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Originally Posted by Jazzop
(Post 14267134)
A lot of people are suggesting that we simply purchase and use headsets/earplugs/music players in order to isolate us from someone else's annoying behavior. I'm curious how many of those people would also suggest that those who are annoyed by the behavior of smokers should simply buy a gasmask.
The bottom line is that someone is engaging in an annoying behavior that significantly disrupts our comfort and/or productivity. The offender should be stopped. Wake the .......s up. If they can't control the snoring, then they should be served a continuous supply of strong coffee until landing. If you were a bedwetter, wouldn't you resist the urge to sleep on an airplane so as not to create an unpleasant situation for yourself and those around you? Why should it be any different for snorers? you're on public transportation; deal with it. |
Originally Posted by deniah
(Post 14269610)
uncontrollable manifestation of anatomy/physiology. would you support banning those afflicted with tourettes as well?
you're on public transportation; deal with it. |
Originally Posted by Jazzop
(Post 14273056)
Those who have such disorders should have the common decency to reduce their disturbance to others by whatever means are available to them. It's not about "banning" people. It's about people exercising self-control. Ultimately, however, those with no self-control call for others to control them.
If you wake a sleeping person, and they go back to sleep, will you wake them again? Are you prepared for the escalation of personal conflict? |
Originally Posted by Jazzop
(Post 14273056)
Those who have such disorders should have the common decency to reduce their disturbance to others by whatever means are available to them. It's not about "banning" people. It's about people exercising self-control. Ultimately, however, those with no self-control call for others to control them.
I was on a QF A380 flight LAX-SYD with a loud snorer and I just shrugged it off. I don't realistically expect someone to stay awake for an entire 15 hour flight. People have anatomical problems they can't help, I'm not as selfish or as pompous as to think that I can control someone else's behavior. People, air travel sucks and we're all in it together. A little compassion and understanding goes a long way when you're packed into a metal tube with 300+ other pax - try not to be indignant, miserable human beings. you're on public transportation; deal with it. |
Originally Posted by Jazzop
(Post 14267134)
A lot of people are suggesting that we simply purchase and use headsets/earplugs/music players in order to isolate us from someone else's annoying behavior. I'm curious how many of those people would also suggest that those who are annoyed by the behavior of smokers should simply buy a gasmask.
My Dad snores rather loudly, it annoyed me till I got some Hearos from Target. If you won't spend $5 for your own sanity than... |
There's no "normally." Let's go with "all of the above." Since I am a small, nonthreatening female, there's nothing wrong with touching/tapping the person to let them know, especially in the south where I know they won't freak out. If for whatever reason I don't feel comfortable with touching the person who is snoring and not easily aroused by a comment, then I might speak to the flight attendant. "Can we see if that guy is OK? That sounds like sleep apnea to me?" Or if I really think it's OK (loud snoring, but he's not fighting for air, with those gasps you get when the person has a real issue) then I just put in ear plugs.
Totally based on my "read" of the situation. I don't want someone to go to sleep and never wake up next to me, on the other hand, I don't want to start a discussion either. As far as more snoring in first class, it's because 1) some people snore more even if they just drink a beer and the beer is free in first, and 2) there's more space and more physical comfort so people can nod off where they might be too paranoid to nod off in coach...so again... if there are more people able to sleep in first it's only logical that more people in first snore than in coach.
Originally Posted by cinnamon121
(Post 14260106)
Just wondering what people normally do when they get stuck next to a person snoring loudly. Have you tapped the person to let them know? Ask a FA to help out? Or do nothing?
Happened to me this morning. Was sitting in F and my neighbor was a nice guy/good chit chat. Then, it happened. He fell asleep and most of the F cabin could hear him snoring. We were stuck on the runway at #17 in line or takeoff. I was dyinig to listen to my ipod, but I had forgotten to take it out of my bag in the OH bin. FA's were belted and seated. Finally, got my ipod out after we were in the air, and it helped a ton although he snored and slept through the entire flight. I didn't say anything - while I didn't like the snoring, I didn't really blame him personally. He woke up right before landing and then gallantly let me off the plane ahead of him. I wonder if he knew he snored the whole time and that loudly. The other strange thing is that the last time this happened to me I was in the same seat in F, same situation of being stuck on the runway. I 've mostly flown coach and really don't recall very loud snorers in coach. Why? Is it because people aren't that comfortable and perhaps more cognizant of the lack of personal space which leads to less deep sleeping? My SO said he always just travels with earplugs. Probably a good idea. |
Depends on the flight. If it's short, then not a big deal. If it's a daytime flight and long I'd let the person know. Not everyone realizes that they snore or how much.
Should this be an overnight flight, then it's fair game. Some people snore when they sleep and you should expect most people to be sleeping on an overnight flight. You should always have ear plugs with you. Quite likely, you wouldn't even have needed to start this thread. |
I'm not going to get into the what-should-you-do discussion, but as someone who has slept next to a snorer for nearly 30 years, I can recommend the Howard Leight "SuperLeight" earplugs, 33db rating. I use them at home on a regular basis, and I always take them with me when traveling.
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Originally Posted by Jazzop
(Post 14267134)
A lot of people are suggesting that we simply purchase and use headsets/earplugs/music players in order to isolate us from someone else's annoying behavior. I'm curious how many of those people would also suggest that those who are annoyed by the behavior of smokers should simply buy a gasmask.
-- As an aside, there are fairly cheap bite guards (and much more expensive ones available through dentists) that will help some folks with snoring - while I'd certainly never call on their being mandatory (and indeed they don't work for everyone) for those who KNOW they're snorers and are going to fly redeye or 8hr+ long-haul, they might be worth a try. |
This is ridiculous. You really think that snorers don't realise they snore? I don't need some overly sensitive seatmate to give me a revelation about my nocturnal behaviour.
I fly twice weekly at the moment, and I need the precious little sleep I get on these flights. Please don't wake me - I have sinus issues that cause the snoring and there's nothing I can do about it, but you have the option to put in earplugs or use AVOD. |
Originally Posted by msfi
(Post 14276174)
I need the precious little sleep I get on these flights. Please don't wake me - I have sinus issues that cause the snoring and there's nothing I can do about it, but you have the option to put in earplugs or use AVOD.
I’ve had large people next to me ask to raise the armrest because they didn’t fit in their seat. Wanted to spread into my seat. I’ve had moms with lap-riders kicking my seatback. “Can’t control them all the time. Kids are kids”, they explained. And I’ve had snoorers. Yeah – I have earplugs. I push them in until they touch together and I still hear the sawing. I try to be respectful and understanding of others. What I don’t understand is the sense of entitlement exhibited by folks who impose, inflict, or intrude on the rest of us. Yes – we are all in it together. You are the source of the “problem”. So why do I have to accommodate you? Why can’t you be uncomfortable or awake for a while to accommodate me? |
I'm a farter so i cant really complain about others :)
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Originally Posted by Peterpack
(Post 14277379)
I'm a farter so i cant really complain about others :)
this made me LOL so hard my husband came running to ask what is so funny |
Originally Posted by Peterpack
(Post 14277379)
I'm a farter so i cant really complain about others :)
As for snoring, I'm also in the camp that this is public transportation and people WILL snore, so that is why I didn't say anything to the guy next to me. If it had been a red eye or a TATL flight, I would actually have expected to endure something like that, and I would have brought ear plugs. But this was a 3 hour flight at 10:15am, so it was unexpected. It also was exacerbated by the fact that we were were waiting in line for take off for almost half an hour so no earphones. Like I said, I didn't personally blame my neighbor, but I couldn't help thinking that for a 3 hour domestic flight, I wish I had not been gotten the upgrade. The slightly wider seats and the cold lunch meal was not worth it. Would rather have sat in a coach seat. |
My Sony noise cancellation headphones take care of most of the snoring and other noises, like little children. Having said that, I've never had anyone next to me snore their brains out. I did have people behind or in front of me, but the headphones do take care of that.
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