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Originally Posted by ross123
(Post 14066095)
I'd probably also add drivers - such as rental car bus drivers if they help with luggage or hotel shuttle drivers dropping you at the airport or your hotel.
The rental shuttles I've been on usually don't touch luggage and i'm not going to swim upstream to tip. |
I always try to use curbside check-in as it is faster and I always tip per bag. A little more if they also get my boarding pass. Usually ends up 3 to 5 bucks for one person, one bag. Especially if they change your seat.
Also the shuttle driver. If you do not get out of the seat and help me, no tip. One guy scraped my windows at DTW when I had lost my snow brush. He got 5 bucks extra, heavy snowstorm. I also make sure I always have dollar bills and fives or tens if appropriate. There is no excuse not to tip just because you did not plan your cash out accordingly. Kind of like eating out and not tipping because you only have enough money for the food. If you do not want to tip do not use services where tipping is expected. Last time into DTW with 8 bags the porter got our bags, took us to the fast guy in customs, got us a Metro Car and found me a lighter as they were loading the car. That guy got a huge tip. |
Originally Posted by Jasper2009
(Post 14062453)
- some lounges have shower facilities and the "housekeeping"/cleaning staff tend to very much appreciate a tip (very poorly paid staff), some people will also pay a "tip" to avoid having to wait to use the showers
If the showers are full, no matter how much you tip, you still have to wait. If I see someone tip the shower attendant in order to get to the front of the line, I would not hesitate to report to the lounge agent right away. This is not a restaurant or a bar. No matter how poorly paid staff, they should accept as it is, if not find another job get better paid. They should have an atitude of helping and serving people, not expecting to be tipped, and should refuse any tip. |
Originally Posted by ORDnHKG
(Post 14067752)
I had never experienced that in US or Asia, perhaps a practice in Europe ?...
As for tipping baggage porters at US airports, sometimes it is pragmatic to tip generously if you want special service. Such as the porter taking extra care that your bags are properly tagged and arrive on time to the right sorting area. Sure that should happen without a tip, but with a big enough tip they will take a second look to make sure it is all OK before moving on. I would never consider using curbside check-in without leaving a tip (unless I wanted that suitcase to be run over by a bus). |
Originally Posted by Mr H
(Post 14066546)
Really?
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You misunderstand
Originally Posted by Mr H
(Post 14065094)
I have to say I find it appalling that you should have to pay for wheelchair assistance. Ryanair tried charging for wheelchair assistance and were told that this breached disability discrimination legislation.
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Originally Posted by Redhead
(Post 14062762)
In general, you are NEVER required to tip in the US and if anyone in a service position ever tries to tells you that I feel that they should automatically lose the tip.
Finally, the delivery guy got there 1 hour and 30 minutes late and I took my free pizza. Stunningly, as I am closing the door, the delivery guy says "You know, a tip is standard". I couldn't belive it, the guy delivers my pizza 2 full hours after I ordered it, it's cold, and he wants a tip..then has the nerve to ask for it outright. I closed the door in his face and called the manager back to file a complaint about the delivery guy. I don't think he lasted long. The worst case for me was The Pasadena Brewing company about 5 years ago..it has since been put under new management and advertised as such..which is never a good sign. Anyhow, the wife and I showed up and went to the hostess stand. She was on the phone and it was obvious it was with a friend by her conversation. She looked at us and gave us the "Hang on a sec" finger while she continued to chat about her hair for another minute. This would have been bizzare enough, but it got worse. We were seated, and nobody came to take our drink order for 40 minutes. Now, you may be wondering why I didn't just flag someone down, but after 10 minutes I started to wonder just how long it would take them to do it on their own. It was sort of an experiment at this point. Finally someone came to take our order, and we put in our food orders as well. This was the last we saw of anyone for another 50 minutes!! At this point it was more of a show than a dinner out, and we stuck it out just to see how bad it could actually get. We thought they were so inattentive, we could probably have walked out on the bill too! Finally they bring the meal and someone actually apologized for the poor service, and told us our drinks and deserts would be comped for our trouble. Great. It then took another 45 minutes to get someone to bring the bill and when they did, of course NOTHING was comped and there was extra stuff on there we did not order. Long story short, my tip was 4 nickels at the bottom of my dirty pint glass. On another occasion, a co-worker and I were at Blondies in Colorado Springs. Nobody else was in there. The bartender and the waitress were behind the bar doing shots. Finally they took our order as if we were troubling them. I got my food in the normal time, but my co-worker did not get his. At about the 40 minute mark he asked, and the drunk waitress went to look for it. She brought it, and it was obvious it had been sitting waiting for pick up for that 40 minutes. It was cold and withered....she said "sorry, we are so busy"..but NOBODY WAS THERE. Come bill time, I filled in zeroes on the gratuity line. With happy faces in them! It is more insulting to tip a stupidly small amount than to not tip at all. Failing that, some insult is appropriate, such as happy faces in the zeroes and a nice mess for them to clean up. |
Originally Posted by ORDnHKG
(Post 14067752)
I had never experienced that in US or Asia, perhaps a practice in Europe ?
If the showers are full, no matter how much you tip, you still have to wait. If I see someone tip the shower attendant in order to get to the front of the line, I would not hesitate to report to the lounge agent right away. This is not a restaurant or a bar. No matter how poorly paid staff, they should accept as it is, if not find another job get better paid. They should have an atitude of helping and serving people, not expecting to be tipped, and should refuse any tip. Itīs not up to me to judge whether paying a "tip"/"expedite fee" is appropiate or not, but when considering the working conditions itīs really not surprising: - itīs not a nice job and they get paid $5-$10/hour. - most cleaning staff Iīve met hardly speak English - most pax are either grumpy about no showers being available, and if they are most pax donīt even say "thankīs" => a friendly "good morning" and "tipping" $5 while asking whether it may be possible to avoid a 2h wait is likely going to work While Iīm not a huge fan of tipping in general, I do try to be generous if the service was good, and IMO any F pax should be able to tip $2-$5 when enjoying the F shower/spa/... |
not tipping at curbside checkin is an invitation for lost bags.
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Originally Posted by mike_asia
(Post 14072102)
not tipping at curbside checkin is an invitation for lost bags.
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Originally Posted by Jasper2009
(Post 14071149)
IMO any F pax should be able to tip $2-$5 when enjoying the F shower/spa/...
Originally Posted by mike_asia
(Post 14072102)
not tipping at curbside checkin is an invitation for lost bags.
It is likely that F passengers are wealthier than most people they meet outwith their immediate work environment. But thay shouldn't feel obliged to right the wrongs of the world by handing out money to everyone they encounter. There are much more sensitive ways to give to charity and if people didn't tip then employers would have to pay proper better wages. |
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Originally Posted by Mr H
Originally Posted by Jasper2009
(Post 14071149)
IMO any F pax should be able to tip $2-$5 when enjoying the F shower/spa/...
Originally Posted by mike_asia
(Post 14072102)
not tipping at curbside checkin is an invitation for lost bags.
It is likely that F passengers are wealthier than most people they meet outwith their immediate work environment. But thay shouldn't feel obliged to right the wrongs of the world by handing out money to everyone they encounter. There are much more sensitive ways to give to charity and if people didn't tip then employers would have to pay proper better wages. |
I do not tip for services I am forced to use. (Example: consolidated rental car shuttle buses)
I tip for services I have a choice in using. (Cab or hotel shuttle) |
Originally Posted by Jasper2009
(Post 14071149)
Iīve experienced this in the US, Canada, UK and Germany, and Iīm sure there are many other countries where it happens much more often.
Itīs not up to me to judge whether paying a "tip"/"expedite fee" is appropiate or not, but when considering the working conditions itīs really not surprising: - itīs not a nice job and they get paid $5-$10/hour. - most cleaning staff Iīve met hardly speak English - most pax are either grumpy about no showers being available, and if they are most pax donīt even say "thankīs" => a friendly "good morning" and "tipping" $5 while asking whether it may be possible to avoid a 2h wait is likely going to work While Iīm not a huge fan of tipping in general, I do try to be generous if the service was good, and IMO any F pax should be able to tip $2-$5 when enjoying the F shower/spa/... Even if I fly F, and I had, never tipped anyone, if someone is nice enough on the ground or up in the air, I would write down their names and send a compliment letter to the airline. Only those really go the extra mile on long haul flights FA, or an unexpecting upgrade, then I would buy a box of chocolate from the duty free, but never tip anyone for standard service that I am supposed to expect. |
Originally Posted by InkUnderNails
(Post 14072724)
I do not tip for services I am forced to use.
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