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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
...
3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:

https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:

https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:

https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:

https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
...
9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
...
Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
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L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:

https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
Terms of Use:

https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:

https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:

https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:

https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:

https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
Terms of Use:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:

https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
...
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:

https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:

https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:

http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
...
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
2. Your Conduct

The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

You may not otherwise modify, disassemble, create derivative works, distribute, reproduce, publicly display, perform, transmit, re-transmit, sell, rent, sublicense, or otherwise use any materials or content on this Site for commercial or non-commercial exploitation by yourself or the organization or entity to which you are attached or permit third parties to so do. Without limitation, unlimited or wholesale reproduction, copying of the content for commercial or non-commercial purposes and unwarranted modification of data and information within the content is not permitted, and any use of these materials on any other website or networked computer environment for any purpose without IATA’s prior written consent is prohibited.
...
4. Intellectual Property Rights

...You must not modify, decompile, or reverse engineer any software IATA discloses to you via this Site, and you must not remove, overprint, or deface any notice of copyright, trademark, logo, legend, or other notice of ownership from any originals or copies of software or information from the website. "IATA Trademarks" means all names, marks, brands, URL names or addresses, logos, designs, trade dress and other designations IATA uses in connection with Products or Services. You are not permitted to incorporate any IATA Trademarks into any other trademarks, service marks, company names, Internet addresses, domain names, or any other similar designations. Any unauthorized use of any materials contained on this website may violate copyright laws, trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and communications regulations and statutes.

http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
Terms of Use:

http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
Terms of Use:

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
Terms of Use:
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Old Feb 26, 2012, 6:50 pm
  #4861  
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Question

Originally Posted by hnewman
The tool shows low mileage availability

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.4/Diamond - WSpan: Awards/DL-SkyTeam]
Code:
TPA  Tampa Intl FL US [KTPA]
MSP  Minneapolis St Paul Intl MN US [KMSP]
MON  04 Jun 2012 | 1 Seat | SM Status: Diamond

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Information
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ----------------------------
DL         1329    TPA   14:15     MSP   16:43     M90  0   Dur: 03:28 | SM: 12.5K+2 USD

I both called DL and checked online and only mid is available. Any idea why?
Originally Posted by jasonvr
Possible that it got snatched up before you could book it?

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.4/Diamond - WSpan: Awards/DL-SkyTeam]
Code:
TPA  Tampa Intl FL US [KTPA]
MSP  Minneapolis St Paul Intl MN US [KMSP]
MON  04 Jun 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Information
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ----------------------------
DL         1329    TPA   14:15     MSP   16:43     M90  0   Dur: 03:28 | SM: 20K+2 USD
Originally Posted by hnewman
Nope checked before and after calling DL
The results in your OP indicate that you have activated the [Elite] Mode -- is it showing YS or YE seats?

Are you also selecting the Elite option when you are trying to book on DL.com?
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Old Feb 27, 2012, 3:58 am
  #4862  
 
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Originally Posted by KVS
The results in your OP indicate that you have activated the [Elite] Mode -- is it showing YS or YE seats?

Are you also selecting the Elite option when you are trying to book on DL.com?
Yes when I tried booking and calling the DM line. It is gone now.

But I had to call DL for a flight delay and low and behold it is available. This is the 2nd time this has happened. It seems like KVS is about 4-8 hours ahead of what I can find availability.

Last edited by hnewman; Feb 27, 2012 at 4:04 am Reason: Called DL
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Old Feb 28, 2012, 7:44 pm
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HI All,

I've just purchased the Platinum version as it states on the website

OneWorld Award Availability

QF BA AA AY IB MA LA XL LP 4M

However when I try and do a search for BA award availability it tells me I need Diamond Level!!!!
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Old Feb 28, 2012, 7:57 pm
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Originally Posted by mdj1
HI All,

I've just purchased the Platinum version as it states on the website

OneWorld Award Availability

QF BA AA AY IB MA LA XL LP 4M

However when I try and do a search for BA award availability it tells me I need Diamond Level!!!!
Most likely using the wrong method.

This page has a good breakdown of what methods are available for each membership level:
http://www.kvstool.com/Screenshots.php#Awards_SA

The BA method is only for Diamond, however the Amadeus OneWorld method (which includes BA) is available to Platinum members
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Old Feb 28, 2012, 8:04 pm
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Well I wouldn't say that's very clear on this page.

http://www.kvstool.com/MembershipLev...?Source=HOME-C

When I try and do a one world search it asks for my Qantas Number, I don't have one and I don't want one.
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Old Feb 29, 2012, 2:35 pm
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Originally Posted by mdj1
I've just purchased the Platinum version
Welcome to the KVS Tool!

Originally Posted by mdj1
as it states on the website

OneWorld Award Availability

QF BA AA AY IB MA LA XL LP 4M

However when I try and do a search for BA award availability it tells me I need Diamond Level!!!!
Originally Posted by jasonvr
Most likely using the wrong method.

This page has a good breakdown of what methods are available for each membership level:
http://www.kvstool.com/Screenshots.php#Awards_SA

The BA method is only for Diamond, however the Amadeus OneWorld method (which includes BA) is available to Platinum members
Indeed, that is the case -- thanks for helping mdj1, jasonvr!

Originally Posted by mdj1
Well I wouldn't say that's very clear on this page.

http://www.kvstool.com/MembershipLev...?Source=HOME-C
To see exactly which Methods are available at each membership level, please select the [Detailed View] option on that page.

Originally Posted by mdj1
When I try and do a one world search it asks for my Qantas Number, I don't have one and I don't want one.
Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Q7
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Old Feb 29, 2012, 2:36 pm
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But your page is misleading.
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Old Feb 29, 2012, 5:29 pm
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Originally Posted by mdj1
But your page is misleading.
We are sorry you feel that way, however, the [Summary View] on the Membership Options page was created, based on the user feedback, and the information contained therein is accurate.

As jasonvr had already explained earlier on, BA Award Availability is fully accessible via the [Awards/OneWorld] Method at the Platinum level. It is also accessible via [Awards/BA-OneWorld] at the Diamond level.

You're welcome to upgrade to a higher level at anytime, however, it is certainly not required for BA Award Availability.
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Old Mar 1, 2012, 5:41 pm
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Sabre: Fares/DotRes doesn't seem to be pulling up results for business class searches.

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.5/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:
LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
R/T  15 Aug 2012 | 30 Aug 2012 | Business

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------
                                                            No Matching Fares Found
I have to imagine there are fares published between LAX and LHR on some carrier

Galileo does return results:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.5/Diamond - Galileo: Fares/PSH/RU]
Code:
LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
R/T  15 Aug 2012 | Business

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur   AdvanceP  Min  Max  Fare Basis | Travel Period
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ---  --------------------------
BD         LAX     LON      2155   USD    60 Days  Sun   90  ZNC2S
DL         LAX     LON      2155   USD    60 Days  Sun   90  SP64US
OS         LAX     LON      2155   USD    60 Days  Sun   90  ZNC2S
AC         LAX     LON      2155   USD    60 Days  Sun   90  ZNC2S
KL         LAX     LON      2155   USD    60 Days  Sun   90  ZP64US
AF         LAX     LON      2155   USD    60 Days  Sun   90  ZP64US
CO         LAX     LON      2155   USD    60 Days  Sun   90  ZNC2S
AA         LAX     LON      2155   USD    60 Days  Sun  360  IR60SL
US         LAX     LON      2155   USD    60 Days    7       ZHWWU6ED
SN         LAX     LON      2155   USD    60 Days  Sun   90  ZNC2S
AZ         LAX     LON      2155   USD    60 Days  Sun   90  IP64US
LH         LAX     LON      2155   USD    60 Days  Sun   90  ZNC2S
UA         LAX     LON      2155   USD    60 Days  Sun   90  ZNC2S
VS         LAX     LON      2155   USD    60 Days  Sun  360  ZSPL60
LX         LAX     LON      2155   USD    60 Days  Sun   90  ZNC2S
FI         LAX     LON      2176   USD        ***       360  JQR4SAGA
NZ         LAX     LON      2480   USD        ***  Sun   90  JSL4
UX         LAX     LON      2495   USD        ***        90  IRT3MS3
FI         LAX     LON      2634   USD        ***       360  JQR4SAGA
FI         LAX     LON      2692   USD        ***       360  JQR4SAGA
FI         LAX     LON      2696   USD        ***       360  JQR3SAGA
US         LAX     LON      2799   USD    30 Days  Sun       ZBWEUNE8
SU         LAX     LON      2975   USD        ***        30  IBR
FI         LAX     LON      3053   USD        ***       360  JQR3SAGA
AB         LAX     LON      3075   USD        ***            IABRT2
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Old Mar 2, 2012, 1:35 pm
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Originally Posted by jasonvr
Sabre: Fares/DotRes doesn't seem to be pulling up results for business class searches.

I have to imagine there are fares published between LAX and LHR on some carrier

Galileo does return results:
As mentioned on the KVS Tool Homepage, the [Sabre: DotRes] Engine is currently experiencing intermittent issues, particularly with premium cabin Fares.

Please use [Galileo: PSH] and/or [ATP: FC] Methods in the meantime.
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Old Mar 3, 2012, 7:53 am
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YOW-PHX - UA ticketed, but codeshared on AC

I will be going to a medical conference to be held in PHX in late April. It is funded by an US federal medical association, funded by NIH (ie funded by the US government). Although the association pays for the my travel expenses, one on the restrictions is that the airline ticket has to be designated that of an airline based in USA.

I want to fly on AC, if at all possible, over flying on any US based airline. The only way I can do this is by getting a US based airline (that probably means UA) designated ticket, codeshared on AC.



These flights are codeshared on AC. I want to fly on Fri April 27. No problems there - I can get UA 8289 and 8473.The problem is coming back. I could come back on Sun April 29 - by getting ticketed for UA 8474 and UA 8290. If I fly on Sunday, I miss at least couple of hours of the conference (the conference finishes shortly after noon).

However, I can not find these flights (for Mon April 30) on the UA web site, nor through the KVS tool. The question is what, if any, options do I have to fly on on a US designated ticket (but codeshared on AC) on Mon April 30?

From my perspective, I do not have to fly via the YYZ hub - I can fly via YVR, YYC, YEG, YUL, or YWG.

If necessary, I could fly on 3 flights, rather than 2 - and the first one can be on a relatively short haul UA flight to LA, SFO, or DEN. What I do not want is a longer-haul flight on UA metal, but on a AC flight.

PS-Is there any way that the KVS tool can be used to look specifically for codeshared fligths - let us say UA on AC - anywhere in the world?
PPS-I presume that US does not codeshare on AC?
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Old Mar 3, 2012, 8:24 am
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Going from YOW to Australia in Dec - 2 types of questions

I want to go from YOW to Perth Australia for a vacation in Dec.

1. Using the KVS tool, I can not get fare routing rules on Air New Zealand - I could not get the routing rules for any departure point in Canada to any destination in New Zealand or Australia.

2. I may want to go on a Star Alliance RTW or Circle Pacific ticket between YOW and Perth Australia. How do I find out the fares, and fare rules and routing rules for both types of tickets?
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Old Mar 3, 2012, 8:49 am
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Hi,

I'm trying to use the tool to look in to BA rewards.

I purchased teh platinum level as this should let me view the award status for BA, but when I try to look at the rewards it comes up with an error saying that the selected function is not available in the platinum teir and that I need to upgrade to diamond.

Can you offer any assistance?
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Old Mar 3, 2012, 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by onlynik
Hi,

I'm trying to use the tool to look in to BA rewards.

I purchased teh platinum level as this should let me view the award status for BA, but when I try to look at the rewards it comes up with an error saying that the selected function is not available in the platinum teir and that I need to upgrade to diamond.

Can you offer any assistance?
Look back at the last 5 days of posts
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Old Mar 3, 2012, 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by jasonvr
Look back at the last 5 days of posts
Thanks for your help, but the posts don't help.

I'm pretty sure I've selected teh right details, please tell me if I haven't



And the I hit go, and get this message:

Last edited by onlynik; Mar 3, 2012 at 10:04 pm
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