Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
May 6, 2021, 11:19 am
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The closeness with SAS lasted (apart from showing flights in one another's timetables) right through into the DC-10 era, by which time it embraced KLM, UTA, and Air New Zealand, all of whom had a common flight deck specification for their DC-10s and could use one another's simulators. The British Airways DC-10 aircraft share with Air New Zealand of the 1970s on LHR-LAX used for the BA crews the KLM DC-10 simulator in Amsterdam.
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1. It's a beautiful Monday evening in the spring of 1959 and you are on your way to Bermuda from Baltimore for a holiday. Your flight makes one intermediate stop en route. Name the airline, the stop and the aircraft.
You mentioned I was on track with my earlier comments possibly referencing British Eagle. There was a nice article about them a year or so ago in Airways magazine, and in 1959 I can't recall if they were doing business as British Eagle, Eagle Airways or Cunard Eagle. Whatever their name, lets go with them running a Viscount BAL-DCA-BDA because I'm pretty sure BOAC did not serve Bermuda from Baltimore, much less anywhere else from Baltimore back then.
10. You're in Curacao in 1970 and are on your way to San Juan. Your flight operates daily and makes one stop en route. Identify the air carrier, the stop and the aircraft.
This sounds like it could be a Trans-Caribbean DC-8-61 stopping in - I don't know - St. Maarten? I remember being quite taken with the two-tone blue livery on those TCA airplanes - especially the palm tree on the tail. It just said "Caribbean" in appearance all over the airplane. https://s.yimg.com/aah/rickbroomeonl...nframed-13.png I was also intrigued by those r/t First Class excursion fares offered only in the Caribbean from the U.S.
Hope you had a good road trip!
You mentioned I was on track with my earlier comments possibly referencing British Eagle. There was a nice article about them a year or so ago in Airways magazine, and in 1959 I can't recall if they were doing business as British Eagle, Eagle Airways or Cunard Eagle. Whatever their name, lets go with them running a Viscount BAL-DCA-BDA because I'm pretty sure BOAC did not serve Bermuda from Baltimore, much less anywhere else from Baltimore back then.
10. You're in Curacao in 1970 and are on your way to San Juan. Your flight operates daily and makes one stop en route. Identify the air carrier, the stop and the aircraft.
This sounds like it could be a Trans-Caribbean DC-8-61 stopping in - I don't know - St. Maarten? I remember being quite taken with the two-tone blue livery on those TCA airplanes - especially the palm tree on the tail. It just said "Caribbean" in appearance all over the airplane. https://s.yimg.com/aah/rickbroomeonl...nframed-13.png I was also intrigued by those r/t First Class excursion fares offered only in the Caribbean from the U.S.
Hope you had a good road trip!
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May 6, 2021, 12:36 pm
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... a schedule existed that the train followed under normal conditions in the mid-70s (which I discovered was already operating to and from Nakhodka in the mid-70s (1973) based on Paul Theroux's book), but we don't know whether select trains shut down completely when there may have been no foreign visitors due to temporary entry restrictions such after the shootdown of Korean Airlines Flight 007 ...
).The accounts of issues with Soviet Union/Russia are often distorted by journalists and politicians, which unfortunately continues to the present time. There have been, as far as I am aware, no blanket restrictions on foreign travel, but you do need to be compliant with the regulations and different ways, which broadly follow those for the domestic population and which, to a considerable extent, the local population just get on with, or circumvent. The TransSib has been possible I think throughout and there is even a specific visa, the "double entry", to cover people making the round trip from Europe to Japan and back. Always been like this - a travel book from over 100 years ago, when passports were pretty optional, has to describe the considerable bureaucratic approach in old Czarist Russia.
The principal issue for solo travellers has always been few of them speak Russian, and few Russians speak anything else. Hence guiding people to tours with guides. Even transit at Moscow airports suffers from this. When western aircraft land at a Russian airport, all the ground vehicles are being controlled in Russian, so a guidance vehicle precedes each western aircraft on its route to and from the ramp. 15 years ago at St Petersburg they were old Ladas, but they have bought some new ones now.
I like Westcott Jones' old book about train travel. Paul Theroux I find in contrast is far too much wiffle-waffle (and incorrect facts). I did have his book years ago, but it went to the charity shop in a clearout.
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1. It's a beautiful Monday evening in the spring of 1959 and you are on your way to Bermuda from Baltimore for a holiday. Your flight makes one intermediate stop en route. Name the airline, the stop and the aircraft.
You mentioned I was on track with my earlier comments possibly referencing British Eagle. There was a nice article about them a year or so ago in Airways magazine, and in 1959 I can't recall if they were doing business as British Eagle, Eagle Airways or Cunard Eagle. Whatever their name, lets go with them running a Viscount BAL-DCA-BDA because I'm pretty sure BOAC did not serve Bermuda from Baltimore, much less anywhere else from Baltimore back then.
10. You're in Curacao in 1970 and are on your way to San Juan. Your flight operates daily and makes one stop en route. Identify the air carrier, the stop and the aircraft.
This sounds like it could be a Trans-Caribbean DC-8-61 stopping in - I don't know - St. Maarten? I remember being quite taken with the two-tone blue livery on those TCA airplanes - especially the palm tree on the tail. It just said "Caribbean" in appearance all over the airplane. I was also intrigued by those r/t First Class excursion fares offered only in the Caribbean from the U.S.
Hope you had a good road trip!
You mentioned I was on track with my earlier comments possibly referencing British Eagle. There was a nice article about them a year or so ago in Airways magazine, and in 1959 I can't recall if they were doing business as British Eagle, Eagle Airways or Cunard Eagle. Whatever their name, lets go with them running a Viscount BAL-DCA-BDA because I'm pretty sure BOAC did not serve Bermuda from Baltimore, much less anywhere else from Baltimore back then.
10. You're in Curacao in 1970 and are on your way to San Juan. Your flight operates daily and makes one stop en route. Identify the air carrier, the stop and the aircraft.
This sounds like it could be a Trans-Caribbean DC-8-61 stopping in - I don't know - St. Maarten? I remember being quite taken with the two-tone blue livery on those TCA airplanes - especially the palm tree on the tail. It just said "Caribbean" in appearance all over the airplane. I was also intrigued by those r/t First Class excursion fares offered only in the Caribbean from the U.S.
Hope you had a good road trip!
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It could be that the KGB or whoever thought that the chances of Bowie being a spy (or anything useful to western intelligence) was much lower than the benefit of a goodwill visit and may have permitted him a (very well escorted) visit not permissible or possible for others.
https://www.rbth.com/travel/2013/10/...r_of_the_world
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1. It's a beautiful Monday evening in the spring of 1959 and you are on your way to Bermuda from Baltimore for a holiday. Your flight makes one intermediate stop en route. Name the airline, the stop and the aircraft.
You mentioned I was on track with my earlier comments possibly referencing British Eagle. There was a nice article about them a year or so ago in Airways magazine, and in 1959 I can't recall if they were doing business as British Eagle, Eagle Airways or Cunard Eagle. Whatever their name, lets go with them running a Viscount BAL-DCA-BDA because I'm pretty sure BOAC did not serve Bermuda from Baltimore, much less anywhere else from Baltimore back then.
10. You're in Curacao in 1970 and are on your way to San Juan. Your flight operates daily and makes one stop en route. Identify the air carrier, the stop and the aircraft.
This sounds like it could be a Trans-Caribbean DC-8-61 stopping in - I don't know - St. Maarten? I remember being quite taken with the two-tone blue livery on those TCA airplanes - especially the palm tree on the tail. It just said "Caribbean" in appearance all over the airplane. https://s.yimg.com/aah/rickbroomeonl...nframed-13.png I was also intrigued by those r/t First Class excursion fares offered only in the Caribbean from the U.S.
Hope you had a good road trip!
You mentioned I was on track with my earlier comments possibly referencing British Eagle. There was a nice article about them a year or so ago in Airways magazine, and in 1959 I can't recall if they were doing business as British Eagle, Eagle Airways or Cunard Eagle. Whatever their name, lets go with them running a Viscount BAL-DCA-BDA because I'm pretty sure BOAC did not serve Bermuda from Baltimore, much less anywhere else from Baltimore back then.
10. You're in Curacao in 1970 and are on your way to San Juan. Your flight operates daily and makes one stop en route. Identify the air carrier, the stop and the aircraft.
This sounds like it could be a Trans-Caribbean DC-8-61 stopping in - I don't know - St. Maarten? I remember being quite taken with the two-tone blue livery on those TCA airplanes - especially the palm tree on the tail. It just said "Caribbean" in appearance all over the airplane. https://s.yimg.com/aah/rickbroomeonl...nframed-13.png I was also intrigued by those r/t First Class excursion fares offered only in the Caribbean from the U.S.
Hope you had a good road trip!
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10. An excellent guess! Unfortunately, it wasn't Trans-Caribbean, the equipment wasn't a Super DC-8-61 and the stop wasn't made at SXM.
And speaking of first class, the flight in question did not offer an F cabin as the aircraft was operated in an all-coach configuration....so there's a hint.
May 7, 2021, 7:41 am
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As always, please limit your response to two quiz items per day so that all may participate and please be as specific as you can when identifying aircraft types. Thanks!
9. Name the airline that ran a print ad in 1970 with this headline:
THE EXECUTIVE JET. The convenience of the office. The comforts of home.
It wasn't Pan Am. The aircraft operated by the airline in question were not business jets but were mainline jetliners in scheduled passenger service. Hint: this air carrier was not based in the U.S.
10. You're in Curacao in 1970 and are on your way to San Juan. Your flight operates daily and makes one stop en route. Identify the air carrier, the stop and the aircraft. ANSWERED
13. It's 1975 and you are in southern California. From Los Angeles you've driven down to Newport Beach in Orange County for a meeting. Now you are heading to a second meeting up in Portland, Oregon. You've found a convenient direct daily flight from Santa Ana to Portland which makes two stops en route. Name the airline, both stops and the aircraft.
14. Now you're in Boston, it's 1976 and you are on your way to Chicago. Your daily flight will make three stops en route and two of stops will not be made at major airports. Identify the air carrier, all three stops in order and the equipment. ANSWERED
The next two quiz items both have a time line of 1979:
18. From Philadelphia you need to travel to Dayton. You've found a convenient early afternoon flight which operates daily with just one stop being made. Name the air carrier, the stop and the equipment. It wasn't USAir, Republic, TWA or Delta. The stop was made at CVG, the aircraft was a DC9-30 and the time line here is the late spring of 1979.
19. Now you are in the New York City area and are on your way to Denver on a daily direct service. Your flight will make four stops en route and three of these stops will not be made at major airports. Identify the airport you will depart from in the NYC area, the airline, all four stops in order and the aircraft. ANSWERED
The next two quiz items both have a time line of 1980:
21. If you wanted to fly nonstop to Hong Kong from Bangkok on board a Boeing 727-200 at this time, there was only one air carrier to call. Name that airline. ANSWERED
23. It's been a lovely sail in the Pacific from Costa Rica up the coast. You were planning to stay on board your sailing buddy's catamaran all the way to Santa Barbara. However, business intrudes, a phone call is received and could you make a meeting in Seattle the next morning? The boat just happens to be moored in the marina in Mazatlan and you quickly ascertain there's a midday departure from MZT direct to SEA which makes two stops en route. Better yet, there's a seat available in the front cabin. Identify the airline, both stops and the equipment. ANSWERED
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May 7, 2021, 9:17 am
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Thanks for the tip, Mr. M! 
I went online and found a used copy in "good condition" for $8.68 USD all in. I eagerly await its arrival as I plot my next big adventure aboard Africa's Rovos Rail from Capetown to Dar es Salaam - pandemic pending.
I went online and found a used copy in "good condition" for $8.68 USD all in. I eagerly await its arrival as I plot my next big adventure aboard Africa's Rovos Rail from Capetown to Dar es Salaam - pandemic pending.
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23. It's been a lovely sail in the Pacific from Costa Rica up the coast. You were planning to stay on board your sailing buddy's catamaran all the way to Santa Barbara. However, business intrudes, a phone call is received and could you make a meeting in Seattle the next morning? The boat just happens to be moored in the marina in Mazatlan and you quickly ascertain there's a midday departure from MZT direct to SEA which makes two stops en route. Better yet, there's a seat available in the front cabin. Identify the airline, both stops and the equipment...
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in 1959 I can't recall if they were doing business as British Eagle, Eagle Airways or Cunard Eagle.
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23. Well, Hughes Airwest was actually still in operation for most of 1980 as the acquisition of RW by Republic became effective on October 1, 1980. In fact, Hughes Airwest was still issuing their own timetable in September of that year. In other words, the airline in question here is Hughes Airwest, not RC. In addition, a B727-200 was operated on this flight which did stop in Phoenix....but not in Salt Lake City.
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10. You're in Curacao in 1970 and are on your way to San Juan. Your flight operates daily and makes one stop en route. Identify the air carrier, the stop and the aircraft.
Well, Curacao has me thinking the Dutch connection, and while I'm tempted to go with KLM, given the all Y-Class stipulation let's instead go with KLM's little brother ALM operating a DC-9-10 via Aruba
14. Now you're in Boston, it's 1976 and you are on your way to Chicago. Your daily flight will make three stops en route and two of stops will not be made at major airports. Identify the air carrier, all three stops in order and the equipment. It was Allegheny operating a DC9-50, the first stop was ABE and the third stop was PIT. Stops were not made at DCA, RIC, GSO, ALB, ROC, DTW, CMH, DAY, BGM, ELM, PVD, BDL, SYR, BUF or MDT. So all we need is the second stop here: BOS - ABE - ___ - PIT - ORD.
As a veteran of two go rounds with Allegheny / US Air's Liberty Fare pass, I'm gonna have to go with Philadelphia (PHL)
Well, Curacao has me thinking the Dutch connection, and while I'm tempted to go with KLM, given the all Y-Class stipulation let's instead go with KLM's little brother ALM operating a DC-9-10 via Aruba
14. Now you're in Boston, it's 1976 and you are on your way to Chicago. Your daily flight will make three stops en route and two of stops will not be made at major airports. Identify the air carrier, all three stops in order and the equipment. It was Allegheny operating a DC9-50, the first stop was ABE and the third stop was PIT. Stops were not made at DCA, RIC, GSO, ALB, ROC, DTW, CMH, DAY, BGM, ELM, PVD, BDL, SYR, BUF or MDT. So all we need is the second stop here: BOS - ABE - ___ - PIT - ORD.
As a veteran of two go rounds with Allegheny / US Air's Liberty Fare pass, I'm gonna have to go with Philadelphia (PHL)
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