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Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion

Old Jul 22, 19, 10:26 am
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Originally Posted by jrl767 View Post
21- ok, with that hint about a stop between SEA and DFW, let's try a reincarnated Braniff operating via their Kansas City (MCI) hub

Braniff, yes. Kansas City, no.
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Old Jul 22, 19, 11:18 am
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16. (1988) It’s not often that business calls for you to travel from your home office outside Atlanta, Georgia to the far-flung regional office in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. When it did recently, you were pleased to discover a two-stop direct flight from Atlanta that would put you into Sioux Falls early in the afternoon. You quickly book it and make a note to pack a sandwich since no meals will be offered enroute. Name the airline, the two intermediate stops and the aircraft type you’ll be flying.
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30. (1988) You need to fly from Nassau in the Bahamas up to Hartford, Connecticut. To your surprise, the market is served by a single once daily direct flight that makes just one stop along the way. You quickly book yourself a First Class seat. Which airline will you be flying with? And while we’re at it, what’s the enroute stop and what type of aircraft will you be flying upon?
16. Let's go with a TWA D9S operating Atlanta - St. Louis - Omaha - Sioux Falls.

30. I'll guess this was TWA with 72S service Nassau - New York JFK - Hartford.
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Old Jul 22, 19, 2:09 pm
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What a pleasant summer evening, nice temperature, dinner in the garden, for once clear skies, then a slowly rising gentle Zuuuuumzuuuuumzuuuuum of distant but slightly unsynchronised propellers. Not a Q400 out of London City, but I scan skywards, and there it is, heading slowly due westwards directly overhead at altitude. There's only one thing that sounds like that, it's a Ukrainian 4-prop Antonov 12 at 21,000 feet. Built 1971, 48 years young. It left Plovdiv in Bulgaria this afternoon, stopped at Frankfurt Hahn, and passed overhead on its way to Shannon, which quite likely means it will be heading out across the Atlantic.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ur-cjn

** EDIT **

And amazingly, an hour later, a second An-12, just as noisy, on quite a different track, Vitoria in Spain to Paris then Birmingham, heading northwards crosses the route of the first one right overhead here

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ur-cnn
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Old Jul 22, 19, 8:29 pm
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21. (1988) You need to fly from Seattle to New York, but since your brother lives in Flushing Meadows, the best airport for you to fly into is New York’s LaGuardia. Unfortunately there are no nonstops between Seattle and LGA. In fact, all of the airlines – with one exception – serve either JFK or EWR with either nonstop or direct flights. The one exception that serves LGA makes two stops enroute. Hmm… Well, at least you won’t be faced with any long layovers or potentially missed flights. Plus, the flight offers a couple of snacks enroute. Book it, Danno! Airline, stops and aircraft please!

This is a tough question. By 1988, several airlines had major hubs offering connecting flights resulting in a change of planes in, say, Chicago O'Hare or St. Louis or Detroit, etc. Some airlines had the bad practice, in my opinion, of having "direct" flights that had change of planes, which meant an equal chance of a missed connection compared to having a connecting flight. These fake direct flights were to secure a higher listing in the airline reservation systems.

My first try would be at Delta Air Lines, Boeing 727-200, SEA - DFW - ATL - LGA


You're right - this is a tough question because it could be any number of airlines. It was not Delta. Let's make it easier. The aircraft was indeed a 727-200 and the flight did stop in Dallas... You're off to a great start, T! Finish this one off!
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Braniff (Braniff 2), SEA - LAS - DFW - LGA. Boeing 727-200
Seattle was sort of dropped as a spoke and added to LAS. I am reasonably certain of this.

Some airlines, I am not sorry to see go away, like Skybus or Vanguard. Some, I am sorry to see go away, like Braniff 2, Braniff International, Midwest Express, and TWA.
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Old Jul 23, 19, 12:43 am
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Originally Posted by jlemon View Post
16. (1988) It’s not often that business calls for you to travel from your home office outside Atlanta, Georgia to the far-flung regional office in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. When it did recently, you were pleased to discover a two-stop direct flight from Atlanta that would put you into Sioux Falls early in the afternoon. You quickly book it and make a note to pack a sandwich since no meals will be offered enroute. Name the airline, the two intermediate stops and the aircraft type you’ll be flying.

Let's go with a TWA D9S operating Atlanta - St. Louis - Omaha - Sioux Falls.

Everything is correctexcept for Omaha. Switch that out for the correct city and you're home free

30. (1988) You need to fly from Nassau in the Bahamas up to Hartford, Connecticut. To your surprise, the market is served by a single once daily direct flight that makes just one stop along the way. You quickly book yourself a First Class seat. Which airline will you be flying with? And while we’re at it, what’s the enroute stop and what type of aircraft will you be flying upon?

I'll guess this was TWA with 72S service Nassau - New York JFK - Hartford.

This sounds oh so very reasonable, but NO! The airline we're looking for was not TWA and the aircraft was not a 727-200. Please, guess again!
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Old Jul 23, 19, 12:49 am
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Originally Posted by Toshbaf View Post
21. (1988) You need to fly from Seattle to New York, but since your brother lives in Flushing Meadows, the best airport for you to fly into is New York’s LaGuardia. Unfortunately there are no nonstops between Seattle and LGA. In fact, all of the airlines – with one exception – serve either JFK or EWR with either nonstop or direct flights. The one exception that serves LGA makes two stops enroute. Hmm… Well, at least you won’t be faced with any long layovers or potentially missed flights. Plus, the flight offers a couple of snacks enroute. Book it, Danno! Airline, stops and aircraft please!

Braniff (Braniff 2), SEA - LAS - DFW - LGA. Boeing 727-200

Seattle was sort of dropped as a spoke and added to LAS. I am reasonably certain of this.


Braniff via LAS and DFW is correct, Toshbaf! Here's the schedule...

Braniff BN 572 Seattle (SEA) 1035a-1247p S Las Vegas (LAS) 120p-556p S Dallas (DFW) 630p-1058p S New York (LGA) 727-200
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Old Jul 23, 19, 1:26 am
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… a Ukrainian 4-prop Antonov 12 at 21,000 feet. Built 1971, 48 years young. It left Plovdiv in Bulgaria this afternoon, stopped at Frankfurt Hahn, and passed overhead on its way to Shannon, which quite likely means it will be heading out across the Atlantic.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ur-cjn
It's got to St Johns, Newfoundland this morning. Any guesses where it's going ?
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Old Jul 23, 19, 2:53 am
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It's got to St Johns, Newfoundland this morning. Any guesses where it's going ?
Inuvik, Yukon Territory would be my best guess. Second choice: Tuktoyukyuk, NT
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Inuvik, Yukon Territory would be my best guess. Second choice: Tuktoyukyuk, NT
Well, if so it's going the long way round. It's left St Johns. headed for … Greenville/Spartanburg SC. Which I recall from long ago was an Eastern stop.

Anyone looking out for it on the way ? Is it going to overfly New York City and DC ?
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Old Jul 23, 19, 8:26 am
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Well, if so it's going the long way round. It's left St Johns. headed for … Greenville/Spartanburg SC. Which I recall from long ago was an Eastern stop.

Anyone looking out for it on the way ? Is it going to overfly New York City and DC ?
I happened to look up the flight when I saw this. I'm in Trenton and it's passing north of me.
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I happened to look up the flight when I saw this. I'm in Trenton and it's passing north of me.
Look out jlemon ! The Antonov is a' comin' right for you. Quick stop in Greenville and it's headed on to Houston, passing right across Louisiana. Listen out for those booming propellers.

I just wonder how much this cargo charter is costing somebody !

And I hope they got a crew change or two along the way - they've been running pretty much without much of a break since leaving Bulgaria, more than 30 hours beforehand.

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Look out jlemon ! The Antonov is a' comin' right for you. Quick stop in Greenville and it's headed on to Houston, passing right across Louisiana. Listen out for those booming propellers.

I just wonder how much this cargo charter is costing somebody !

And I hope they got a crew change or two along the way - they've been running pretty much without much of a break since leaving Bulgaria, more than 30 hours beforehand.
I've alerted some friends at the Louisiana ANG 159th FW (formerly the "Coona$$ Militia" and now the "Bayou Militia") based at the Belle Chasse JRB located across the river from New Orleans. And I'm sure it will be no problem for them to launch a couple of F-15 "Eagles" for a practice intercept of the Antonov 12......
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A View Post


16. (1988) It’s not often that business calls for you to travel from your home office outside Atlanta, Georgia to the far-flung regional office in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. When it did recently, you were pleased to discover a two-stop direct flight from Atlanta that would put you into Sioux Falls early in the afternoon. You quickly book it and make a note to pack a sandwich since no meals will be offered enroute. Name the airline, the two intermediate stops and the aircraft type you’ll be flying.
Please see Post 15978
One last guess....TWA operating a D9S Atlanta - St. Louis - Lincoln - Sioux Falls.
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I've alerted some friends at the Louisiana ANG 159th FW (formerly the "Coona$$ Militia" and now the "Bayou Militia") based at the Belle Chasse JRB located across the river from New Orleans. And I'm sure it will be no problem for them to launch a couple of F-15 "Eagles" for a practice intercept of the Antonov 12......
Hold it, boys ! DON'T shoot down a classic 4-engined Propliner. This thread could never live it down …

In passing, we had a Lockheed Connie come across to Europe about 10 years ago. I saw it at Duxford. On the return they set off from Shannon, were about an hour out, and got an engine failure, so called up for a return to start point on three. Whereupon an RAF Hercules announced they had, completely without notice, been using it as a covert tracking exercise, with all their "clever" kit, and were about 2 miles behind them, visual. So they escorted them back.

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Old Jul 23, 19, 8:45 pm
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Originally Posted by jlemon View Post
16. (1988) It’s not often that business calls for you to travel from your home office outside Atlanta, Georgia to the far-flung regional office in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. When it did recently, you were pleased to discover a two-stop direct flight from Atlanta that would put you into Sioux Falls early in the afternoon. You quickly book it and make a note to pack a sandwich since no meals will be offered enroute. Name the airline, the two intermediate stops and the aircraft type you’ll be flying.

One last guess....TWA operating a D9S Atlanta - St. Louis - Lincoln - Sioux Falls.

Ah c'mon, JL - you're so close! It's not Lincoln, but it's just down the road a piece from LNK. You're bound to get it this time...
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