gatwick Airport?
It's had a railway station in the 1930s.
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Old Mar 24, 2023, 8:18 am
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A

22. This U.S. “Local Service” airline commenced jet service almost one year before any of its similarly sized local service competitors. Identify the airline and the jet type.
22. Well, I thought this might be a DC-9-10 operator....

However, I shall instead go with a wild guess: Pacific Air Lines with the B727-100.
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Old Mar 24, 2023, 9:13 am
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11. This major U.S. airport got its start as a Douglas aircraft assembly plant. Hundreds of C-54s were assembled there during WWII. It commenced commercial airline services in the 1950s. Which airport is this?
DACO had a major assembly facility in El Segundo, on the south side of what is now LAX. Postwar, the El Segundo plant focused almost exclusively on military and experimental aircraft, such as A-3s and A-4s for the Navy, and, especially memorable to me, the D-558-2 Skyrocket, IMO one of the most beautiful planes ever built. My mother was the secretary to the DACO test pilots, including Bill Bridgeman, who drove the D-558-2 on some of its first supersonic runs. I believe it was the first aircraft to exceed Mach 2.



I think, but am not sure, that Douglas also built the X-3 at El Segundo but moved it (in pieces?) to Edwards AFB where Bridge also flew it. It was horribly underpowered and could barely exceed Mach 1 in a dive, but it sure as hell looked fast.

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