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Mr H Nov 26, 2009 6:03 am

I was reserving a seat on a TG flight the other day and was amused to see that there was no row 13. Presumably this is because people wouldn't want to sit there - being unlucky, row 13 would presumably be more likely to crash than other rows.

KChar Nov 26, 2009 6:26 am


Originally Posted by bitburgr (Post 12879371)
It's my understanding that FA's aren't allowed to do onboard upgrades so I think you might be left to the Y life rafts. But these days, you should really do yourself a favor and as with all things related to Y-class air travel -> bring your own.

They may not be able to do onboard upgrades, but maybe they can upgrade Y passengers to the first class life raft when they are outside the plane.

djk7 Nov 26, 2009 6:43 am


Originally Posted by Kimberley (Post 12878994)
There's something I really think the FAs should make clear in their safety presentations.

If a plane needs to be evacuated, I'm assuming they have a special life raft for First Class pax, but how do FAs make sure that First Class pax leave the plane first? Do they actually hold the other pax back until the forward cabin is empty? Otherwise, how could you really be sure you were getting the special treatment you paid for? Also, what would they do if someone auto-upgraded himself to the First Class raft? Do they check boarding cards before you go down the shute?

They would put at least a couple Y pax in each raft to man the oars. Pre-departure beverages are at the option of the cabin crew, so most likely they would be skipped most of the time. Food and beverage service are somewhat reduced because the rafts aren't meant to hold a fully loaded trolley.

bitburgr Nov 26, 2009 7:16 am

Wait...are infants allowed in the F life rafts?

lnixon Nov 26, 2009 8:15 am

In the unlikely event that the plane needs to be evacuated, each passenger in first class will be issued a coach class passenger as a flotation device.

Flaflyer Nov 26, 2009 11:28 am


Originally Posted by B747-437B (Post 12879364)
One of the toadies assigned to liaise with the airline actually asked whether in the case of an emergency we would require HRH to share a life raft with other passengers. Also, in the case of depressurisation, he wanted to ensure that proper protocol was followed and that other pax refrained from donning their masks until HRH had done so.

LOL. But you missed the golden opportunity of a lifetime, to ask the toadie (with a straight face if possible) "And in the event the airplane crashes, how will you notify us that HRH is dead? All the other passengers and crew really wish to follow proper protocol and refrain from dying until HRH has done so first." :D

leandrorar Nov 26, 2009 9:10 pm

L O L

youreadyfreddie Nov 26, 2009 10:01 pm


Originally Posted by num1bearsfan (Post 12879281)
And since we're on the topic. I've always wondered, will there be beverage services on board the raft? They're not going to expect us to paddle or anything are they?

Paddle? Heavens to Betsy, no! Why do you think you are expected to pack one of those manual eggbeaters in your carry-on bag? Honestly, sometimes I wonder about some of you! ;)

FlyerInCmh Nov 26, 2009 11:07 pm


Originally Posted by Kimberley (Post 12878994)
There's something I really think the FAs should make clear in their safety presentations.

If a plane needs to be evacuated, I'm assuming they have a special life raft for First Class pax, but how do FAs make sure that First Class pax leave the plane first? Do they actually hold the other pax back until the forward cabin is empty? Otherwise, how could you really be sure you were getting the special treatment you paid for? Also, what would they do if someone auto-upgraded himself to the First Class raft? Do they check boarding cards before you go down the shute?

Another thing I wonder is, say I happened to be travelling in Y but had a gold card. Would this entitle me to use the First Class raft? And while the plane was being evacuated, who would I show my card to and when? This bothers me because I can imagine some Kettles being irritated by my trying to walk to the front of the plane to find a FA, while they were trying to file out the emergency exit. I would show them my gold card and try to explain, but you know how some Kettles are. They might not even know what it was.

They would absolutely follow the same boarding procedure... emergency or not! Make sure you keep your boarding passes (they have assigned seatings in the raft too), have your gold card handy(so that they always know you're elite), and of course bring your credit card (as the raft is now cashless).

skylady Nov 26, 2009 11:38 pm

Don't Gold members plaster their cards to their forehead?

B747-437B Nov 27, 2009 3:57 am


Originally Posted by Flaflyer (Post 12884179)
LOL. But you missed the golden opportunity of a lifetime, to ask the toadie (with a straight face if possible) "And in the event the airplane crashes, how will you notify us that HRH is dead? All the other passengers and crew really wish to follow proper protocol and refrain from dying until HRH has done so first." :D

HRH was traveling with his personal physician, so toadie would probably have replied with an equally straight face that the physician would inform us. And then the next time he flew with anyone, that requirement would be added to the brief.

One must never underestimate the obtuseness of toadies. :)

Kimberley Nov 27, 2009 5:27 am


Originally Posted by B747-437B (Post 12886452)
One must never underestimate the obtuseness of toadies. :)

I do feel though that they'd have the most interesting resumes.

My job is making sure everyone knows how important he is.

(Funnier still because assuming we're talking about a British HRH, they're not actually very important at all.)

Oxb Nov 27, 2009 8:29 am

On many US airlines ("US" does, WN does not) non elite Y passengers have to pay an access fee to be able to use the life rafts. Be sure to keep your F boarding pass or your Y boarding pass that indicates your elite status in the unlikely event of a water landing.


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