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Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion

Old Jun 25, 19, 11:09 am
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Originally Posted by Toshbaf View Post
15. Now it's time to head to Los Angeles from Omaha. There's a nonstop flight departing OMA at 11:20 am which arrives into LAX at 12:25 pm and lunch will be served en route. Identify the airline and the equipment.

United Airlines, Boeing 727-200
15. Nope, the air carrier wasn't United and the aircraft type wasn't a B727-222.....
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Old Jun 25, 19, 11:29 am
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Originally Posted by WHBM View Post
National, with a leased Pan Am 707-121.

I'll say the first flight was on a BOAC Viscount 700, operated as Bahamas Airways, to Nassau, and if it made an intermediate stop likely at Ft Lauderdale. Second leg would be on "real" BOAC flight, also on a Viscount and most likely the same aircraft operating through. Probably same crew as well. Intermediate stop to Kingston - Montego Bay ?

BOAC had quite a large fleet of Viscount 700s, bought new, which hardly operated any BOAC flights but ran for various airlines around the world they either had shares in or owned outright. Bahamas Airways, BWIA, Aden Airways, Kuwait Airways etc all shared this fleet, which were moved around between them from time to time. BOAC crews on secondment at all of them. Bahamas = great; Aden = desperate.
Hello WHBM! Hope all is well with you and the family.....and next time I journey over to London, perhaps we can dine at a certain Chinese restaurant which has a fine view of LCY.....and, oh by the way, you are correct with both of your answers!

1. Here's a link to a print ad run by National Airlines in 1959 concerning its nonstop Boeing 707 service between New York City and Miami....

NAnewyorkmiami135minutes59

2. Here are the Bahamas Airways (BH) and BOAC (BA) schedules which appeared in a Bahamas Airways timetable dated Dec. 15, 1961....

BH 452: West Palm Beach (PBI) 12:45p - 1:05p Fort Lauderdale (FLL) 1:30p - 2:20p Nassau (NAS)
Freq: Mondays and Fridays only
Equip: Viscount

Connecting to....

BA 461: Nassau (NAS) 3:00p - 4:45p Montego Bay (MBJ) 5:15p - 5:45p Kingston (KIN)
Freq: Mondays and Fridays only
Equip: Viscount
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Old Jun 25, 19, 1:39 pm
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And American Airlines has now announced the retirement date for the remaining MD-80 ("Super 80") aircraft in its fleet.

AA reportedly has 26 MD-80 airplanes still in service at the present time. I believe that some of these remaining aircraft came from TWA as I saw an AA MD-80 with a tail number ending in "TW" a couple of weeks ago as I was connecting via DFW. I also believe American operated over 360 MD-80 aircraft at one point (and also briefly flew MD-87 and MD-90 airplanes inherited from Reno Air).

The airline says the final "Super 80" revenue flight will take place on September 4. Here's the sched.....

AA 80: Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) 9:00a - 11:35a Chicago O'Hare (ORD)

American also stated all of the remaining MD-80s in its fleet will then be sent to Roswell (ROW) where it has been sending retired aircraft for quite some time now.

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Old Jun 25, 19, 2:21 pm
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18- well, both the 727 and 72S seem a little pedestrian, so let’s upgauge to a 747
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Old Jun 25, 19, 5:10 pm
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Originally Posted by jrl767 View Post
18- well, both the 727 and 72S seem a little pedestrian, so let’s upgauge to a 747
18. Correct! Here's the complete schedule for this service....

NW 703: Tampa (TPA) 4:00p - 5:35p Milwaukee (MKE) 6:20p - 7:21p Minneapolis/St. Paul (MSP)
Freq: Daily
Service classes: F/Y
Meal service: Dinner TPA-MKE
Equip: 747

BTW, in addition to the above flight, Northwest was operating two other daily 747 flights serving Milwaukee at this time with round trip routing of MSP-MKE-JFK. The daily nonstop flight from MKE to TPA was operated with a DC-10 by NW.
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Old Jun 25, 19, 7:45 pm
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Originally Posted by jlemon View Post
12. An excellent guess as Eastern was indeed operating nonstop service twice daily from Orlando (MCO) to Fort Lauderdale (FLL) at this time. However, these EA flights were respectively operated with B727-200 and DC9-30 equipment.....so please guess again!
In that case, how about Southern? That should have been a few years before its merger into Republic.
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Old Jun 25, 19, 8:08 pm
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7. It's been a fine Sunday evening in 1968 featuring a superb dinner with old friends in Manhattan....and then the phone rings. Can you travel to La Paz, Bolivia as soon as possible for a very urgent meeting scheduled for Monday afternoon? You quickly ascertain there's a flight departing JFK at 12:45 am very early on Monday that will get you into LPB at 10:45 am with one intermediate stop being made. You book a seat in first class. Name the air carrier, the stop and the equipment.
7- this pretty much has to be Braniff International operating via Lima (LIM) with a DC-8
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Old Jun 25, 19, 8:38 pm
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Originally Posted by jlemon View Post
15. Nope, the air carrier wasn't United and the aircraft type wasn't a B727-222.....
15. Oh! This is going to mean running from ticket counter to ticket counter asking "does your airline fly to LAX nonstop?".

Next try: American Airlines, Boeing 727-100
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Old Jun 26, 19, 12:16 pm
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Originally Posted by strickerj View Post


In that case, how about Southern? That should have been a few years before its merger into Republic.
12. Correct!

Southern was operating three DC9-10 flights a day from Orlando (MCO) to Fort Lauderdale (FLL) at this time. Here are the scheds....

SO 231: MCO 10:45a - 11:22a FLL
Freq: Daily except Sundays
Complete routing: TLH-MCO-FLL

SO 225: MCO 5:45p - 6:22p FLL
Freq: Daily
Complete routing: ATL-PFN-TLH-MCO-FLL

SO 239: MCO 8:40p - 9:17p FLL
Freq: Daily
Complete routing: STL-MEM-BHM-MCO-FLL
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Originally Posted by jrl767 View Post
7- this pretty much has to be Braniff International operating via Lima (LIM) with a DC-8
7. Correct! And this wasn't an interchange flight operated in conjunction with Eastern, National or Pan Am. Here's the complete sched......

BN 971: New York (JFK) 12:45a - 7:30a Lima (LIM) 8:15a - 10:45a La Paz (LPB) 11:30a - 2:30p Buenos Aires (EZE)
Freq: Mondays only
Service classes: F/Y
Meal services: Snack after departure from JFK, Breakfast prior to arrival at LIM, Breakfast for LIM boarding passengers only, Lunch LPB-EZE
Equip: DC-8-62

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Old Jun 26, 19, 12:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Toshbaf View Post
15. Oh! This is going to mean running from ticket counter to ticket counter asking "does your airline fly to LAX nonstop?".

Next try: American Airlines, Boeing 727-100
15. Correct! Here's the sched....

AA 631: Omaha (OMA) 11:20a - 12:25p Los Angeles (LAX)
Freq: Daily
Service classes: F/Y
Meal service: Lunch
Equip: 727
Complete routing: LGA-ORD-DSM-OMA-LAX
Note: AA 631 effective March 2, 1976

This service marked the first time American had operated a nonstop flight between Omaha and Los Angeles as well as a direct one stop service between Des Moines and Los Angeles via OMA. By 1981, AA had ceased serving Omaha completely but would then return to OMA a few years later following the demise of Braniff International.

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Old Jun 26, 19, 7:09 pm
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6. Caribair flying the DC-9-30. I'm assuming they would have flown into SLU. Not sure about the stops.
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Originally Posted by ysolde View Post
6. Caribair flying the DC-9-30. I'm assuming they would have flown into SLU. Not sure about the stops.
6. Caribair operating a DC-9-30 in all-coach configuration into St. Lucia Vigie Airport (SLU, now George F.L. Charles Airport) is correct; however, as we do greatly prefer complete answers here, we shall keep this one in play as we are still looking for all four stops in the order in which they were made.

The primary jet airport on St. Lucia has always been and currently still is Hewanorra International Airport (UVF) which began life as Beane Army Airfield during World War II when it was used by the U.S. Army Air Force. I believe it was then renamed Beane Air Force Base before being decommissioned and subsequently turned into a civilian airfield.

However, Hewanorra is located in a somewhat remote area of St. Lucia a fair distance away from Castries, the capital city on the island. Vigie Airport/George F.L. Charles Airport, on the other hand, is located just over a mile north of Castries. It is also a compact little airfield located immediately adjacent to the main highway with the Caribbean Sea off one end of the runway and a hill located not too far from the other end. Here's an aerial view of SLU taken from a Dash 8 on final:

https://www.airliners.net/photo/-/-/...9oZvmTIj9nynBo

I checked out SLU some years ago while visiting St. Lucia (we arrived by sailboat at a dock near the airport and thus not by air) and it sure looked like a challenging airfield to operate jet service into.

And here's a BONUS quiz question.....

What was the largest jetliner type ever operated into SLU in scheduled passenger service and what airline operated it?
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Old Jun 27, 19, 1:55 pm
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welcome to the Quiz, ysolde!
6- I’ll try to tap this one (well, these four) in —
  1. St Thomas (STT)
  2. St Croix (STX)
  3. St Maarten (SXM)
  4. Antigua (ANU)
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Old Jun 27, 19, 2:54 pm
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Originally Posted by jrl767 View Post
welcome to the Quiz, ysolde!
6- Iíll try to tap this one (well, these four) in ó
  1. St Thomas (STT)
  2. St Croix (STX)
  3. St Maarten (SXM)
  4. Antigua (ANU)
6. Looks like a clean sweep to me as you are correct! Here's the complete sched....

CB 921: San Juan (SJU) 14:30 - 14:54 St. Thomas (STT) 15:15 - 15:35 St. Croix (STX) 16:00 - 16:25 St. Maarten (SXM) 17:10 Antigua (ANU) 17:30 - 18:10 St. Lucia (SLU) 18:30 - 19:00 Barbados (BGI) 19:20 - 20:00 Port of Spain (POS)
Freq: Daily
Service class: Y

Equip: DC-9-30
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