Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
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Air Mauritius MK 745 Bombay (BOM) 345a-815a Mauritius (MRU) Fr A300B
Air Mauritius MK 845 Mauritius (MRU) 945a-1145a Durban (DUR) Fr 747SP
Air Mauritius MK 845 Mauritius (MRU) 945a-1145a Durban (DUR) Fr 747SP
Up to 10 years before the question, Air Mauritius had a lengthy arrangement with, instead of SAA, the charter arm of BA, British Airtours, who didn't normally do this sort of thing, but must have lasted for 7 years or more, from the 1970s into the 1980s. One of their onetime BOAC 707s would be painted up in full Air Mauritius colours for the year, it turned up weekly at London Heathrow with a couple of days turnround, would be ferried across to Gatwick for any maintenance, and very regularly then got sent out for a holiday flight or two to Palma, Athens, or wherever.
May 29, 2022, 12:11 pm
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30. (1987) Back in the Good Old Days, Air Jamaica used to fly a one stop DC-8 from Montego Bay to Chicago. The First Class cabin had a lounge up front and the service was first rate. Alas, JM no longer serves Chicago but at least there’s a different airline that offers the only direct flight between MBJ and ORD. An enroute stop is made, along with a “change of gauge” on aircraft. Identify the airline, the enroute stop and the two aircraft types involved.
See post 25926 It wasn't KX
So let's go with Northwest operating a DC-9-30 with a stop in Grand Cayman with this flight then departing to Memphis where the change of gauge was made to a 757-200 for the continuing service to Chicago O'Hare.
May 29, 2022, 12:24 pm
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30. (1987) Back in the Good Old Days, Air Jamaica used to fly a one stop DC-8 from Montego Bay to Chicago. The First Class cabin had a lounge up front and the service was first rate. Alas, JM no longer serves Chicago but at least there’s a different airline that offers the only direct flight between MBJ and ORD. An enroute stop is made, along with a “change of gauge” on aircraft. Identify the airline, the enroute stop and the two aircraft types involved.
… It wasn't KX or EA
And a 72S is part of the answer; other things eliminated are ATL or GCM as connecting points, and an A300 (and presumably a 734) as equipment. I seriously doubt this is correct but I’ll toss it out there anyway: American via their newly-established hub at Raleigh/Durham (RDU), a 757 in from MBJ and a 72S out to ORD
AA via RDU is an excellent and most rational guess but alas... neither is correct. Additionally, no 757s were identified nor harmed in the formulation of this question.
We are looking for a US based carrier...
26. (1986) You’ve enjoyed a wonderful vacation on idyllic Curacao, but now it’s time to get back to work at company headquarters in Santiago, Chile. Thankfully, one airline can get you all the way home, albeit with an overnight stop at the connection city which will allow you to have dinner with a former colleague. The first flight will make one enroute stop. The next morning you’ll fly nonstop to Santiago. The same aircraft type will be used on both flights. Identify the airline, the routing and the single aircraft type.
It's Avianca via Bogota. We need the enroute stop CUR-XXX-BOG
Let me try to tap this in with Barranquilla/BAQ
Get In The Hole! What a silly thing to bellow at golf tournaments but that's effectively what you've done here. Good putt!
Avianca AV 091 Curacao (CUR) 610p-610p Barranquilla (BRQ) 645p-800p Bogota (BOG) 707-320 Tu Fr
Avianca AV 081 Bogota (BOG) 930a-500p Santiago (SCL) 707-320 We
… It wasn't KX or EA
And a 72S is part of the answer; other things eliminated are ATL or GCM as connecting points, and an A300 (and presumably a 734) as equipment. I seriously doubt this is correct but I’ll toss it out there anyway: American via their newly-established hub at Raleigh/Durham (RDU), a 757 in from MBJ and a 72S out to ORD
AA via RDU is an excellent and most rational guess but alas... neither is correct. Additionally, no 757s were identified nor harmed in the formulation of this question.
We are looking for a US based carrier...
26. (1986) You’ve enjoyed a wonderful vacation on idyllic Curacao, but now it’s time to get back to work at company headquarters in Santiago, Chile. Thankfully, one airline can get you all the way home, albeit with an overnight stop at the connection city which will allow you to have dinner with a former colleague. The first flight will make one enroute stop. The next morning you’ll fly nonstop to Santiago. The same aircraft type will be used on both flights. Identify the airline, the routing and the single aircraft type.
It's Avianca via Bogota. We need the enroute stop CUR-XXX-BOG
Let me try to tap this in with Barranquilla/BAQ
Get In The Hole! What a silly thing to bellow at golf tournaments but that's effectively what you've done here. Good putt!
Avianca AV 091 Curacao (CUR) 610p-610p Barranquilla (BRQ) 645p-800p Bogota (BOG) 707-320 Tu Fr
Avianca AV 081 Bogota (BOG) 930a-500p Santiago (SCL) 707-320 We
May 29, 2022, 12:33 pm
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30. (1987) Back in the Good Old Days, Air Jamaica used to fly a one stop DC-8 from Montego Bay to Chicago. The First Class cabin had a lounge up front and the service was first rate. Alas, JM no longer serves Chicago but at least there’s a different airline that offers the only direct flight between MBJ and ORD. An enroute stop is made, along with a “change of gauge” on aircraft. Identify the airline, the enroute stop and the two aircraft types involved.
See post 25926 It wasn't KX
I'm a bit confused here as I'm unsure whether the aircraft change of gauge was made at an airport following the enroute stop. Thus, I'll assume there was a stop made by the flight departing from Montego Bay prior to the change of gauge with this perhaps occurring at a hub operated by the air carrier in question.
Note the highlighted area. "An" denotes a single enroute stop and thus where the CoG occurred.
So let's go with Northwest operating a DC-9-30 with a stop in Grand Cayman with this flight then departing to Memphis where the change of gauge was made to a 757-200 for the continuing service to Chicago O'Hare.
Northwest is correct, Grand Cayman is not. The DC-9-30 is correct. A 757 is not, especially as we've previously identified a 72S as being involved. Memphis is correct. So if only by default, let's close this one out with the itinerary:
Northwest NW 476 Montego Bay (MBJ) 130p-459p Memphis (MEM) DC-9-30 Tu Sa
Northwest NW 476 Memphis (MEM) 750p-914p Chicago (ORD) 727-200 Sa
See post 25926 It wasn't KX
I'm a bit confused here as I'm unsure whether the aircraft change of gauge was made at an airport following the enroute stop. Thus, I'll assume there was a stop made by the flight departing from Montego Bay prior to the change of gauge with this perhaps occurring at a hub operated by the air carrier in question.
Note the highlighted area. "An" denotes a single enroute stop and thus where the CoG occurred.
So let's go with Northwest operating a DC-9-30 with a stop in Grand Cayman with this flight then departing to Memphis where the change of gauge was made to a 757-200 for the continuing service to Chicago O'Hare.
Northwest is correct, Grand Cayman is not. The DC-9-30 is correct. A 757 is not, especially as we've previously identified a 72S as being involved. Memphis is correct. So if only by default, let's close this one out with the itinerary:
Northwest NW 476 Montego Bay (MBJ) 130p-459p Memphis (MEM) DC-9-30 Tu Sa
Northwest NW 476 Memphis (MEM) 750p-914p Chicago (ORD) 727-200 Sa
May 29, 2022, 12:38 pm
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11. (1993) From one side of the country to the other - You’re traveling from Vancouver, BC to Halifax, NS. Your first flight will be nonstop, after which you’ll connect to a one-stopper to Halifax. Two small twinjets of different manufacture will be employed and you’ll be fed breakfast, lunch and dinner along the way. Please identify the two airlines, the two enroute stops and the two equipment types.
AC D9S YVR-YEG We need the mystery airline YEG-YWG-YYZ-YHZ 737-200
31. (1973) As of January 1973, what is the longest flight in North America operated by a turboprop airliner? Airline, route and aircraft please.
It's a Reeve Aleutian Electra. The flight does not include Seattle or Kodiak
32. (1986) You’re relaxing at a golf resort outside Bangkok when you get a call from the home office. You need to get over to Lagos, Nigeria ASAP. Lagos? Lagos?! How many connections and airlines is that gonna take?! Thankfully, a local travel agent has found you a most convenient itinerary, all on one airline and involving just a single convenient connection. Thankfully you won’t have to make your connection all the way up and over in Europe. However, both your first flight to the connection point and your second flight to Lagos will involve an enroute stop. Identify the airline, the complete routing including connection point and enroute stops along with the two aircraft types involved.
33. (1992) Your business takes you fairly regularly between New York and Manila. Normally you make the trip in two flights via the nonstop to Honolulu and then on to Manila. Alas, the Honolulu flight is completely sold out on the day you need to travel. Thankfully, your travel agent has found another option, also involving just two nonstop flights, both aboard the same airline all the way through. A single aircraft type is employed on both flights. Identify the airline, the connection airport and the aircraft type.
A N S W E R E D
AC D9S YVR-YEG We need the mystery airline YEG-YWG-YYZ-YHZ 737-200
31. (1973) As of January 1973, what is the longest flight in North America operated by a turboprop airliner? Airline, route and aircraft please.
It's a Reeve Aleutian Electra. The flight does not include Seattle or Kodiak
32. (1986) You’re relaxing at a golf resort outside Bangkok when you get a call from the home office. You need to get over to Lagos, Nigeria ASAP. Lagos? Lagos?! How many connections and airlines is that gonna take?! Thankfully, a local travel agent has found you a most convenient itinerary, all on one airline and involving just a single convenient connection. Thankfully you won’t have to make your connection all the way up and over in Europe. However, both your first flight to the connection point and your second flight to Lagos will involve an enroute stop. Identify the airline, the complete routing including connection point and enroute stops along with the two aircraft types involved.
33. (1992) Your business takes you fairly regularly between New York and Manila. Normally you make the trip in two flights via the nonstop to Honolulu and then on to Manila. Alas, the Honolulu flight is completely sold out on the day you need to travel. Thankfully, your travel agent has found another option, also involving just two nonstop flights, both aboard the same airline all the way through. A single aircraft type is employed on both flights. Identify the airline, the connection airport and the aircraft type.
A N S W E R E D
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33. (1992) Your business takes you fairly regularly between New York and Manila. Normally you make the trip in two flights via the nonstop to Honolulu and then on to Manila. Alas, the Honolulu flight is completely sold out on the day you need to travel. Thankfully, your travel agent has found another option, also involving just two nonstop flights, both aboard the same airline all the way through. A single aircraft type is employed on both flights. Identify the airline, the connection airport and the aircraft type.
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33. (1992) Your business takes you fairly regularly between New York and Manila. Normally you make the trip in two flights via the nonstop to Honolulu and then on to Manila. Alas, the Honolulu flight is completely sold out on the day you need to travel. Thankfully, your travel agent has found another option, also involving just two nonstop flights, both aboard the same airline all the way through. A single aircraft type is employed on both flights. Identify the airline, the connection airport and the aircraft type.
May 30, 2022, 2:55 pm
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31. (1973) As of January 1973, what is the longest flight in North America operated by a turboprop airliner? Airline, route and aircraft please.
Reeve Aleutian Electra, Seattle to Kodiak ?
You've got the correct airline and aircraft. We're looking for a different city pair though. Given that it's Reeve, this should be a lot easier...
Reeve Aleutian Electra, Seattle to Kodiak ?
You've got the correct airline and aircraft. We're looking for a different city pair though. Given that it's Reeve, this should be a lot easier...
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33. (1992) Your business takes you fairly regularly between New York and Manila. Normally you make the trip in two flights via the nonstop to Honolulu and then on to Manila. Alas, the Honolulu flight is completely sold out on the day you need to travel. Thankfully, your travel agent has found another option, also involving just two nonstop flights, both aboard the same airline all the way through. A single aircraft type is employed on both flights. Identify the airline, the connection airport and the aircraft type.
Saudia, with a 747-300 (they had lots of these but didn't go for the -400) operating JFK-Jeddah, then Jeddah-Manila.
May 30, 2022, 3:04 pm
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33. (1992) Your business takes you fairly regularly between New York and Manila. Normally you make the trip in two flights via the nonstop to Honolulu and then on to Manila. Alas, the Honolulu flight is completely sold out on the day you need to travel. Thankfully, your travel agent has found another option, also involving just two nonstop flights, both aboard the same airline all the way through. A single aircraft type is employed on both flights. Identify the airline, the connection airport and the aircraft type.
Opening the bidding with Japan Air Lines, operating a pair of 747-446s to and from Tokyo Narita/NRT
JAL does fly the JFK-NRT route with a 747-400 but employs a DC-10-40 down to Manila. Please, guess again!
Opening the bidding with Japan Air Lines, operating a pair of 747-446s to and from Tokyo Narita/NRT
JAL does fly the JFK-NRT route with a 747-400 but employs a DC-10-40 down to Manila. Please, guess again!
May 30, 2022, 3:13 pm
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33. (1992) Your business takes you fairly regularly between New York and Manila. Normally you make the trip in two flights via the nonstop to Honolulu and then on to Manila. Alas, the Honolulu flight is completely sold out on the day you need to travel. Thankfully, your travel agent has found another option, also involving just two nonstop flights, both aboard the same airline all the way through. A single aircraft type is employed on both flights. Identify the airline, the connection airport and the aircraft type.
I'll guess this was United departing from New York JFK via Tokyo Narita with B747-400 aircraft operated on both legs.
A most reasonable guess and yet, no. UA ran a 747SP JFK-NRT followed by a 2 stopper 747 down to Manila (UA 827 NRT-SEL-TPE-MNL)
Please, guess again!
I'll guess this was United departing from New York JFK via Tokyo Narita with B747-400 aircraft operated on both legs.
A most reasonable guess and yet, no. UA ran a 747SP JFK-NRT followed by a 2 stopper 747 down to Manila (UA 827 NRT-SEL-TPE-MNL)
Please, guess again!
May 30, 2022, 3:18 pm
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Air Mauritius MK 745 Bombay (BOM) 345a-815a Mauritius (MRU) Fr A300B
Air Mauritius MK 845 Mauritius (MRU) 945a-1145a Durban (DUR) Fr 747SP
Could these aircraft actually be the other way round ? Bombay to Mauritius is 6.5 hours, wholly over open ocean, and I would think be beyond an SAA A300B4.
They are indeed. Good call, Mr. M
Air Mauritius MK 745 Bombay (BOM) 345a-815a Mauritius (MRU) Fr 747SP 2920 Miles
Air Mauritius MK 845 Mauritius (MRU) 945a-1145a Durban (DUR) Fr A300B 1720 Miles
33. (1992) Your business takes you fairly regularly between New York and Manila. Normally you make the trip in two flights via the nonstop to Honolulu and then on to Manila. Alas, the Honolulu flight is completely sold out on the day you need to travel. Thankfully, your travel agent has found another option, also involving just two nonstop flights, both aboard the same airline all the way through. A single aircraft type is employed on both flights. Identify the airline, the connection airport and the aircraft type.
I may as well jump in with a silly one ...
Saudia, with a 747-300 (they had lots of these but didn't go for the -400) operating JFK-Jeddah, then Jeddah-Manila.
Seemingly silly, perhaps, but spot on, Sir! Saudia via Jeddah it was!
Saudia SV 020 New York (JFK) 900p-420p Jeddah (JDD) 747-300 Tu
Saudia SV 390 Jeddah (JDD) 730p-1015a Manila (MNL) 747-300 We Su
Air Mauritius MK 845 Mauritius (MRU) 945a-1145a Durban (DUR) Fr 747SP
Could these aircraft actually be the other way round ? Bombay to Mauritius is 6.5 hours, wholly over open ocean, and I would think be beyond an SAA A300B4.
They are indeed. Good call, Mr. M
Air Mauritius MK 745 Bombay (BOM) 345a-815a Mauritius (MRU) Fr 747SP 2920 Miles
Air Mauritius MK 845 Mauritius (MRU) 945a-1145a Durban (DUR) Fr A300B 1720 Miles
33. (1992) Your business takes you fairly regularly between New York and Manila. Normally you make the trip in two flights via the nonstop to Honolulu and then on to Manila. Alas, the Honolulu flight is completely sold out on the day you need to travel. Thankfully, your travel agent has found another option, also involving just two nonstop flights, both aboard the same airline all the way through. A single aircraft type is employed on both flights. Identify the airline, the connection airport and the aircraft type.
I may as well jump in with a silly one ...
Saudia, with a 747-300 (they had lots of these but didn't go for the -400) operating JFK-Jeddah, then Jeddah-Manila.
Seemingly silly, perhaps, but spot on, Sir! Saudia via Jeddah it was!
Saudia SV 020 New York (JFK) 900p-420p Jeddah (JDD) 747-300 Tu
Saudia SV 390 Jeddah (JDD) 730p-1015a Manila (MNL) 747-300 We Su
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11. (1993) From one side of the country to the other - You’re traveling from Vancouver, BC to Halifax, NS. Your first flight will be nonstop, after which you’ll connect to a one-stopper to Halifax. Two small twinjets of different manufacture will be employed and you’ll be fed breakfast, lunch and dinner along the way. Please identify the two airlines, the two enroute stops and the two equipment types.
AC D9S YVR-YEG We need the mystery airline YEG-YWG-YYZ-YHZ 737-200
31. (1973) As of January 1973, what is the longest flight in North America operated by a turboprop airliner? Airline, route and aircraft please.
It's a Reeve Aleutian Electra. The flight does not include Seattle or Kodiak
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32. (1986) You’re relaxing at a golf resort outside Bangkok when you get a call from the home office. You need to get over to Lagos, Nigeria ASAP. Lagos? Lagos?! How many connections and airlines is that gonna take?! Thankfully, a local travel agent has found you a most convenient itinerary, all on one airline and involving just a single convenient connection. Thankfully you won’t have to make your connection all the way up and over in Europe. However, both your first flight to the connection point and your second flight to Lagos will involve an enroute stop. Identify the airline, the complete routing including connection point and enroute stops along with the two aircraft types involved.
A N S W E R E D
34. (1987) You love flying First Class and you love being served a nice meal inflight. As such, you couldn’t be happier to be booked upon a four stop flight between Washington DC and Las Vegas upon which you’ll be served two lunches and a dinner enroute. Identify the airline, the four enroute stops and the aircraft type.
35. (1973) You’re off to Chicago next week - the first time you’ve flown anywhere in three years. From your home in New Haven, Connecticut you’ve booked a convenient online connection involving two flights - the first nonstop to the connection airport followed by a one-stopper into Chicago. Both flights will be operated with the same equipment type. We’re looking for all the usual stuff here. Don’t forget to identify the enroute stopover on the flight into Chicago.
A N S W E R E D
AC D9S YVR-YEG We need the mystery airline YEG-YWG-YYZ-YHZ 737-200
31. (1973) As of January 1973, what is the longest flight in North America operated by a turboprop airliner? Airline, route and aircraft please.
It's a Reeve Aleutian Electra. The flight does not include Seattle or Kodiak
A N S W E R E D
32. (1986) You’re relaxing at a golf resort outside Bangkok when you get a call from the home office. You need to get over to Lagos, Nigeria ASAP. Lagos? Lagos?! How many connections and airlines is that gonna take?! Thankfully, a local travel agent has found you a most convenient itinerary, all on one airline and involving just a single convenient connection. Thankfully you won’t have to make your connection all the way up and over in Europe. However, both your first flight to the connection point and your second flight to Lagos will involve an enroute stop. Identify the airline, the complete routing including connection point and enroute stops along with the two aircraft types involved.
A N S W E R E D
34. (1987) You love flying First Class and you love being served a nice meal inflight. As such, you couldn’t be happier to be booked upon a four stop flight between Washington DC and Las Vegas upon which you’ll be served two lunches and a dinner enroute. Identify the airline, the four enroute stops and the aircraft type.
35. (1973) You’re off to Chicago next week - the first time you’ve flown anywhere in three years. From your home in New Haven, Connecticut you’ve booked a convenient online connection involving two flights - the first nonstop to the connection airport followed by a one-stopper into Chicago. Both flights will be operated with the same equipment type. We’re looking for all the usual stuff here. Don’t forget to identify the enroute stopover on the flight into Chicago.
A N S W E R E D
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