jrl767

FlightAware says VS3 landed at 1051EDT (having flown 3510 miles) and BA1 at 1100EDT (having flown 3593 miles)

jlemon

This event was covered this evening on BBC World News America here on our side of the pond with Sean Doyle, Chairman & CEO of BA, being interviewed at JFK after arriving on BA 001. It was a very nice report with video of BA flight crew and cabin staff on hand to greet the passengers arriving from Heathrow.

I also received a personalized e-mail today from Mr. Doyle (along with probably every other BA Executive Club member in the world) noting the resumption of transatlantic service between the UK and US.....and in his statement he even made the comment "alongside our friends at Virgin Atlantic".

Definitely a far cry from when Sir Richard had "No Way BA/AA" displayed on Virgin Atlantic aircraft back in the day!

jrl767

yep, I received the same email

WHBM

But not over here ... !

MADPhil

Given that the point was that Brits could now travel to the US you would think that BA would be bombarding any UK resident BAEC member who has ever travelled to the US. Perhaps they are more subtly encouraging US residents to demand that their UK resident friends and family come and visit.

jrl767

tornado warnings in Kitsap County on the Olympic Peninsula over the last half hour


these questions are still extant:

1989A- You’re in Bahrain, looking forward to a 10pm show in a Frankfurt jazz club on a Saturday evening. The 10am nonstop is unfortunately sold out, but you’ve managed to find two viable connecting itineraries; however, equally unfortunately, they’re both entirely on narrow-body jets.

The earlier departure makes two stops en route to the connecting airport, has a 2+25 layover, and arrives at 720pm. The later option involves a pair of nonstop flights; it has a 4+30 layover and a less-than-direct routing, but it arrives 20 minutes earlier. On each itinerary, both the short and long legs feature different a aircraft and airline.

Please identify all the relevant info (airlines, equipment types, and all transit and connecting airports) for each of the four flights. One bonus point for the info for the nonstop.

1989B- The following Saturday afternoon, you’re off to Fiji on an itinerary that features a one-stop and a nonstop flight with a 3+10 connection between. Both flights are aboard the same type of aircraft, in the colors of two different airlines. Please identify the aircraft, both airlines, the connecting airport, and the intermediate stop
ANSWERED

1989C- Early Saturday morning a crisis at the Fiji client site throws your schedule into turmoil. Luckily you and your team are able to resolve matters by dinnertime, and you’ll leave FRA on Sunday afternoon.

Your new itinerary has an 8+35 connection, during which time you’ll have an afternoon meeting with a specialist consultant before continuing on to NAN. Again, you’ll be on a one-stop and a nonstop flight; one airline and aircraft are the same as the original Saturday sequence. Please identify the relevant airlines and jets, as well as the intermediate stop and the connection point.

• one airline is either Air New Zealand or Qantas, operating a 747-100/200
• the other airline is not Air Lanka or Air Pacific, and the aircraft is not a 747 of any variety
• the routing does not involve BAH, CMB, SIN, or SYD

jlemon

Or perhaps the BA marketing folks simply did not want to mention Virgin Atlantic in an e-mail from their Chairman & CEO to their resident BAEC members in the UK.....

YVR Cockroach

I'll offer TE/NZ FRA-LAX with the 747 connecting to a Continental DC-10-30 flying via HNL

jrl767

Seat 2A has already identified FRA-LAX-HNL-NAN (TE/NZ connecting to QF); that was actually the answer to 1989B

jrl767

more hints

1989A- You’re in Bahrain, looking forward to a 10pm show in a Frankfurt jazz club on a Saturday evening. The 10am nonstop is unfortunately sold out, but you’ve managed to find two viable connecting itineraries; however, equally unfortunately, they’re both entirely on narrow-body jets.

The earlier departure makes two stops en route to the connecting airport, has a 2+25 layover, and arrives at 720pm. The later option involves a pair of nonstop flights; it has a 4+30 layover and a less-than-direct routing, but it arrives 20 minutes earlier. On each itinerary, both the short and long legs feature a different aircraft and airline.

Please identify all the relevant info (airlines, equipment types, and all transit and connecting airports) for each of the four flights. One bonus point for the info for the nonstop.

• Option 1: the longest leg on the first flight covers ~50% more distance than the connecting flight
• Option 2: the long leg features an airline that has been the answer to exactly *one* Quiz question; some of the discussion around that time revealed that the particular aircraft configuration was equally unique, though not enough to warrant a distinct OAG designator

ANSWERED


1989C- Early Saturday morning a crisis at the Fiji client site throws your schedule into turmoil. Luckily you and your team are able to resolve matters by dinnertime, and you’ll leave FRA on Sunday afternoon.

Your new itinerary has an 8+35 connection, during which time you’ll have an afternoon meeting with a specialist consultant before continuing on to NAN. Again, you’ll be on a one-stop and a nonstop flight; one airline and aircraft are the same as the original Saturday sequence. Please identify the relevant airlines and jets, as well as the intermediate stop and the connection point.

• one airline is either Air New Zealand or Qantas, operating a 747-100/200
• the other airline is not Air Lanka or Air Pacific, and the aircraft is not a 747 of any variety a narrow-body jet
• the routing does not involve BAH, CMB, HNL, LAX, SIN, or SYD

Seat 2A

jrl767

1989C- ok; let's see if I can make this clearer

• the routing is FRA-XXX-YYY-NAN; I'm not saying whether the connection was made at XXX or YYY
• neither XXX nor YYY are BAH, CMB, HNL, LAX, SIN, or SYD
• one flight is on a 747 operated by either QF or NZ; one flight is on a narrow-body jet operated by a different airline that isn't Air Lanka or Air Pacific (literally, it isn't "Air" anything, which should be a pretty big clue)

jlemon

Good Afternoon All!

Folks, it is definitely a most auspicious day here on the OTAQ&D.....because back on this date in 2011, Seat 2A initiated this thread!

Thus, today is (cue the massed trumpets)......

The Ten Year Anniversary of the Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion

So to celebrate, here is a new set of quiz items, all with a tropical Caribbean theme. And these will be followed in the very near future by a new set from Seat 2A.

Please limit your response to two quiz items per day so all may participate. And please be as specific as possible when identifying aircraft types.

1. It's 1962 and you're on your way to Panama from New Orleans for a meeting in the Canal Zone following a visit with a very special lady friend in the French Quarter. You've found a milk run flight from New Orleans to Panama City which makes five intermediate stops en route and operates twice a week. Identify the air carrier, all five stops in the order in which they will be made and the equipment. ANSWERED

2. Now it's 1967 and you are in Dallas. You're off to San Juan on a business assignment which will be followed by a sailboat adventure over to the British Virgin Islands. Your flight operates daily and two stops will be made en route. Name the airline, both stops and the aircraft type. ANSWERED

3. It's still 1967 and you're in Santo Domingo in the Dominican Republic. You are flying nonstop to New York City on a Thursday. What air carrier are you flying with and on what type of aircraft? ANSWERED

4. It's a beautiful day in 1973 on the lovely island of Grand Cayman. You need to fly to Barbados and there is no nonstop or direct service. But no problem! You've found a convenient way to travel on the day you need to make your journey from GCM to BGI that involves a connection between two different airlines with both air carriers operating the same aircraft type. This connection is only possible on Wednesdays and that's the day you need to travel. Your first flight will be nonstop to a destination where you will have a leisurely lunch with an old sailing friend on his catamaran. In fact, you will have a connecting interval of five and one-half hours. And your second flight will make one intermediate stop en route. Identify both airlines, the connecting airport, the equipment and the stop made by the second flight.

5. Now you are in Caracas in 1973 and are off to St. Croix to inspect a sailboat that is for sale. You've found a very interesting way to fly from CCS to STX which is only operated on a weekly basis. The itinerary involves a connection followed by a flight number change....but the res agent with the airline in question has informed you that the same aircraft will be operated all the way through on your journey. Your first flight will be nonstop. You'll then make a quick 20 minute connection back on board the same airplane which will make three stops en route to St. Croix with a flight number change at the third stop. Name the air carrier, the connecting airport, all three stops made by the second "thru plane" service flight and the aircraft. ANSWERED

6. It's 1976 and you are in New York City. You need to travel to San Juan. Now you could take a nonstop flight...but instead you've found an interesting flight that operates daily and makes four intermediate stops en route. And, of course, you will be in first class. Identify the airport you will depart from in the New York City area, the airline you will be flying with, all four stops and the equipment. ANSWERED

7. It's still 1976 and you are off to Puerto Rico once again. However, this time you are not heading to San Juan. Instead, you are flying to Ponce. Your current location is Syracuse so you will have to make a connection with two airlines being involved. Your first flight which operates daily will be nonstop to your connecting airport where you'll have a leisurely three hours and 15 minutes to make your connection. Your second flight is also a nonstop and operates three days a week. Different aircraft types built by the same manufacturer are operated on each flight. Identify both air carriers, the airport where the connection will be made and the different aircraft types operated on each flight. ANSWERED

8. You are in Portland, Oregon and it's 1979. You are on your way to an island which is located on the fringes of the Caribbean. One airline can get you there via a quick 35 minute connection (the online MCT for this air carrier at the airport in question is 30 minutes). Your first flight will make no less than four intermediate stops en route and operates daily. Your second flight will be a nonstop and only operates on the weekends. The same aircraft type is operated on both flights. So with all this in mind, please identify the following:
A. The island you will be traveling to. ANSWERED
B. The air carrier operating both flights. ANSWERED
C. All four stops made by the first flight. ANSWERED
D. The connecting airport. ANSWERED
E. The equipment. ANSWERED

9. Now it's early 1980 and you are in Miami. You've accepted a business assignment as a consultant for an infrastructure project in La Ceiba, Honduras that is being undertaken by a Dutch marine construction company and you will be in country for several months. So you are on your way to La Ceiba from MIA. Your journey will involve an online 30 minute connection but is also a "thru plane" service operated with the same aircraft with a flight number change at the connecting airport. Both flights are nonstops. Identify the airline, the connecting airport and the equipment.

10. It's the spring of 1980 and you've successfully concluded your project work in Honduras. The Dutch marine construction firm you've been consulting with has requested that you meet with them at their corporate headquarters in Amsterdam so you are on your way. Two airlines and a connection will be required for your journey from LCE to AMS. Your first flight only operates once a week with one stop being made en route to your connecting airport where you will have one hour and 45 minutes to connect. The second flight also makes one stop en route and only operates twice a week. Different aircraft types built by different manufacturers are operated on each flight. Name both air carriers, the stop made by the first flight, the connecting airport, the stop made by the second flight and the different aircraft types operated on each flight.

The next three quiz items all have a time line of 1991.....

11. You're back on St. Croix and need to travel to Milwaukee. One airline can fly you from STX to MKE with a connection being required. You'll have just over two hours to make your connection. Both flights operate on a daily basis with the first flight making one stop en route and the second flight being a nonstop. The same aircraft type is operated on both flights. Identify the air carrier, the stop made by the first flight, the connecting airport and the equipment. ANSWERED

12. Now you are in Grand Turk in the Turks and Caicos islands. You've booked a seat on a nonstop to Miami which only operates once a week. What airline are you flying with and on what type of aircraft?

13. You are in Montego Bay. You have an upcoming meeting scheduled in the Houston area and would prefer to fly into Hobby Airport. Ah, here's a direct one stop flight which operates daily from MBJ to HOU! Name the air carrier, the stop and the equipment. ANSWERED

The next four quiz items all have a time line of 1995.....

14. You're on board a nonstop flight from San Juan to Barbados which only operates three days week. The aircraft is configured with an all-coach cabin. What airline are you flying with and on what type of aircraft?

15. If you wanted to fly on board a jet nonstop to Antigua from Vigie Airport (SLU), the close-in airfield serving Castries, the capital city of St. Lucia, what airline would you call and what type of jet would you be flying on?

16. You're on St. Maarten and need to travel to Denver. The airline you've chosen to fly with in first class can get you from SXM to DEN with a connection being required. You'll have 34 minutes to make your connection (the online MCT for this air carrier at the airport in question is 30 minutes) and you will have pre-cleared customs at SXM prior to departure. Both flights will be nonstop with the first flight only operating once a week and the second operating daily. Different aircraft types built by different manufacturers will be operated on each flight. Name the air carrier, the connecting airport and the different aircraft types. ANSWERED

17. Now you're on your way from Atlanta to Grenada. Your flight operates six days a week (the service is flown every day except on Wednesdays) and two stops are made en route from ATL to GND. Identify the airline, both stops and the equipment. ANSWERED

The next two quiz items both have a time line of 1996......

18. You are in Berlin on a Saturday night when you get a phone call from you-know-who: "Hey buddy, can you make it over to San Juan by this Monday and take a look at a sailboat for sale?" Well, why not! You quickly ascertain that one airline can transport you from Tegel Airport (TXL) to SJU via a connection. You take note of the fact that the first flight is actually a code sharing service operated by another air carrier. Both of your flights will be nonstop and you'll have a leisurely two hours and 25 minutes to make your connection. Your flight from Berlin operates daily and the flight to San Juan only operates once a week every Sunday. You will also be in business class on both flights. A narrow body aircraft will be operated on your first flight and a wide body aircraft will be operated on your second flight. Identify the air carrier you will call to make your reservations, the connecting airport and the different aircraft types. ANSWERED

19. You've closed the deal on the sailboat in San Juan and have also managed to sail the vessel with the help of good friends over to Virgin Gorda in the BVI and back on a multiday trip. So you now need to head back to Europe on a Saturday for a meeting in Aberdeen in Scotland bright and early on Monday morning. Two airlines will be involved with your journey. Both flights will be nonstop and you'll have two hours and 10 minutes to make your connection. Your flight from San Juan only operates once a week every Saturday and although the flight to Aberdeen operates daily, the equipment on Sundays is different from the usual aircraft operated on the route with a slightly later departure time from the connecting airport. And different aircraft types built by different manufacturers are operated on the two flights we are looking for. Name both air carriers, the connecting airport and the aircraft types.

20. Now it's 2000 and you are in Kingston, Jamaica. You have an upcoming meeting scheduled in Houston and you've ascertained that one airline can get you there via a quick 40 minute online connection with this service being offered three days a week. The same aircraft type will be operated on both nonstop flights. Identify the air carrier, the connecting airport, the equipment and the airport you will arrive into in the Houston area. ANSWERED

jrl767

happy anniversary/ birthday/whatever to the Quiz indeed! I went back to try to locate my first post herein ... # 2775, June of 2013

we are now over 24000

jrl767

8- I'm going to approach these out of sequence for purposes of documenting my thought process

(B)- neither American nor Pan Am served PDX in 1979, so we're looking at Eastern
(A)- "on the fringes of the Caribbean" strongly suggests the destination isn't Cozumel, the ABCs, the Virgin Islands, Hispaniola, or Puerto Rico
(D)- EA served almost all the small islands between Trinidad and Tortola; this strongly suggests the equipment was a 727-100
(E)- a few island destinations had nonstop service from Miami/MIA, but San Juan/SJU seems a far more likely connecting point
(C)- the flight out of PDX certainly put down in St Louis/STL, and Atlanta/ATL is certainly logical, but we still need another one in addition to MIA... my 17-day $399 Unlimited Mileage adventure in Dec 1979 included ATL-SJU on a 72S, but from a capacity standpoint I *really* can't see a 727 on MIA-SJU, so I'm going to start with a "nothing-to-lose" approach

the first part of my official guess is that we're starting out with an EA 727-25 going PDX-STL-ATL-MIA-Santo Domingo/SDQ-SJU; since I'm playing "pick 'em" for the ultimate destination, Pointe-a-Pitre Guadeloupe/PTP