C for Y+SWU? do I look stupid?
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Exactly. I was boarding non-UA economy, but I had an exit row aisle seat. Walking back I see a pretty young lady sitting at the window. As soon as I sit down, she starts explaining that she is on her honeymoon and they couldn't get their seats together and blah blah blah... I'm guessing his seat is in the bathroom and trying to figure out how I'm going to get out of this situation. Turns out he's in 1A. Being the gentleman that I am...
But the "gentleman" in question is definitely a tool. I would rather give up my seat in C or F to sit in Y next to my SO than ask another C/F passanger to go to cattle class so my SO could come to C/F. I will always move around the same cabin class if someone asks (C or E+, well, expect for a middle seat in Y). I am still waiting for someone to come from C or F and ask me (when I am in Y) to take his/her seat!
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Anytime, anyone "demands" a seat swap, I hit the flight attendant button. If my seat is unoccupied, I sit down and state, let's get the flight attendant to sort this. If my seat is squatted, I say nothing until the flight attendant arrives.
The story in the OP just reinforces my approach.
The story in the OP just reinforces my approach.
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Every client and firm I've traveled for has a variant of the 6-hour rule. Sometimes it's "Six hours plus an expectation to work immediately upon arrival."
Keep in mind that most big firms don't pay anywhere near the "rack rate" you see in a generic search engine like Orbitz for int'l C. I know a couple of my past firms have had negotiated discounts in the 40% range on int'l C. Lesser, but certainly nontrivial, discounts on regular domestic Y travel as well.
Anyway, I usually attempt to be accommodating if someone politely asks for a seat swap as long as they've thought through their proposition and presented the logical option to me. (In other words, the seat swapper accepts the lesser seats in exchange for getting two together.)
I wouldn't have even explained as much as the OP did to justify not switching. How I got here is moot. I'm holding a C BP, your wife is holding Y, you need to go down to row 20 and offer Mr. 20H an upgrade.
Or, let your wife sit by herself in Y, and what kind of gentleman would do such a thing?
Keep in mind that most big firms don't pay anywhere near the "rack rate" you see in a generic search engine like Orbitz for int'l C. I know a couple of my past firms have had negotiated discounts in the 40% range on int'l C. Lesser, but certainly nontrivial, discounts on regular domestic Y travel as well.
Anyway, I usually attempt to be accommodating if someone politely asks for a seat swap as long as they've thought through their proposition and presented the logical option to me. (In other words, the seat swapper accepts the lesser seats in exchange for getting two together.)
I wouldn't have even explained as much as the OP did to justify not switching. How I got here is moot. I'm holding a C BP, your wife is holding Y, you need to go down to row 20 and offer Mr. 20H an upgrade.
Or, let your wife sit by herself in Y, and what kind of gentleman would do such a thing?
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#35
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haha...good one
But the "gentleman" in question is definitely a tool. I would rather give up my seat in C or F to sit in Y next to my SO than ask another C/F passanger to go to cattle class so my SO could come to C/F. I will always move around the same cabin class if someone asks (C or E+, well, expect for a middle seat in Y). I am still waiting for someone to come from C or F and ask me (when I am in Y) to take his/her seat!
But the "gentleman" in question is definitely a tool. I would rather give up my seat in C or F to sit in Y next to my SO than ask another C/F passanger to go to cattle class so my SO could come to C/F. I will always move around the same cabin class if someone asks (C or E+, well, expect for a middle seat in Y). I am still waiting for someone to come from C or F and ask me (when I am in Y) to take his/her seat!
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I have the full support of Miss Manners on this one
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This is why you never never EVER give someone a reason for your refusal - it's just ammunition for them to turn against you. A "No thank you" is your best option. Acceptable alternatives are "I'm sorry that won't be possible", with a press of the FA call button if the pest won't stop.
I have the full support of Miss Manners on this one
I have the full support of Miss Manners on this one
#38
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OK, if I am travelling with my wife and only one upgrade clears, there is no question about who is going to sit upstairs. I mean domestic tranqulity trumps all! The guy sounds like an idiot on all fronts.
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It has zippers galore and has been very durable for extensive travel. In fact, for a 1-night stay, I can get a change of clothes in there and not need a 2nd carryon... One of the more useful pieces of luggage I've ever bought...
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Get one of those faux-Swiss-army laptop bags. They're pretty ubiquitous now - there may even be knockoffs of knockoffs. I bought mine back in 2008 or so.
It has zippers galore and has been very durable for extensive travel. In fact, for a 1-night stay, I can get a change of clothes in there and not need a 2nd carryon... One of the more useful pieces of luggage I've ever bought...
It has zippers galore and has been very durable for extensive travel. In fact, for a 1-night stay, I can get a change of clothes in there and not need a 2nd carryon... One of the more useful pieces of luggage I've ever bought...
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Chances are, you could have also responded that the Federal government made a healthy profit on the bailout as well. The 'bailout' of large banks, has proven to be a moneymaker for the US.
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Trust me - its easier to just keep your mouth shut than try to explain the details. Yes, the Fed made a better return on the bailout than alot but that would just be inviting more ranting. Discussion on the banks should be added to the topics you just don't talk about (politics, religion, banks/bank bailout)
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I have a friend that works somewhere where there are times they might not want to advertise and his laptop bag has a logo but also has a flap that can pull out from behind it that goes over the logo and is velcroed. Nice and convenient you should see if your firm has any like that.
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I did on a SFO-LAX flight earlier this year. My UDU cleared at the gate but my wife's didn't (she is only a 2P). I was in 2B and she was in 6C so took the 3 steps back to row 6 and asked if 6B wanted to ride in 2B. He was so excited as he never rode in F before and kept saying thank you thank you, you're the coolest person in the world (probably still in college). But on longer flights, sorry, I'd probably have to swap seats with the wife. One of us in relative comfort and the other in E+ (note when I say 'one of us' its always her) for a few hours is worth it to avoid a few days of how if she can go through the pain of having children, I can sit in E+.
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Here are some more experiences from my part.
One time, I was in a emergency exit seat in E- on a 747. Along comes another passenger, wanting my seat (we were somehow double booked). We call a FA and she sorts it out. She comes back with a C class seat for me. I felt back for the person, so I gave them 4 drink tix...it was a transatlantic flight. They did not even thank me.
One time, I was in a emergency exit seat in E- on a 747. Along comes another passenger, wanting my seat (we were somehow double booked). We call a FA and she sorts it out. She comes back with a C class seat for me. I felt back for the person, so I gave them 4 drink tix...it was a transatlantic flight. They did not even thank me.