How dangerous are seizures in flight
I traveled last week, a passenger in the row in front of me suffered multiple seizures in flight. After the third one they finally called for a medical professional on board. The flight did not divert, though it was held at the gate to get a medical professional. I did not realize they were seizures until the medical professional thing happened
Question is, how dangerous is this? If its very dangerous, I'm sure I'll let the flight attendants know in the future when I first see a sign of it, or is it controllable and ok to proceed to destination? I guess we had about two hours after the last incident until destination. |
Originally Posted by closetasfan
(Post 13386384)
I traveled last week, a passenger in the row in front of me suffered multiple seizures in flight. After the third one they finally called for a medical professional on board. The flight did not divert, though it was held at the gate to get a medical professional. I did not realize they were seizures until the medical professional thing happened
Question is, how dangerous is this? If its very dangerous, I'm sure I'll let the flight attendants know in the future when I first see a sign of it, or is it controllable and ok to proceed to destination? I guess we had about two hours after the last incident until destination. |
Originally Posted by closetasfan
(Post 13386384)
I traveled last week, a passenger in the row in front of me suffered multiple seizures in flight. After the third one they finally called for a medical professional on board. The flight did not divert, though it was held at the gate to get a medical professional. I did not realize they were seizures until the medical professional thing happened
Question is, how dangerous is this? If its very dangerous, I'm sure I'll let the flight attendants know in the future when I first see a sign of it, or is it controllable and ok to proceed to destination? I guess we had about two hours after the last incident until destination. |
This may be common for this person. You might not have been close enough to know or hear, but maybe they had a travel partner that explained this to the FA. Had they not, I don't know why this wasn't attended to sooner.
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Originally Posted by pragakhan
(Post 13386555)
This may be common for this person. You might not have been close enough to know or hear, but maybe they had a travel partner that explained this to the FA. Had they not, I don't know why this wasn't attended to sooner.
And I was thinking of generalized seizures in my previous post. There may be other, more "mild" types of seizures that would be far less worrisome. |
If the person was not seated they could sustain injuries from falling or hitting something. They could also bit their tongue and have unpleasant bleeding. If a seizure lasts a while they could also aspirate stomach contents and obstruct their airway and/or get aspiration pneumonia. I am surprised that after 3 seizures this plane did not divert in order get medical attention for this person.
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Originally Posted by MusicCityMom
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If the person was not seated they could sustain injuries from falling or hitting something. They could also bit their tongue and have unpleasant bleeding. If a seizure lasts a while they could also aspirate stomach contents and obstruct their airway and/or get aspiration pneumonia. I am surprised that after 3 seizures this plane did not divert in order get medical attention for this person.
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One reason that airlines are reluctant to divert in the case of seizures lately is that there has been been a spurt in terms of passengers "faking" seizures while overflying certain countries and then claiming asylum upon landing.
It is a very tiny minority of cases that are actually fakes but enough that the immigration authorities have warned airlines to beware of these. |
Originally Posted by B747-437B
(Post 13388848)
One reason that airlines are reluctant to divert in the case of seizures lately is that there has been been a spurt in terms of passengers "faking" seizures while overflying certain countries and then claiming asylum upon landing.
It is a very tiny minority of cases that are actually fakes but enough that the immigration authorities have warned airlines to beware of these. |
Originally Posted by joesmoe
(Post 13388935)
Reeaaly that's interesting, I never thought of people faking in order to land somewhere in particular.
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Originally Posted by B747-437B
(Post 13390516)
You would be surprised at the stuff that people go through to get into some countries. The most despicable ones to have come to light lately were from a gang who shipped economic refugees INTO Haiti via the DR in the first few days following the earthquake, actually gave them physical injuries to make it appear that they were injured in the quake and then had them medevaced to the first world country that their fake paperwork allegedly claimed they came from. They then claim asylum upon arrival in the country that arranged to medevac them thinking they were a citizen.
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Also, what might appear to be a seizure is not always a seizure.
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Most epileptic seizures go away in a few minutes and do not require emergency medical attention or hospitalization. IANAD but I am related to someone with this condition.
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Medically, a seizure in a plane is little different from on the ground, except for the cabin altitude. It would like having one in Salt lake City, for example.
The flight doesn't necessary have to land. Flights crews are trained for such events. The Captain consults with medical experts on the ground regarding the pasenger's condition, availability of medical facilities. etc. Often, the flight continues normally. Having a doctor or trained EMT on board helps. |
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Originally Posted by Allan38103
(Post 13391591)
Medically, a seizure in a plane is little different from on the ground, except for the cabin altitude. It would like having one in Salt lake City, for example.
The flight doesn't necessary have to land. Flights crews are trained for such events. The Captain consults with medical experts on the ground regarding the pasenger's condition, availability of medical facilities. etc. Often, the flight continues normally. Having a doctor or trained EMT on board helps. Many suffer from relatively-minor petit-mal or simple-partial seizures, and in most such cases, you wouldn't even know it was happening unless you happened to be talking to the person at that time. There will usually be tensing up on one side of the body and slurred speach, with a duration of anything from 30 seconds to a couple of minutes. Epilepsy (which is what we're talking about here) is far more common than most realize. Thankfully it's very controllable in most cases, using drugs. There is a strong tendancy to over-react when encountering someone with a seizure. When my son had one on a bike ride, causing what I'd call a "controlled" crash (he has some warning, enough to slow down to a stop before one side of his body becomes stiff), it was seen by another cyclist who happened to be a paramedic. He called in the cavalry, and by the time my wife got there (after my son called), which was only maybe 6 or 7 minutes, they had several fire trucks out there and the fire chief was arguing with my wife that they had to take my son to the hospital. :rolleyes: It took my wife a bit to educate them and talk them out of that. What would have been best would have been if he'd gotten back on his bike and ridden home, showing them that it's just not that big a deal (for him anyway). The important thing is to find out if a seizure is "normal" for that person, of if this is their first time. Hope this helps someone- |
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