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Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion

Old May 18, 20, 12:56 am
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Originally Posted by YVR Cockroach View Post
57. (1998) From your home in Scottsdale, Arizona you need to travel to Montreal, Quebec for a symposium on light rail options and operations hosted by Bombardier, one of the world's largest companies in the rail vehicle and equipment manufacturing and servicing industry. With plenty of time available to you before the symposium, you decide to have a bit of fun with your flights out to Montreal. To wit, you’ve found a combination of flights that will allow you to.
  • Fly between PHX and YMX aboard a 727, 737 and 747 in that order
  • Both the 727 and 737 flights will be in all-economy configurations with only the 747 offering premium class seating
  • The 727 and 737 flights are not variant specific
It’s worth noting that given the departure point of the 747 into YMX, one and only one routing meets the specifications outlined above, especially given the use of single class configured aircraft. BTW, you will overnight at the final connection point though this shouldn’t have any bearing on the parameters described above. Good luck, men!
The first segment has been identified as ATA PHX-MDW on a 727. The 747 into YMX comes out of Pittsburgh. So, all we need is the 737 operator between MDW and PIT. It wasn't Midway...

One more kick at #57 ~ USAir's MetroJet MDW-PIT

So I went and checked - US Air only operated out of O'Hare on its flights to Pittsburgh. In fact, only one airline operated out of Midway to Pittsburgh, and that's the airline we're looking for. And now for those wonderful words you know I do so love to utter:

Please, guess again!

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Old May 18, 20, 8:05 am
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A View Post

57. (1998) From your home in Scottsdale, Arizona you need to travel to Montreal, Quebec for a symposium on light rail options and operations hosted by Bombardier, one of the world's largest companies in the rail vehicle and equipment manufacturing and servicing industry. With plenty of time available to you before the symposium, you decide to have a bit of fun with your flights out to Montreal. To wit, you’ve found a combination of flights that will allow you to
.
  • Fly between PHX and YMX aboard a 727, 737 and 747 in that order
  • Both the 727 and 737 flights will be in all-economy configurations with only the 747 offering premium class seating
  • The 727 and 737 flights are not variant specific
It’s worth noting that given the departure point of the 747 into YMX, one and only one routing meets the specifications outlined above, especially given the use of single class configured aircraft. BTW, you will overnight at the final connection point though this shouldn’t have any bearing on the parameters described above. Good luck, men!
The first segment has been identified as ATA PHX-MDW on a 727. The 747 into YMX comes out of Pittsburgh. So, all we need is the 737 operator between MDW and PIT. It wasn't Midway...
57. Perhaps the air carrier operating the flight from Chicago Midway to Pittsburgh was a small airline that was attempting to use MDW as a small hub at this time: Vanguard (which I believe began operations during the mid 1990's).
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58. (1988) You’ve had a great week of sailboarding around the Bahamas and now it’s time to return home to Nashville. Your trip out to Nassau involved a couple of connections, but on the way home you’ll be on a direct flight – albeit one that makes two enroute stops. That’s fine by you – there’ll be less chances to damage or lose your rad sailboard. Identify the airline, aircraft and the two enroute stops in order please.
58- let's get started on trying to knock out this last one ... as usual, a fairly obvious choice of airline means it's probably wrong, but a less-common aircraft makes it worth a try ... Eastern, with a DC-9-50 stopping at West Palm Beach (PBI) and Atlanta (ATL)
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Originally Posted by jlemon View Post
57. (1998) From your home in Scottsdale, Arizona you need to travel to Montreal, Quebec for a symposium on light rail options and operations hosted by Bombardier, one of the world's largest companies in the rail vehicle and equipment manufacturing and servicing industry. With plenty of time available to you before the symposium, you decide to have a bit of fun with your flights out to Montreal. To wit, you’ve found a combination of flights that will allow you to.
  • Fly between PHX and YMX aboard a 727, 737 and 747 in that order
  • Both the 727 and 737 flights will be in all-economy configurations with only the 747 offering premium class seating
  • The 727 and 737 flights are not variant specific
It’s worth noting that given the departure point of the 747 into YMX, one and only one routing meets the specifications outlined above, especially given the use of single class configured aircraft. BTW, you will overnight at the final connection point though this shouldn’t have any bearing on the parameters described above. Good luck, men!
The first segment has been identified as ATA PHX-MDW on a 727. The 747 into YMX comes out of Pittsburgh. So, all we need is the 737 operator between MDW and PIT. It wasn't Midway...

Perhaps the air carrier operating the flight from Chicago Midway to Pittsburgh was a small airline that was attempting to use MDW as a small hub at this time: Vanguard (which I believe began operations during the mid 1990's).

Allow me to quote a line often used by the late, great Ed McMahon on Johnny Carson's Late Show: "You are correct, Sir!! Har! Har! har!!! Here's the full itinerary:

American Trans Air TZ 751 Phoenix (PHX) 800a-1215p S Chicago (MDW) 727-200 X7
Vanguard Airlines NJ 804 Chicago (MDW) 400p-620p Pittsburgh (PIT) 737-200 Daily
British Airways BA 094 Pittsburgh (PIT) 645p-810p S Montreal (YMX) 747-200 Daily
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58. (1988) You’ve had a great week of sailboarding around the Bahamas and now it’s time to return home to Nashville. Your trip out to Nassau involved a couple of connections, but on the way home you’ll be on a direct flight – albeit one that makes two enroute stops. That’s fine by you – there’ll be less chances to damage or lose your rad sailboard. Identify the airline, aircraft and the two enroute stops in order please.

Let's get started on trying to knock out this last one ... as usual, a fairly obvious choice of airline means it's probably wrong, but a less-common aircraft makes it worth a try ... Eastern, with a DC-9-50 stopping at West Palm Beach (PBI) and Atlanta (ATL)

Why not start with the obvious choice? Sometimes it's right. But not this time! We're looking for a different airline operating a different aircraft along an entirely different routing.

Please, guess again!
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We're almost done here. Just two to go... with an exciting and well crafted set of international questions from jlemon awaiting...

ANSWERED OR NOT - THESE QUESTIONS WILL BE REMOVED BY 1000PM ADT TONIGHT. I'll repost any unanswered as part of my next installment in early June.


38. (1998) Seeya in June!

58. (1988) Seeya in June!

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Looks like I'm back up to bat once again......so here we go.

As always, please limit your response to two quiz items per day so that all may participate. And complete answers are requested as well.

1. In 1958, this airline was operating direct service twice a week from Mexico City to Lisbon. One flight made two stops en route while the other flight made three stops en route with the first two stops made by each flight being the same. Identify the air carrier, the stops and the equipment. And here's a hint: the airline in question was not based in Mexico or Portugal. ANSWERED

2. It's 1963 and you are in Aruba. You need to travel to New York City on business and will be flying on an airline that offers connecting service. Your first flight operates five days a week nonstop to your connecting city with the equipment configured with an all-coach single class cabin. The second flight operates nonstop to NYC on a daily basis with a first and coach two class cabin. Both flights operate with different aircraft types. Name the air carrier, the connecting city and both aircraft types. ANSWERED

The next six quiz items all have a time line of 1967.....

3. Now you are in Toronto. You've been requested to attend a meeting in Raleigh, NC and are surprised to learn there is a direct, no change of plane flight from Toronto to Raleigh/Durham which makes three stops en route and first class is available. Identify the airline, all three stops in order and the equipment. ANSWERED

4. A successful business presentation in the Hong Kong office of a marine transportation company operating a fleet of oil supertankers has now led to a request for a follow-up meeting at the company's corporate headquarters in Athens. So off you go in first class on a Friday morning on board a flight from Hong Kong to Athens which will make three stops en route. Name the air carrier, all three stops in order and the aircraft type.

5. This airline was operating nonstop flights between East Midlands in the UK and Rotterdam at this time featuring "Golden Wing" service including full hot meal meals. Name the air carrier. ANSWERED

6. You enjoyed the "Golden Wing" service on your flight to Rotterdam for your meeting and soon it will be time to head over to London. The problem is you're not quite sure when the meeting will conclude so flexibility will be required concerning your travel plans. Fortunately, one airline operates four nonstop flights a day from Rotterdam to London so you elect to travel with them when you're ready. The same aircraft type is operated on all four flights. Identify the air carrier and the equipment. ANSWERED - KLM operating the Electra

7. If you wanted to fly on board a de Havilland Comet from Helsinki nonstop to London at this time, what airline would you call? ANSWERED

8. Now you are in Montreal and need to travel to San Antonio for a meeting. Well, you figure at least one connection will be required....but then you find a direct flight with no change of plane service which will make three stops en route. Name the air carrier, all three stops in order and the aircraft. ANSWERED

9. It's 1968 and you are back in Aruba. You need to travel to the New York City area once again on business....but this time it would be much more convenient to arrive into Newark Airport as your meeting will take place in Perth Amboy. One airline can get you there via a quick 30 minute connection....however, both flights, which are operated with the same type of aircraft, only offer all-coach single class service. Your first flight from Aruba operates nonstop to your connecting city and the second flight to Newark makes one intermediate stop en route. Identify the air carrier, the connecting city, the stop made by the second flight and the equipment.

10. In 1973, this airline ran a print ad introducing its new DC-10 aircraft which it called the "Big Ten". Name the air carrier. And here's a hint: the airline in question was not based in the U.S. It wasn't Singapore Airlines

11. It's 1975 and you are in New York City. You've been requested to attend a meeting in Vancouver and have found a daily direct flight to YVR which will make two stops en route. Identify the airline, the airport you will depart from in the NYC area, both stops and the aircraft. ANSWERED

12. Now it's 1979 and you are back in Vancouver. Your next meeting is way down south in Dixie in Jackson, Mississippi. This should be interesting, you think, with several connections most likely being required.....however, you are amazed to find a direct, no change of plane flight which operates daily from YVR to JAN with only three stops being made en route. Name the air carrier, all three stops in order and the equipment. ANSWERED

13. It's still 1979 and you are in Honolulu. You need to travel to the London area and would prefer to arrive into Heathrow as your meeting will take place in Windsor. One airline can get you there with a connection....but the connection only works three days a week. Fortunately, the schedule works for you with your first flight departing HNL in the evening nonstop to your connecting city where you will have two and one-half hours to connect with time for a shower and breakfast before boarding your second flight which will make one intermediate stop en route to LHR. Each flight operates with a different aircraft type. So with all this in mind, identify the air carrier, the connecting city, the stop made by the second flight and the equipment operated on each flight. It wasn't Air Canada, the connection was not made via YVR, the first flight wasn't operated with an L-1011 and the second flight was not operated with a B747

The next five quiz items all have a time line of 1980.......

14. If you wanted to arrive into Miami on board a Lockheed L-188 Electra nonstop from an international location at this time, what airline would you call and where would you depart from? It wasn't Aerocondor, Ecuatoriana, Sunjet International, COPA or SAHSA. The flight originated in Honduras.

15. If you wanted to fly nonstop into London Heathrow from Inverness, Scotland on board a jet, what air carrier would you call and what type of aircraft would you be flying on? ANSWERED

16. If you wanted to fly nonstop from Rome to London Heathrow on board a Vickers VC-10, what airline would you call? ANSWERED

17. If you wanted to fly nonstop into London Heathrow from Barcelona on board a wide body aircraft, you could do so but only once a week. What air carrier would you call and what type of aircraft would you be flying on? It wasn't Avianca or Iberia nor was the aircraft a 747 or DC-10. Hint: this flight did not originate in South America.

18. Only one airline was operating Boeing 747 service into London Gatwick at this time with only one daily nonstop flight. Name the air carrier that operated this flight into LGW as well as the airport it departed from. ANSWERED

19. It's 1985 on a Friday morning and you are in Port au Prince, Haiti where you've just delivered a sailboat. You need to travel to Los Angeles and have found a connecting service operated by one airline with a convenient afternoon departure. Your first flight only operates once a week and will travel nonstop to your connecting city where you'll have one hour and ten minutes to connect. Your second flight also only operates once a week on a nonstop basis to LAX. Different aircraft are utilized on each flight and first class is available on both flights. Identify the airline, the connecting city and both aircraft types. ANSWERED

20. You are in Atlanta in 1987 and are on your way to Calgary. Your flight operates six days a week, makes one stop en route and you have just taken your seat in first class. Name the air carrier, the stop and the equipment.

21. Now it's 1989 and you are back in Vancouver. Friends in Palm Springs have invited you to a party at their home and you've found a flight from YVR down to PSP that fits your schedule with this service making one stop en route. Identify the airline, the stop and the aircraft.
It wasn't Air Cal, the flight did not stop at SFO and the aircraft wasn't a B737-200

22. In 1993, this air carrier operating nonstop service between Miami and two destinations in South America ran a print ad including these statements:

Offering First Class Service at Economy Fares! (Airline) daily schedule is served by a (equipment) specially configured as a one-class aircraft carrying 98 passengers in business class seats, two on each side. A host of trained cabin attendants serve the finest selection of complimentary champagne, wine and liqueurs accompanied by gourmet cuisine served on china and linen with a silverware setting. Other amenities include an open bar, in-flight movies and music, complimentary flight kit and gifts for the children.....

Identify the airline, the equipment and the two cities in South America served nonstop from Miami by this air carrier.

23. In 1994, this airline was said to be the first U.S. air carrier operating only international routes (no domestic service) since the U.S. airline industry was deregulated in 1978. The airline in question only operated one aircraft type. Name this air carrier and the equipment it operated. ANSWERED - USAfrica Airways operating the MD-11

24. In 1995, three airlines were operating nonstop service from Providenciales in the Turks & Caicos Islands to Miami. Two of these air carriers operated different types of jet equipment while the third operated a turboprop aircraft. Identify all three airlines and the respective aircraft types they operated from PLS to MIA.

The next five quiz items all have a time line of 1996......

25. You are in Monterrey, Mexico and are on your way to London Heathrow via a connection with both flights operated by the same airline. Your first flight only operates once a week nonstop to your connecting city where you will have one hour and eleven minutes to connect to a daily nonstop service to LHR. Name the air carrier, the connecting city and both aircraft types. ANSWERED

26. Now you need to travel from the London area to Dublin. Your meeting took place in Greenwich so the most convenient airport for you is London City. Ah, here's a nonstop flight departing mid-morning from LCY to DUB. And my goodness, it appears business class is offered in addition to coach. Identify the airline and the equipment. ANSWERED

27. Once again you are back in Vancouver and this time you are on your way to Lima, Peru. There's no direct service from YVR to LIM these days so a connection will be required. And one airline has told you they can get you there all the way in the front cabin via two different nonstop flights both operated on a daily basis with each flight featuring the same aircraft type. You'll also have two hours and five minutes to make your convenient connection. Name the airline, the connecting city and the equipment. ANSWERED

28. Two airlines were operating nonstop service from Los Angeles to Moscow at this time. Neither flight operated on a daily basis but the same aircraft type was operated on these services. Name both air carriers and the aircraft type. ANSWERED

29. "So how the heck are we going to get to Grand Cayman?!" That's the question posed by your old sailboat buddy as you finish your dinner in Berlin. You have a plan, of course, as one airline has told you they can get you there via a convenient connection. Your first flight will depart from Berlin Tegel (TXF) in the morning nonstop to your connecting airport and is actually a code share service for the airline you will be flying on later that day. You will then have two hours and five minutes to connect to your nonstop flight to Grand Cayman. Your first flight will be on board a narrow body jet and your second flight will be on board a wide body. Identify the airline operating the first flight, the connecting airport, the airline operating the second flight and the equipment operated on each flight. ANSWERED

30. It's 1997 and you are in Kansas City. You are on your way to London and a connection will be required. Fortunately, the two different airlines you're flying with have a close business relationship and your first flight nonstop to your connecting city is operated on code sharing basis for the airline that will fly you into London. You'll also have one hour and 50 minutes to make your connection from a narrow body jet to the wide body airplane that will take you nonstop to London. Name both airlines, the connecting city, the airport you will arrive into in London and both aircraft types. ANSWERED

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Old May 19, 20, 11:37 am
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26. Now you need to travel from the London area to Dublin. Your meeting took place in Greenwich so the most convenient airport for you is London City. Ah, here's a nonstop flight departing mid-morning from LCY to DUB. And my goodness, it appears business class is offered in addition to coach. Identify the airline and the equipment.
Guess #1 :

CityJet using a BAe 146.
If it was before July it would have been marketed as a Virgin Atlantic (VS) flight operated by CityJet.
After July using their own code. Was it still WX back then?

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18. Only one airline was operating Boeing 747 service into London Gatwick at this time with only one daily nonstop flight. Name the air carrier that operated this flight into LGW as well as the airport it departed from.
I can think of more than one contender but I'll try this to start:

Northwest from Boston BOS
(service started June 1980)

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Originally Posted by KT550 View Post
Guess #1 :

CityJet using a BAe 146.
If it was before July it would have been marketed as a Virgin Atlantic (VS) flight operated by CityJet.
After July using their own code. Was it still WX back then?

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26. City Jet is correct! And they were indeed using the WX code at this time plus this service also used the Aer Lingus code (EI*) as a code sharing flight. Here's the sched....

WX 805 / EI* 805: London City (LCY) 10:45a - 11:50a Dublin (DUB)
Freq: Mondays through Thursdays only
Service classes: C/Y
Equip: BAe 146
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I can think of more than one contender but I'll try this to start:

Northwest from Boston BOS
(service started June 1980)
18. Ah, it wasn't Northwest from Boston. Please guess again, sir!
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2. It's 1963 and you are in Aruba. You need to travel to New York City on business and will be flying on an airline that offers connecting service. Your first flight operates five days a week nonstop to your connecting city with the equipment configured with an all-coach single class cabin. The second flight operates nonstop to NYC on a daily basis with a first and coach two class cabin. Both flights operate with different aircraft types. Name the air carrier, the connecting city and both aircraft types.
2- I think the southern Caribbean geography would have supported flights between AUA and northern South America ... how about VIASA with a DC-6 to Caracas (CCS), followed by a Convair 880 to Idlewild (IDL)

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25. You are in Monterrey, Mexico and are on your way to London Heathrow via a connection with both flights operated by the same airline. Your first flight only operates once a week nonstop to your connecting city where you will have one hour and eleven minutes to connect to a daily nonstop service to LHR. Name the air carrier, the connecting city and both aircraft types.
25- 1x/week service out of MTY suggests the connecting point wasn't in the U.S. or Mexico, and I can't think of any Caribbean nations whose airlines would have served both MTY and LHR ... so I'll offer that it was in Canada, specifically Toronto (YYZ); let''s try Air Canada with a DC-9-30 connecting to a 767
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18. Ah, it wasn't Northwest from Boston. Please guess again, sir!
Braniff Int'l from Dallas DFW
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7. If you wanted to fly on board a de Havilland Comet from Helsinki nonstop to London at this time, what airline would you call?

Let's start with the obvious choice - BEA

8. Now you are in Montreal and need to travel to San Antonio for a meeting. Well, you figure at least one connection will be required....but then you find a direct flight with no change of plane service which will make three stops en route. Name the air carrier, all three stops in order and the aircraft.

When I hear Montreal and San Antonio in the same sentence, I think Eastern Airlines. As to the route, let's try Montreal - New York JFK - Atlanta - Houston - San Antonio aboard a Boeing 720
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2- I think the southern Caribbean geography would have supported flights between AUA and northern South America ... how about VIASA with a DC-6 to Caracas (CCS), followed by a Convair 880 to Idlewild (IDL)

25- 1x/week service out of MTY suggests the connecting point wasn't in the U.S. or Mexico, and I can't think of any Caribbean nations whose airlines would have served both MTY and LHR ... so I'll offer that it was in Canada, specifically Toronto (YYZ); let''s try Air Canada with a DC-9-30 connecting to a 767
2. Your off to a fairly good start here as the first flight was indeed operated by a DC-6 (actually a DC-6B) and the second flight arrived into Idlewild.

However, the air carrier wasn't VIASA, the connection was not made at Caracas and the second flight was not operated with a Convair 880.

25. Another good start as the connection was indeed made in Toronto to a 767 (which sets us up for a tap-in here).

However, it wasn't Air Canada and the first flight wasn't operated with a DC9-30.
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