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35- MDW-MEM: let's try United on a 737-200 ... TI DC9 MEM-XXX-YYY-DAL-HOU, XXX and YYY are not LIT and SHV: there sure ain't much else in those parts except Hot Springs/HOT and Texarkana/TXK (I went IAH-SHV-GGG-DFW on a TI Convair 600 in 1974, but I don't think Longview/Marshall/Kilgore ever saw jet service)
56- you indeed said Christmas; the "technicality" comment was only in (exasperated) jest with respect to several other recent answers (from myself as well as others) about the airline of record vs the guess
as for the origin of this flight, it was abundantly clear to me that dfw88 had initially been very close to saying "AS from SEA" but opted for PDX instead ... accounting for the calendar oversight, my guess is US (nee PS) from SEA
56- you indeed said Christmas; the "technicality" comment was only in (exasperated) jest with respect to several other recent answers (from myself as well as others) about the airline of record vs the guess
as for the origin of this flight, it was abundantly clear to me that dfw88 had initially been very close to saying "AS from SEA" but opted for PDX instead ... accounting for the calendar oversight, my guess is US (nee PS) from SEA
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35- MDW-MEM: let's try United on a 737-200 ... TI DC9 MEM-XXX-YYY-DAL-HOU, XXX and YYY are not LIT and SHV: there sure ain't much else in those parts except Hot Springs/HOT and Texarkana/TXK (I went IAH-SHV-GGG-DFW on a TI Convair 600 in 1974, but I don't think Longview/Marshall/Kilgore ever saw jet service)
56- you indeed said Christmas; the "technicality" comment was only in (exasperated) jest with respect to several other recent answers (from myself as well as others) about the airline of record vs the guess
as for the origin of this flight, it was abundantly clear to me that dfw88 had initially been very close to saying "AS from SEA" but opted for PDX instead ... accounting for the calendar oversight, my guess is US (nee PS) from SEA
56- you indeed said Christmas; the "technicality" comment was only in (exasperated) jest with respect to several other recent answers (from myself as well as others) about the airline of record vs the guess
as for the origin of this flight, it was abundantly clear to me that dfw88 had initially been very close to saying "AS from SEA" but opted for PDX instead ... accounting for the calendar oversight, my guess is US (nee PS) from SEA
56. Yep! USAir indeed continued to serve Yakima after acquiring PSA....but not for very long. At the end of 1988, USAir was actually operating two daily MD-80 flights into YKM (and I think the aircraft were formerly operated by PSA). Here are the complete schedules for both....
US 2763: San Francisco (SFO) 11:40a - 1:31p Seattle (SEA) 2:05p - 2:46p Yakima (YKM)
Freq: Daily
Service class: Y
Meal service: Lunch SFO-SEA
Equip: MD-80
US 2735: San Francisco (SFO) 8:40p - 10:31p Seattle (SEA) 11:00p - 11:41p Yakima (YKM)
Freq: Daily
Service class: Y
Meal service: Dinner SFO-SEA
Equip: MD-80
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And here's some hopefully interesting news....
Back when I moved to Austin in the early 1970's to attend the University of Texas, Austin was only served by three airlines: Braniff International operating B727-100 and B727-200 aircraft, Continental operating B720B and B727-200 aircraft and Texas International operating DC9-10 and DC9-30 aircraft. The longest nonstop flight from AUS back then was operated by Braniff to Washington Dulles.
The years have sped by and my oh my....how Austin has grown. Earlier this year, I was booked on a British Airways A350 from London Heathrow nonstop to Austin. However, the current pandemic resulted in the cancellation of my trip to Europe last summer.
And now Hawaiian Airlines has announced new nonstop A330 service twice a week between Honolulu and Austin to commence this coming April. Let's hope the world has sufficiently returned to normal by that time!
Back when I moved to Austin in the early 1970's to attend the University of Texas, Austin was only served by three airlines: Braniff International operating B727-100 and B727-200 aircraft, Continental operating B720B and B727-200 aircraft and Texas International operating DC9-10 and DC9-30 aircraft. The longest nonstop flight from AUS back then was operated by Braniff to Washington Dulles.
The years have sped by and my oh my....how Austin has grown. Earlier this year, I was booked on a British Airways A350 from London Heathrow nonstop to Austin. However, the current pandemic resulted in the cancellation of my trip to Europe last summer.
And now Hawaiian Airlines has announced new nonstop A330 service twice a week between Honolulu and Austin to commence this coming April. Let's hope the world has sufficiently returned to normal by that time!
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How about the JL DC-8-62 operating GIG-VCP-CCS-JFK-ANC-NRT?
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50. Just to get an obvious one out of the way: UA DC-10 via ORD?
48. Looking at the direct line from SAO to TYO, it wouldn't be too far from such classic destinations as NYC and ANC. I don't think JAL ever served MIA so maybe CCS was a stop along the way and not too far off that direct route.
How about the JL DC-8-62 operating GIG-VCP-CCS-JFK-ANC-NRT?
48. Looking at the direct line from SAO to TYO, it wouldn't be too far from such classic destinations as NYC and ANC. I don't think JAL ever served MIA so maybe CCS was a stop along the way and not too far off that direct route.
How about the JL DC-8-62 operating GIG-VCP-CCS-JFK-ANC-NRT?
50. Nope, it wasn't United, the aircraft wasn't a DC-10 and the flight we are looking for did not stop at Chicago O'Hare.
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Chicago is correct, of course.....and oh by the way, this Northwest flight did not originate in Atlanta and did not terminate in Seattle. Here's the complete sched....
NW 27: Miami (MIA) 1:40p - 3:23p Atlanta (ATL) 4:10p - 5:04p Chicago O'Hare (ORD) 5:50p - 7:58p Seattle/Tacoma (SEA) 9:00p - 10:15p Anchorage (ANC)
Freq: Daily
Service classes: F/Y
Meal services: REGAL IMPERIAL SERVICE MIA-ATL, Snack ATL-ORD, Dinner ORD-SEA, Snack SEA-ANC
Equip: DC-10
Note: REGAL IMPERIAL SERVICE - At no extra fare, Northwest's most elegant in-flight service featuring our finest cuisine. First class meals served on fine china and linen with choice of entrees including complimentary cocktails, wine, and after dinner drinks. Specially selected meals in Coach are most frequently served with wine or champagne within the U.S. domestic system. Hot Oshibori towels are provided on select flights.
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35. Yep, it was good ol' Southern Airways, the "Route of the Aristocrats", which initially served Midway Airport before subsequently switching its Chicago service over to O'Hare. Here's a late 1960's Southern print ad before the airline began to spread its wings to destinations outside of the southern U.S.....
SOmoretoourdc967
And here are the scheds.....
SO 31: Chicago Midway (MDW) 7:30a - 8:50a Memphis (MEM)
Freq: Daily
Service class: S
Meal service: Breakfast
Equip: DC9
Note: SO 31 complete routing MDW-MEM-JAN-MOB-GPT-MSY
Connecting to....
TI 967: Memphis (MEM) 11:05a - 11:46a Hot Springs (HOT) 12:01p - 12:26p Texarkana (TXK) 12:46p - 1:25p Dallas Love Field (DAL) 2:00p - 2:48p Houston Intercontinental (IAH)
Freq: Daily
Service class: S
Meal service: Snack MEM-HOT
Equip: DC9
Note: TI 967 complete routing MEM-HOT-TXK-DAL-IAH-HRL-MFE
Back in 1970, I flew on board TI 967 from Memphis to Houston as I recently mentioned.
SOmoretoourdc967
And here are the scheds.....
SO 31: Chicago Midway (MDW) 7:30a - 8:50a Memphis (MEM)
Freq: Daily
Service class: S
Meal service: Breakfast
Equip: DC9
Note: SO 31 complete routing MDW-MEM-JAN-MOB-GPT-MSY
Connecting to....
TI 967: Memphis (MEM) 11:05a - 11:46a Hot Springs (HOT) 12:01p - 12:26p Texarkana (TXK) 12:46p - 1:25p Dallas Love Field (DAL) 2:00p - 2:48p Houston Intercontinental (IAH)
Freq: Daily
Service class: S
Meal service: Snack MEM-HOT
Equip: DC9
Note: TI 967 complete routing MEM-HOT-TXK-DAL-IAH-HRL-MFE
Back in 1970, I flew on board TI 967 from Memphis to Houston as I recently mentioned.
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48. Also in 1980, this air carrier was operating a direct flight once a week from Rio de Janeiro to Tokyo. The service in question made four stops en route from GIG to NRT. Identify the airline, all four stops in order and the aircraft type.
Japan Air Lines
DC-8-62
GIG (Rio) - VCP (Campinas, sort of Sao Paulo) - SJU (San Juan Puerto Rico) - JFK - ANC - NRT
(sort of odd, to me. I would have recommended CGH (Sao Paulo) - GIG - CCS (if allowed) - JFK - ANC - NRT or CGH - GIG - PTY - LAX - NRT)
Japan Air Lines
DC-8-62
GIG (Rio) - VCP (Campinas, sort of Sao Paulo) - SJU (San Juan Puerto Rico) - JFK - ANC - NRT
(sort of odd, to me. I would have recommended CGH (Sao Paulo) - GIG - CCS (if allowed) - JFK - ANC - NRT or CGH - GIG - PTY - LAX - NRT)
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It was a curious feature of US airline marketing material by this time to give such emphasis on FAN Jets. Northwest was another, and I'm sure further ones did as well. Elsewhere nobody seemed to have any clue about the difference, or even what the expression meant. Even if the aircraft type was mentioned, which wasn't often, it was just by name, and likely a picture, but never specifics about engine type.
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It was a curious feature of US airline marketing material by this time to give such emphasis on FAN Jets. Northwest was another, and I'm sure further ones did as well. Elsewhere nobody seemed to have any clue about the difference, or even what the expression meant. Even if the aircraft type was mentioned, which wasn't often, it was just by name, and likely a picture, but never specifics about engine type.
Here's a Continental ad concerning the Boeing 720B.....
COcomingsoon62
As you mentioned, Northwest got into the fanjet marketing act as well. Here's a couple of Northwest Orient ads.....
NWthisfanjet64
NWdiscoveramerica67
TWA took things a bit further with this ad headlining "DynaFan" jet power....
TWworldsonlymovietheater63
Meanwhile, in 1964 American claimed to have "the largest fan-jet fleet in the world" in this ad.....
AAfanjet64
And American also ran a number of print ads in what they called their "The American Airlines fan-jet story" series. Here's a couple of them....
AAfanjetclimb63
AAhaveyounoticed64
The wonderful world of airline advertising, folks.....
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48. Also in 1980, this air carrier was operating a direct flight once a week from Rio de Janeiro to Tokyo. The service in question made four stops en route from GIG to NRT. Identify the airline, all four stops in order and the aircraft type.
Japan Air Lines
DC-8-62
GIG (Rio) - VCP (Campinas, sort of Sao Paulo) - SJU (San Juan Puerto Rico) - JFK - ANC - NRT
(sort of odd, to me. I would have recommended CGH (Sao Paulo) - GIG - CCS (if allowed) - JFK - ANC - NRT or CGH - GIG - PTY - LAX - NRT)
Japan Air Lines
DC-8-62
GIG (Rio) - VCP (Campinas, sort of Sao Paulo) - SJU (San Juan Puerto Rico) - JFK - ANC - NRT
(sort of odd, to me. I would have recommended CGH (Sao Paulo) - GIG - CCS (if allowed) - JFK - ANC - NRT or CGH - GIG - PTY - LAX - NRT)
Unfortunately, I do not have the complete schedule for this JAL service so here's the relevant page from the March 1, 1980 Worldwide OAG (as reproduced by the good folks over at departedflights.com) with the departure and arrival times for JL 021 from Rio de Janeiro (GIG) to Tokyo (NRT):
NRT80p3