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Is "Economy" A Euphemism for "Third Class"?
I mean, after all, we have First Class..doesn't that make Business class "Second Class" and Economy "Third Class"?
And if there is no Business Class, does that make Economy "Second Class"? Is it just a marketing thing? Who would want to be reminded that are getting the third and lowest tier service. Calling it "Economy" works much the way it does for cars..to imply a clever frugality. And this applies I think to the retention of "First Class" in the top tier of service, where people who use it DO want to be reminded that they are getting the highest available service. No matter what you call it, that's what it is though, isn't it? Train systems in Europe still do this, but airlines so far as I remember phased out the phrases "Third Class" and "Second Class" in the early 60's I think. |
Originally Posted by pinworm
(Post 15368140)
And if there is no Business Class, does that make Economy "Second Class"?
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"Economy" is a euphemism for "steerage."
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I actually haven't heard "Economy" in a while, for exactly that reason. Is Economy (i.e. cheap) better than 2nd or 3rd.
I usually hear either Coach or some airline-specific Marketing name. |
Originally Posted by CPRich
(Post 15368723)
I actually haven't heard "Economy" in a while ...
I usually hear either Coach ... Lone time ago, ships had three classes: Cabin, Tourist and Third. (At one time there was also Steerage, but it was eventually phased out. What remained of those rooms became low-end Third Class.) The marketing types tried to make customers feel good by renaming Third class as Tourist, then renaming second class (previously Tourist) as Cabin, and renaming first class (previously Cabin) as, you guessed it, First. I don't know if it made any difference when people decided what rooms to pay for, but it may have impressed some non-travelers when they heard "Yes, we were in Cabin Class on the Mauretania" or whatever. |
My father calls Economy/coach/whatever is at the very back of the plane "Reverse". He drives a manual.
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Originally Posted by pinworm
(Post 15368140)
Calling it "Economy" works much the way it does for cars..to imply a clever frugality.
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Originally Posted by nerd
(Post 15369316)
Getting from Point A to B at a fraction of the cost is more than just an implied frugality, no?
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Originally Posted by pinworm
(Post 15368140)
Train systems in Europe still do this, but airlines so far as I remember phased out the phrases "Third Class" and "Second Class" in the early 60's I think.
[1] Which is actually third class - second class was abolished without "moving up" third class prior to its renaming to "Standard". Neil |
Originally Posted by rjw242
(Post 15369471)
Depends on what you value. For most travelers you're correct - e.g. I'm not willing to spend an additional $50-200 per hour for meals and a more comfortable seat. But a small fraction see that as a bargain.
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Originally Posted by pacer142
(Post 15369503)
Which is actually third class - second class was abolished without "moving up" third class prior to its renaming to "Standard"
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Originally Posted by pinworm
(Post 15368140)
Is it just a marketing thing? Who would want to be reminded that are getting the third and lowest tier service. Calling it "Economy" works much the way it does for cars..to imply a clever frugality. And this applies I think to the retention of "First Class" in the top tier of service, where people who use it DO want to be reminded that they are getting the highest available service.
In my ideal world, premium economy would renamed as main cabin. And economy would be renamed as cattle class, at least for international flights with business class. |
Originally Posted by nerd
(Post 15369546)
Maybe they value it highly, but that doesn't change the definition of frugal.
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Originally Posted by rjw242
(Post 15370156)
Frugality is always relative. Discounted J is a steal compared to a private jet ;)
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Originally Posted by CPRich
(Post 15368723)
I actually haven't heard "Economy" in a while, for exactly that reason. Is Economy (i.e. cheap) better than 2nd or 3rd.
I usually hear either Coach or some airline-specific Marketing name. |
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