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burgler09 Jul 24, 2011 12:30 pm

You guys are also forgetting licenses with alcohol restrictions, that is a reason they will check for that too.

wolfie_cr Jul 24, 2011 1:06 pm

this is just one of the many instances when the US of A regularly shows me how terribly out of fashion 'common sense' is these days

I have even been told that "you have to show an ID of THIS country" to buy alcohol (I am 36 and while I think I am in good shape and look young ......by no means can I possibly look 21...........)

Interestingly enough, to me is the other way around, I get carded in places OTHER than airports (but come to think of it, until recently I always got booze in the airline lounges that have NEVER asked for an ID when asking for alcohol)

Also the US of A is the ONLY country I have been to where I've been carded (not that I've been to a gazillion but a decent share)

This carding thing and the tipping threads are enough to drive me insane :D

wolfie_cr Jul 24, 2011 1:09 pm


Originally Posted by t325 (Post 16787137)
It's even worse at Target. If you buy anything with a minimum age on it - alcohol, M rated video games, canned air (people get high off of it? :confused:), etc, their register forces them to scan the barcode on the back of your drivers license, so everyone gets carded.

I'm 25 (and don't really look any older than that) and I can't remember the last time I was carded for buying alcohol at a bar or grocery store. But sure enough at Target, I had to give them my ID to scan when I bought L.A. Noire a couple months ago. It made me feel like I was 17 again ;)

That sounds AWESOME, I wonder what they would do since my drivers license, nor national ID card NOR passport has such a barcode to scan, can't wait for my next trip to the US to try that! LOL

cordelli Jul 24, 2011 1:12 pm

In addition to all of the above reasons, it could just be local code that everybody has to show an ID, no matter how old they are.

There are some places too that will scan the ID, so that proof of age is tied to that purchase. I'm not a huge fan of that because there's other stuff on the bar code than just your age, but that's why they barcode ID's now.

wolfie_cr Jul 24, 2011 1:12 pm

See? I am already on my 3rd post on this thread which is a pet peeve of mine.........


If you don't get mad at people doing dumb things you are either dead OR you are a politician


Originally Posted by CPRich (Post 16787082)
I'm quite surprised/disappointed at the hostility towards an employee doing their job, likely following mandates of their employers, enforcing the law. If you don't like it, call the manager/corporate HQ. Life's too short to be so petty, IMHO.

I find it amusing. If you get mad at people doing dumb things, your life is going to suck.


goodeats21 Jul 24, 2011 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by djs (Post 16786725)
This also could be because of a particular bar's liability insurance. If they tell their agent that they will ID everybody without exception then the chances of serving someone underage are greatly reduced (left to the standard good fake ID or someone buying for someone else). This may result in a lower rate; if the insurance agent/company finds that this isn't really the process then the rates might shoot up.

Also, some states or cities/towns may have regulations that say something along the lines of "everyone who appears to be under 30 years of age must show an ID to purchase alcohol".

It likely is just easier to ID everyone. I have been to places where a manager could approve the sale so some places do have some sanity in their policies.

Lastly, it can be quite difficult/expensive to get a liquor license in some places; better to be safe than sorry when it comes to the monetary investment (likely over $200,000 in parts of Boston).

Undercover operation by police in local town this year had MANY businesses sell to an 18 year old. Best part, for several of the instances the server asked for ID, looked at the ID (which indicated 18 years of age) and then sold it anyway.

IMO...we are just training people not to think. :D

flying bookman Jul 24, 2011 1:28 pm

How many of you that are ticked off or tell people to copulate themselves are willing to lose your job to make someone else happy?

I used to work in a grocery store and the cashiers were subject to termination, arrest and a $1000 fine if they sold to an underage person. They would be fired, they would be arrested and their fine could be up to $1000. I'd card everyone, too.

They're doing their job, just as all of us are by getting on planes and flying to our next meeting.

It has nothing to do with their intelligence level, just their willingness to be unemployed.

wolfie_cr Jul 24, 2011 1:40 pm


Originally Posted by flying bookman (Post 16788643)

I used to work in a grocery store and the cashiers were subject to termination, arrest and a $1000 fine if they sold to an underage person. They would be fired, they would be arrested and their fine could be up to $1000. I'd card everyone, too.

They're doing their job, just as all of us are by getting on planes and flying to our next meeting.

It has nothing to do with their intelligence level, just their willingness to be unemployed.

Which is why, if you saw someone 80 years old (-/+ 10) you didn't card them , RIGHT?

OOPS , I missed the part where you said you would card EVERYONE......

WIRunner Jul 24, 2011 1:58 pm

in about 1999 the city where I lived enacted an ordinance at the request of a local grocery store chain. Everyone gets carded, no exceptions. There are still plenty of times when you won't get carded, but the fault moves from the buyer to the seller for civil penalties. (except in cases of fake ID). The city still goes and checks, and more than one bar, and more than one store has lost their licenses.

Do I care? I have more things to worry about than to get my license out. It resides next to my debit and credit card. Complaining shows more of a petty side of a DYKHOIA (and also a DYKWIA).

Those that are complaining, you can always just get a water. I hear that no one cards for that.

wolfie_cr Jul 24, 2011 2:04 pm


Originally Posted by WIRunner (Post 16788803)
in about 1999 the city where I lived enacted an ordinance at the request of a local grocery store chain. Everyone gets carded, no exceptions. There are still plenty of times when you won't get carded, but the fault moves from the buyer to the seller for civil penalties. (except in cases of fake ID). The city still goes and checks, and more than one bar, and more than one store has lost their licenses.

Do I care? I have more things to worry about than to get my license out. It resides next to my debit and credit card. Complaining shows more of a petty side of a DYKHOIA (and also a DYKWIA).

Those that are complaining, you can always just get a water. I hear that no one cards for that.

DYHAWB is the acronym you are looking for :)

(Do you have a working brain or do you really have to card someone that was born during WWII )

Another option to getting water is taking a plane (or buying one if you want to avoid the TSA 'see you naked machine'/'we will touch your junk') and go somewhere where they are not crazy yet

(If I was asked for an ID everytime I have the AUDACITY to order something with an alcohol level >0.01 ...........thanks to that marvelous grocery store........I would be sending hate letters to them every week )

KoKoBuddy Jul 24, 2011 2:11 pm

Friday night I'm out with my wife who is 6 years younger than me. We both order drinks at dinner. Wife is asked fo ID, as she almost always is. I go to get my wallet and the waiter - no more than 22, 23 YO - looks at me for a second or two and says, it's OK sir, I don't need to see yours.

OUCH! I'm officially and old dude.

LtKernelPanic Jul 24, 2011 2:17 pm


Originally Posted by wolfie_cr (Post 16788534)
That sounds AWESOME, I wonder what they would do since my drivers license, nor national ID card NOR passport has such a barcode to scan, can't wait for my next trip to the US to try that! LOL

A supervisor can override it.

FLgrr Jul 24, 2011 2:19 pm

In college I was the ID check person at one of the NFL stadiums. No show me the ID and prove your age, no beer. This was stated to be done so that it was proven any beer sold went to someone of legal age. Not consumed, just sold. Heck of a lot easier knowing everyone had to show it that I had to see it.if you fought over it too much, probably too drunk to be buying more.

Btw - I am not a football fan, not a fan of the team. It was just mu job so no sense saying who it was.

Palal Jul 24, 2011 2:58 pm

This is what you get for living in a puritan country.

davef139 Jul 24, 2011 3:12 pm


Originally Posted by djs (Post 16786743)
That's not an age thing, that's the government tracking your purchase because if you purchase enough of these medicines you can use them in the manufactuer of meth. There are cold medicines which don't contain pseudoephedrine that don't require you to show ID.

pse isn't put into OTC drugs anymore so you shouldn't need to be showing it anymore. The DEA had some strict regs on distribution and such of this.

As for carding everyone, the result of being busted for underage drinking can result in the liquor license being pulled for the establishment. Think of that Chili's in ORD not being able to sell, its a huge loss of revenue.

At my job if you get busted you have to pay the fine yourself, and it will result in termination.


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