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Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion

Old Apr 22, 13, 1:11 am
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Originally Posted by jlemon View Post
Curious to know which airline is currently flying the BZZ-ASI-MPN route and with what type of equipment. Also, do these flights still receive a fighter escort inbound to Mount Pleasant?
Currently flown by Hi Fly, a Portugese charter carrier, using an A340-300 in a totally all-white livery, which was originally a Gulf Air aircraft.

I believe the fighter escort still happens. It provides the only regular chance for the Typhoons at Mount Pleasant to perform a practice intercept. Bear in mind that, despite being a civilian charter, these are officially RAF flights and therefore form part of their overall operation.

There's a Trip Report here on FT from a few months ago

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Old Apr 22, 13, 7:40 am
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Originally Posted by WHBM View Post
Currently flown by Hi Fly, a Portugese charter carrier, using an A340-300 in a totally all-white livery, which was originally a Gulf Air aircraft.

I believe the fighter escort still happens. It provides the only regular chance for the Typhoons at Mount Pleasant to perform a practice intercept. Bear in mind that, despite being a civilian charter, these are officially RAF flights and therefore form part of their overall operation.

There's a Trip Report here on FT from a few months ago

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-...air-force.html
Thanks again, WHBM, for the additional info and the link to TR! I assume that Hi Fly uses the RR code for its services.....

I also believe that Air Tahiti Nui (of all carriers!) flew the BZZ-ASI-MPN route at one point via the MOD contract with an A340.....

So how does this trip sound? LFT-DFW (via AA Eagle), DFW-LHR (via BA First), BZZ-ASI-MPN (via Hi Fly), MPN-PUQ-PMC-SCL (via LAN) and then back home to LFT from SCL via DFW on AA and AA Eagle....with stopovers in London, the Falklands and Chile. Perhaps one of these days, folks!
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Old Apr 23, 13, 12:12 pm
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Some interesting chatting about flights of yesteryear going on here:
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Old Apr 25, 13, 9:33 am
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Originally Posted by jlemon View Post
Good Morning All!


The first set of quiz items all have a time line of the Fall of 1993:

8) Only one air carrier was flying between New York (JFK) and Panama City, Panama (PTY). The service was operated twice a week from JFK to PTY and was not nonstop as an intermediate destination was served. Identify the airline, the equipment type operated and the intermediate stop. ANSWERED

11) Pointe a Pitre, Guadeloupe (PTP) had weekly nonstop service from both Bordeaux (BOD) and Marseille (MRS) at this time. Different airlines flew each route with different aircraft types. Name both airlines and the aircraft they operated on the route. ANSWERED

13) Two (2) airlines were operating nonstop between Auckland (AKL) and Perth (PER). Qantas (QF) was not directly operating any of these flights but was instead code sharing with another air carrier that actually operated the service. Name both airlines, the aircraft types they flew on the route and the QF code share partner. ANSWERED

14) No less than six (6) airlines were operating nonstop between Dubai (DXB) and London Heathrow (LHR) at this time. Only one of the air carriers operated Boeing 747 equipment on this particular route. Identify all six airlines and also name the only air carrier that was operating the B747 on the route. And for bonus points, name the respective aircraft types flown by the other five airlines on the DXB-LHR route. ANSWERED

The following quiz items have a time line of the late Winter of early 2007:

16) Only one air carrier was flying nonstop on a daily basis between Miami (MIA) and Cozumel (CZM) at this time. Identify the airline and the equipment it operated on the route. ANSWERED

18) This air carrier was operating direct, one stop, no change of plane service from Providenciales, Turks & Caicos Islands (PLS) to London Heathrow (LHR) on a weekly basis. Identify the airline, the equipment flown on the route and the intermediate stop. ANSWERED

Cheers Everyone!

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Old Apr 25, 13, 9:57 pm
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Feel free to chime in on this thread, esp. Seat2A

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Old Apr 26, 13, 6:25 pm
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Originally Posted by jlemon View Post
8) Only one air carrier was flying between New York (JFK) and Panama City, Panama (PTY). The service was operated twice a week from JFK to PTY and was not nonstop as an intermediate destination was served. Identify the airline, the equipment type operated and the intermediate stop.
I hate to see these questions unanswered, so I'll make some wild tries: For #8, I'll try PanAm with an intermediate stop in MIA. Equipment may have been an AB3.

11) Pointe a Pitre, Guadeloupe (PTP) had weekly nonstop service from both Bordeaux (BOD) and Marseille (MRS) at this time. Different airlines flew each route with different aircraft types. Name both airlines and the aircraft they operated on the route.
I thought Air France, using a 747, flew both routes, but I'll put it down for MRS-PTP. On the BOD-PTP route, I'll try AOM French Airlines with a DC-10.
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Old Apr 27, 13, 7:44 am
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Originally Posted by miniliq View Post
I hate to see these questions unanswered, so I'll make some wild tries: For #8, I'll try PanAm with an intermediate stop in MIA. Equipment may have been an AB3.



I thought Air France, using a 747, flew both routes, but I'll put it down for MRS-PTP. On the BOD-PTP route, I'll try AOM French Airlines with a DC-10.
8) Well, the intermediate stop is correct as it was indeed MIA! However, the airline was actually Empresa Ecuatoriana de Aviacion a.k.a. Ecuatoriana.

Here's the southbound schedule.....

EU 051: JFK-MIA-PTY-UIO Op: Thursdays & Sundays only Equip: DC-10 with first and coach

11) Excellent guesses! However, the answers are a bit different.

First, the quiz item stated "nonstop service" on the Bordeaux-Pointe a Pitre and Marseille-Pointe a Pitre routes. AF indeed listed a one stop flight on the BOD-PTP route but one had to change aircraft at ORY. Equipment was a B727-200 BOD-ORY and a B747-300 ORY-PTP.

On the other hand, the following airline flew nonstop......

VD 971: ORY-BOD-PTP Op: Thursdays only Equip: A300 in an all coach configuration

VD is (or was) Air Liberte. And yes, that is an interesting two letter airline code (I won't make any French jokes here)!

And as for the other route from Marseille to PTP?

IW 433: ORY-MRS-PTP Op: Thursdays only Equip: DC-10 with business (J) and coach

IW is (or was) AOM French Airlines.
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Old Apr 28, 13, 4:24 pm
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Originally Posted by jlemon View Post
Good Afternoon All!

The yard work is complete, more or less (at least for the moment), so let's return to The Quiz......

The first two quiz items both have a time line of the Fall of 1993:

13) Two (2) airlines were operating nonstop between Auckland (AKL) and Perth (PER). Qantas (QF) was not directly operating any of these flights but was instead code sharing with another air carrier that actually operated the service. Name both airlines, the aircraft types they flew on the route and the QF code share partner.

14) No less than six (6) airlines were operating nonstop between Dubai (DXB) and London Heathrow (LHR) at this time. Only one of the air carriers operated Boeing 747 equipment. Identify all six airlines and also name the only air carrier that was operating the B747 on the route. And for bonus points, name the respective aircraft types flown by the other five airlines on the DXB-LHR route.

The following two quiz items both have a time line of the late Winter of early 2007:

16) Only one air carrier was flying nonstop on a daily basis between Miami (MIA) and Cozumel (CZM) at this time. Identify the airline and the equipment it operated on the route.

18) This air carrier was operating direct, one stop, no change of plane service from Providenciales, Turks & Caicos Islands (PLS) to London Heathrow (LHR) on a weekly basis. Identify the airline, the equipment flown on the route and the intermediate stop.

Cheers Everyone!
Time to close out the remaining questions, I think.....

13) British Airways and Air New Zealand. Here are the westbound schedules.....

BA 010: AKL-PER-BKK-LHR Op: Wednesdays only Equip: B747-400

BA 012: AKL-PER-SIN-LHR Op: Fridays only Equip: B747-400

NZ 113: AKL-PER Op: Wednesdays & Fridays only Equip: B767-200

Qantas was code sharing with Air New Zealand at this time. NZ 113 also operated as QF* 374.

14) The following six (6) airlines were operating nonstop between Dubai (DXB) and London Heathrow (LHR) with the respective equipment types operated on the route identified by their OAG aircraft codes:

British Airways (BA) - 767

Royal Brunei Airlines (BI) - 767

Biman Bangladesh (BG) - D10

Emirates Airlines (EK) - AB3 (EK was also operating DXB-LGW at this time with AB3 & 310 equipment)

Pakistan International Airlines (PK) - 747 & 74M

Airlanka (UL) - L10

16) American Eagle operating an ATR-72. Yes, AA Eagle was flying this 557 mile nonstop route between Miami (MIA) and Cozumel (CZM) with a turboprop. At the same time, American was operating B737-800 aircraft on the DFW-CZM nonstop route on a daily basis.

18) British Airways with a B767. Routing for BA 252 was PLS-NAS-LHR which was flown once a week on Sundays.

Hope everyone has a great week!

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Old Apr 29, 13, 5:24 am
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Originally Posted by jlemon View Post
11) Excellent guesses! ...... the quiz item stated "nonstop service" on the Bordeaux-Pointe a Pitre and Marseille-Pointe a Pitre routes. AF indeed listed a one stop flight on the BOD-PTP route but one had to change aircraft at ORY. Equipment was a B727-200 BOD-ORY and a B747-300 ORY-PTP.

On the other hand, the following airline flew nonstop......

VD 971: ORY-BOD-PTP Op: Thursdays only Equip: A300 in an all coach configuration

VD is (or was) Air Liberte. And yes, that is an interesting two letter airline code (I won't make any French jokes here)!

And as for the other route from Marseille to PTP?

IW 433: ORY-MRS-PTP Op: Thursdays only Equip: DC-10 with business (J) and coach

IW is (or was) AOM French Airlines.
These are interesting routes. Martinique and Guadeloupe are two French islands in the Caribbean, fully part of France (and thus the EU), with the Euro as currency, etc. These routes from France to them are thus regarded as EU domestic flights and regularly distort the statistics presented by these, or lay in wait for airline quiz questions about "EU domestic flights operated by widebodies " ! They have always had an intensive operation by both Air France and the various French independent carriers (as covered here) which seem to come and go over time with little long-term continuity. A quick look for today alone shows nine scheduled widebody flights from Paris to them. These flights unusually, for long-distance flights, still operate from Orly airport in Paris rather than CDG, as they are still seen as domestic, and Air France use a subfleet of their 777-300ER with very high density almost-all economy seating to match the independent holiday operators.

Both Air Liberte and AOM, desribed here in the 1990s, are no longer with us, they were quasi-charter, holiday flight operators. Air Liberte was actually bought up by British Airways in 1997, and the fleet repainted in a variant of the BA livery of the times, the iconic "world tails" livery. BA lost much money on this, so wisely sold them off to Swissair a few years later, who also bought up similarly-lossmaking AOM, merged them, and found they now had two big lossmakers. It all finally collapsed around 2003. Nevertheless, there are always further obscure French independent operators willing to have a go at these high-density routes, so new ones emerged.

Martinique and Guadeloupe are surely unique among Caribbean islands with a huge flight operation from Paris and very little from Miami or other US points. If you don't speak French they are as much of a challenge as going to the non-tourist suburbs of Paris.
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Old Apr 29, 13, 5:43 am
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operating nonstop between Dubai (DXB) and London Heathrow (LHR) ........Biman Bangladesh (BG) - D10.......
We did my "last Caravelle seen flying" a little while ago, so I'll just add my last comparable DC10 (passenger flight anyway) to this. It was only a few years ago, walking along the River Thames Embankment one summer evening, that the Biman DC10, inbound from Dhaka and Dubai, drifted overhead us, turning for Heathrow. Made you realise how far back the DC10s wings were set. It was a few hours late, which was actually quite good for Biman, who were long-renowned for turning up in London 24 hours late or more, to the extent that Heathrow started moves to exclude them on the grounds of the disruption so caused, and the UK government had to intervene as it started to become a diplomatic issue of Rich Country against Poor Country.
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Old May 1, 13, 9:14 pm
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Howdy gang!

I just got my laptop back from repair on the road in San Diego. I'm still in the midst of qualifying for both Alaska 75K and United 1K at the same time. This particular jaunt has me covering 104000 miles since I left home in early April. Just 21000 more to go before I'm back in Alaska on May 9th.

As to questions, here are a couple related to United Airlines:

1. What is the name of the song which United Airlines has been using in its advertisements for the past twenty or so years? Who wrote it?

2. This one's definitely for the old timers: What was the song that always played aboard United's standard DC-8s while taxiing into the gate during the late 1960s and early 1970s. I flew a lot of those 8s. It was always the same song...

Now I know you could just Google the following airline slogans and answer correctly, but what would be the fun in that?
Test your memory! Complete or identify the following airline slogans and name the airline that used it:

3. When you’ve got it, ________________________. Which Airline?

4. Live today. Tomorrow ______________________. Which Airline?

5. Up Up & Away With ________________________. Which Airline?

6. We Better Be Better, We're __________________. Which Airline?

7. Good People Make Our Airline Great! ~ Which Airline?

8. Being the Best isn't Everything, It's the Only Thing. ~ Which Airline?

9. Go-Getters go ____________________________. Which Airline?

10. We have to earn our wings every day. ~ Which Airline?

11. We Make Flying Easy ~ Which Airline?

12. The Up and Coming Airline ~ Which Airline?

13. Nobody's Second Class On __________________. Which Airline?

14. We fly the world the way the world wants to fly. ~ Which Airline?

15. The Best Care In The Air ~ Which Airline?

16. Number One To The Sun ~ Which Airline?

17. You get three feet for your two legs. ~ Which Airline?

18. Everything's better up here ~ Which Airline?

19. Your airline has arrived ~ Which Airline?

20. America's Favorite Way To Fly ~ Which Airline?

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Old May 2, 13, 7:46 am
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1. What is the name of the song which United Airlines has been using in its advertisements for the past twenty or so years? Who wrote it?
Rhapsody in Blue by George Gershwin and to be picky it's not a song.
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Old May 2, 13, 7:49 am
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A View Post

1. What is the name of the song which United Airlines has been using in its advertisements for the past twenty or so years? Who wrote it?

5. Up Up & Away With ________________________. Which Airline?

15. The Best Care In The Air ~ Which Airline?
I'll kick this off.....

1. "Rhapsody in Blue" by George Gershwin. I've always really liked Gershwin's music.....

5. Up Up & Away with TWA

15. Midwest Express (which was later renamed Midwest)
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Old May 2, 13, 7:54 am
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3. When you’ve got it, ________________________. Which Airline?
Flaunt it. Braniff. Salvador Dali and Whitey Ford, how can you go wrong

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13. Nobody's Second Class On __________________. Which Airline?
MGM?
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Old May 2, 13, 1:19 pm
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9. Go-Getters go ____________________________. Which Airline?

10. We have to earn our wings every day. ~ Which Airline?
9. -- Ozark

10. -- Eastern

I'm also back home, and although I can't match Seat 2A's MRs, the past two weekends have been fun: -- weekend of 4/19 I had booked 9 domestic UA segments, but because of weather delays/cancellations in the midwest I only flew 3 of them as originally booked, only got to spend five hours in SJU instead of 24, and did unplanned overnights in MIA and IAH (without my luggage).
-- the weekend of 4/27 I accomplished all 10 UA segments (including 4 international) as booked. My quiz question is that at my furthest destination I planned to travel over 100 mph, but not in a plane. Where was I? (I know it's not much of a clue, but anything else might give it away.)
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