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I should have flown TS last winter for one last trip in an A310 but never got round to it.
Today is the first day of the winter schedules (our clocks went back one hour this morning).
Gatwick welcomed a new airline today, Jazeera Airways from Kuwait with an A320 neo. Doesn't sound like a fun way to spend 6+ hours.
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Presumably you'll have a balcony. The sprinklers were added above the balconies in the aftermath of the fire. Remarkably, the ship was back in service within 7 weeks, including getting the ship to Germany for repairs.
Great fare of C$686 for 2 (4 nts - day stop in Victoria). Hard to get up from Los Angeles by air for that much.
I'd wave at you as the ship passes Esquimalt but it'll be dark and you'll probably be having dinner anyway.
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This'll be my first cruise - I'm definitely looking forward to the mini-suite life. Hope the weather enroute warrants some balcony time.
I'll be joined on this cruise by fellow FTer fti who just happened to be in the area and apparently has some Princess perks from past employment with them.
I also look forward to coming up with a new batch of questions upon my return later this year.
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I had to look up Esquimalt and yeah, I'd say unless Princess has upgraded the engines on the Star Princess to achieve speeds akin to the Norwegian navy's Skjold-class corvettes (60 kts), I won't be waving at you if we pass Esquimalt.
This'll be my first cruise - I'm definitely looking forward to the mini-suite life. Hope the weather enroute warrants some balcony time.
This'll be my first cruise - I'm definitely looking forward to the mini-suite life. Hope the weather enroute warrants some balcony time.
Since the ship has been sailing U.S. water regularly this past Alaska season, and it's departing from Canada, there won't be any USCG check for the crew to have to prepare for. Resulted in an absolute gong show when we left San Pedro as the ship had come in the same morning from South America. Onboard service was pretty much disrupted for the whole 4-night trip (or maybe it a a full ship).
Too late in the season but we saw a fair number of humpback whales following the spring migration up in late March/early April (on the Star Princess) and fall migration heading south in early October on another ship headed for Chile. Sun is of course going to be on the port side AM and starboard PM.
Should be no sea fog and from the forecast, it looks like you will have sunny skies leaving Vancouver, and it's sunny in Astoria through the 2nd and sunny in SF through the weekend.
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In honour of Seat2As inaugural sea voyage, and in the spirit of this thread,
Name one passenger steamship company that also operated a scheduled airline (I can think of one but are there others?)
Name one passenger steamship company that also operated a scheduled airline (I can think of one but are there others?)
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Cunard comes to mind right away; they had some collaborative operations with BOAC (and British Eagle? ... paging WHBM) in the late 1950s/early 1960s ... of course there was also Carnival in the U.S and Caribbean markets during the early to mid 1990s, but somehow I think "cruise ship operator" isn't quite what you meant by "steamship company"
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Cunard comes to mind right away; they had some collaborative operations with BOAC (and British Eagle? ... paging WHBM) in the late 1950s/early 1960s ... of course there was also Carnival in the U.S and Caribbean markets during the early to mid 1990s, but somehow I think "cruise ship operator" isn't quite what you meant by "steamship company"
For a (non-airline) bonus: What is the Canadian connection with Cunard?
More specifically, I was looking for a steamship company operated the airline as a wholly-owned subsidiary. I have to mention that the steamship company's original and main line of business (which it is still in) wasn't steamships (out of the shipping business today).
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More specifically, I was looking for a steamship company operated the airline as a wholly-owned subsidiary. I have to mention that the steamship company's original and main line of business (which it is still in) wasn't steamships (out of the shipping business today).
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But of course (and/but are there any others?) Topical given you're leaving from its Pacific home port. The answer ties into your cruise as the Princess cruise line adopted its name as the first ship the line used (Princess Patricia) was a charter from CP steamships. That ship sailed up the B.C. coast and into Alaska into the early 80s. Tiny compared to tbe Star Princess.
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But of course (and/but are there any others?) Topical given you're leaving from its Pacific home port. The answer ties into your cruise as the Princess cruise line adopted its name as the first ship the line used (Princess Patricia) was a charter from CP steamships. That ship sailed up the B.C. coast and into Alaska into the early 80s. Tiny compared to tbe Star Princess.
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Found another airline that was also operated by a passenger shipping company.
Airline - passenger ship question 2
This (hint: European) airline was eventually merged with another airline into one that operated as its nation's second main carrier, and eventually merged into the nation's main carrier..
Airline - passenger ship question 2
This (hint: European) airline was eventually merged with another airline into one that operated as its nation's second main carrier, and eventually merged into the nation's main carrier..
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Airline passenger ship question 3.
And yet another (I should have thought of it given its name) with the caveat that the predecessor shipping companies had long abandoned passenger transportation by the time the airline was founded.
This airline was founded to carry passengers to and from its parent's cruise ships, and as a holiday/leisure charter airline but eventually operated scheduled service. It was the first airline to operate the immediate predecessor to the troubled sub-type of this aircraft (the main airline of its nation was the very first operator of this line of aircraft).
And yet another (I should have thought of it given its name) with the caveat that the predecessor shipping companies had long abandoned passenger transportation by the time the airline was founded.
This airline was founded to carry passengers to and from its parent's cruise ships, and as a holiday/leisure charter airline but eventually operated scheduled service. It was the first airline to operate the immediate predecessor to the troubled sub-type of this aircraft (the main airline of its nation was the very first operator of this line of aircraft).
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Found another airline that was also operated by a passenger shipping company. Airline - passenger ship question 2
This (hint: European) airline was eventually merged with another airline into one that operated as its nation's second main carrier, and eventually merged into the nation's main carrier..
This (hint: European) airline was eventually merged with another airline into one that operated as its nation's second main carrier, and eventually merged into the nation's main carrier..
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Airline passenger ship question 3.
And yet another (I should have thought of it given its name) with the caveat that the predecessor shipping companies had long abandoned passenger transportation by the time the airline was founded.
This airline was founded to carry passengers to and from its parent's cruise ships, and as a holiday/leisure charter airline but eventually operated scheduled service. It was the first airline to operate the immediate predecessor to the troubled sub-type of this aircraft (the main airline of its nation was the very first operator of this line of aircraft).
And yet another (I should have thought of it given its name) with the caveat that the predecessor shipping companies had long abandoned passenger transportation by the time the airline was founded.
This airline was founded to carry passengers to and from its parent's cruise ships, and as a holiday/leisure charter airline but eventually operated scheduled service. It was the first airline to operate the immediate predecessor to the troubled sub-type of this aircraft (the main airline of its nation was the very first operator of this line of aircraft).
As for me, it's time to catch my ride to the ship, so all the best to you all and I'll check back in on November 4th ^
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Didn't think about Maersk but that's a good answer and another for the list (to be added to the list of answers for airlines similar to the answer for Question 3). Not sure Maersk line or its predecessors operated scheduled passenger service (I have to look it up), and it doesn't seem have been doing so.when the airline was formed.
The airline in my question 2 appeared to have operated the very first type of jetliner before it was merged. Part of the reason for the airline's formation was to connect not only far-flung colonies but commercial destinations of the colonies of other empires.
The airline in my question 2 appeared to have operated the very first type of jetliner before it was merged. Part of the reason for the airline's formation was to connect not only far-flung colonies but commercial destinations of the colonies of other empires.