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ITA Matrix Search: http://matrix.itasoftware.com
You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.
A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.
Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:
You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.
A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.
Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:
ITA Software Matrix Airfare Search Consolidated Information and Help Thread
#1456
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: San Diego, CA
Programs: DL Diamond, IHG Platinum, Marriott Platinum Elite
Posts: 204
I didn't find this specific command for excluding UA Basic Economy fares, so thought I'd add it for people searching.
Add this to exclude all N Basic Economy fares from UA search results:
F ~BC=N
Add this to exclude all N Basic Economy fares from UA search results:
F ~BC=N
#1457
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: LAX
Posts: 3,639
Solution for missing matrix.itasoftware data
For the past month or so matrix.itasoftware.com seems likely to return a very incomplete list of flights, even for very simple queries.
e.g. "One-way: Los Angeles to DFW, ORD, SEA, PDX, YVR, YUL, Thu, Aug 10" returns just 10 flights, and the only AA flight is to PDX.
Qualifying the carrier with AA+ returns 8 AA flights, including one to DFW but none to ORD.
Specifying just ORD as the destination (still AA+ for carrier) returns 10 AA flights.
Removing the carrier specification returns a total of 9 flights LAX-ORD, two of which are AA.
Not seeing a general outcry, I suppose I'm the only one with this problem, but it makes the tool essentially useless. Any thoughts?
e.g. "One-way: Los Angeles to DFW, ORD, SEA, PDX, YVR, YUL, Thu, Aug 10" returns just 10 flights, and the only AA flight is to PDX.
Qualifying the carrier with AA+ returns 8 AA flights, including one to DFW but none to ORD.
Specifying just ORD as the destination (still AA+ for carrier) returns 10 AA flights.
Removing the carrier specification returns a total of 9 flights LAX-ORD, two of which are AA.
Not seeing a general outcry, I suppose I'm the only one with this problem, but it makes the tool essentially useless. Any thoughts?
I didn't make a project out of it to say the results became 'perfect' but the new list was dramatically more inclusive.
#1458
Join Date: Jun 2007
Programs: BA silver
Posts: 447
Matrix age groups
Hi,
I've just noticed on Matrix that you can tick a box for over 62 yrs old. Is there a different price for older people?
Does it matter if you have not ticked this if you are over 62?
Not that I am over 62!!
I've just noticed on Matrix that you can tick a box for over 62 yrs old. Is there a different price for older people?
Does it matter if you have not ticked this if you are over 62?
Not that I am over 62!!
#1459
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
But the technical infrastructure is there so an airline can apply different fares for seniors if it wishes, similar to infants (under 2) with and without a seat, children (under 12), unaccompanied children, youths, et c.
#1460
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: YQM
Posts: 341
It's basically the same fare as anyone else but there is no change fee, no minimum stay, and the ticket is refundable for a 90€ fee.
#1462
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: 45° North
Programs: DL DM MM, HH Diamond
Posts: 10,196
#1463
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 1
how to set up fix fare only for one leg in matrix
the internary is
HND, NRT - MIA, FLL, PBI, EYW, MLB, SRQ, MCO
31 Dec - 4 Jan
DELTA only flights, any number stops
I need to set up class code B or M for longhaul one only first leg between TYO and first connecting city (i suppose it will be MSP, SEA, LAX, ATL, DTW).
but the thing is if i set F bc=b|bc=m - the rest leg/legs till Florida also shows only as B/M. is there any possibility to generate M and for examble T etc in one farebasis for TYO-Florida interval?
BTW way back is desired to be any cheap domestic class + K only for any Hub-TYO leg.
sorry for my english^_^
HND, NRT - MIA, FLL, PBI, EYW, MLB, SRQ, MCO
31 Dec - 4 Jan
DELTA only flights, any number stops
I need to set up class code B or M for longhaul one only first leg between TYO and first connecting city (i suppose it will be MSP, SEA, LAX, ATL, DTW).
but the thing is if i set F bc=b|bc=m - the rest leg/legs till Florida also shows only as B/M. is there any possibility to generate M and for examble T etc in one farebasis for TYO-Florida interval?
BTW way back is desired to be any cheap domestic class + K only for any Hub-TYO leg.
sorry for my english^_^
Last edited by bbwm515; Sep 20, 2017 at 12:13 pm
#1464
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
the internary is
HND, NRT - MIA, FLL, PBI, EYW, MLB, SRQ, MCO
31 Dec - 4 Jan
DELTA only flights, any number stops
I need to set up class code B or M for longhaul one only first leg between TYO and first connecting city (i suppose it will be MSP, SEA, LAX, ATL, DTW).
but the thing is if i set F bc=b|bc=m - the rest leg/legs till Florida also shows only as B/M. is there any possibility to generate M and for examble T etc in one farebasis for TYO-Florida interval?
BTW way back is desired to be any cheap domestic class + K only for any Hub-TYO leg.
sorry for my english^_^
HND, NRT - MIA, FLL, PBI, EYW, MLB, SRQ, MCO
31 Dec - 4 Jan
DELTA only flights, any number stops
I need to set up class code B or M for longhaul one only first leg between TYO and first connecting city (i suppose it will be MSP, SEA, LAX, ATL, DTW).
but the thing is if i set F bc=b|bc=m - the rest leg/legs till Florida also shows only as B/M. is there any possibility to generate M and for examble T etc in one farebasis for TYO-Florida interval?
BTW way back is desired to be any cheap domestic class + K only for any Hub-TYO leg.
sorry for my english^_^
The f bc=X syntax restricts the prime code of the fare in use, it doesn't necessarily set the booking code for the legs covered. If you want a T- fare, you need to use f bc=t.
#1465
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: London
Programs: Mucci. Nothing else matters.
Posts: 38,644
the internary is
HND, NRT - MIA, FLL, PBI, EYW, MLB, SRQ, MCO
31 Dec - 4 Jan
DELTA only flights, any number stops
I need to set up class code B or M for longhaul one only first leg between TYO and first connecting city (i suppose it will be MSP, SEA, LAX, ATL, DTW).
but the thing is if i set F bc=b|bc=m - the rest leg/legs till Florida also shows only as B/M. is there any possibility to generate M and for examble T etc in one farebasis for TYO-Florida interval?
BTW way back is desired to be any cheap domestic class + K only for any Hub-TYO leg.
HND, NRT - MIA, FLL, PBI, EYW, MLB, SRQ, MCO
31 Dec - 4 Jan
DELTA only flights, any number stops
I need to set up class code B or M for longhaul one only first leg between TYO and first connecting city (i suppose it will be MSP, SEA, LAX, ATL, DTW).
but the thing is if i set F bc=b|bc=m - the rest leg/legs till Florida also shows only as B/M. is there any possibility to generate M and for examble T etc in one farebasis for TYO-Florida interval?
BTW way back is desired to be any cheap domestic class + K only for any Hub-TYO leg.
HND, NRT::f /f bc=b
MSP, SEA, LAX, ATL, DTW
MSP, SEA, LAX, ATL, DTW::f /bc=m
MIA, FLL, PBI, EYW, MLB, SRQ, MCO
MIA, FLL, PBI, EYW, MLB, SRQ, MCO::f
MSP, SEA, LAX, ATL, DTW
MSP, SEA, LAX, ATL, DTW::f /bc=k
HND, NRT
Then uncheck the box for "Allow airport changes" before searching.
However, you need to be aware that this will restrict you to flying sector 3 from the same airport as that at which you arrived at the end of sector 2 - in other words, if you arrive at FLL on the outbound, then using this method ITA will only return inbound trips starting at FLL. So you may need to play a bit with combinations before narrowing down your search a bit more, if that is important to you.
In addition, you need to be aware that (on a quick play) it looks like this will price using four different fare components, for example BLZ0ZKMD for TYO-ATL, MA0NA0MA for ATL-FLL, UD7NA0MB for FLL-ATL and KKY02KMD for ATL-TYO. But if I have read the fare construction correctly, this example does correctly register that ATL is a connecting point in both directions.
But at least it might be a start for your research, if this is beginning to show the sort of thing you are looking for.
#1466
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 1
I'm trying to book a flight, and see a few option on ITA Matrix... however I'm unable to reproduce the results anywhere else.
The flight is YEG to KTM on Dec 21, and returning Jan 6. Was able to pull an ITA price of $1,457 canadian, however every other site is $2,000+ If anyone can point me the right direction it would be appreciated!!
Fare 1: Carrier MU SSRCAC YEA to KTM (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code B, S
Covers YEG-YVR (Economy), YVR-KMG (Economy), KMG-KTM (Economy)
CA$560.00
Fare 2: Carrier MU SSRCAC KTM to YEA (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code S, V
Covers KTM-KMG (Economy), KMG-YVR (Economy), YVR-YEG (Economy)
CA$560.00
Fare Construction (can be useful to travel agents)
YEA WS X/YVR MU X/KMG MU KTM 455.36SSRCAC MU X/KMG MU X/YVR WS YEA 455.36SSRCAC NUC 910.72 END ROE 1.22979 XT 25.91CA 30.00SQ 1.50XG 33.60CN 12.00B6 13.60NP 13.60NQ 207.00YQ
The flight is YEG to KTM on Dec 21, and returning Jan 6. Was able to pull an ITA price of $1,457 canadian, however every other site is $2,000+ If anyone can point me the right direction it would be appreciated!!
Fare 1: Carrier MU SSRCAC YEA to KTM (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code B, S
Covers YEG-YVR (Economy), YVR-KMG (Economy), KMG-KTM (Economy)
CA$560.00
Fare 2: Carrier MU SSRCAC KTM to YEA (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code S, V
Covers KTM-KMG (Economy), KMG-YVR (Economy), YVR-YEG (Economy)
CA$560.00
Fare Construction (can be useful to travel agents)
YEA WS X/YVR MU X/KMG MU KTM 455.36SSRCAC MU X/KMG MU X/YVR WS YEA 455.36SSRCAC NUC 910.72 END ROE 1.22979 XT 25.91CA 30.00SQ 1.50XG 33.60CN 12.00B6 13.60NP 13.60NQ 207.00YQ
#1467
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Programs: Once upon a time...
Posts: 863
Next time, get this plugin: ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK
#1468
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 145
Did someone notice the new uber cool option of specifiying the ticketing carrier:
TICKETING-CARRIER codeTICKETING-CARRIER AASpecify ticketing carrier
The only problem is that it didn't work, even though I tried many different routes
If the official ITA rep is looking into this thread, we would be happy to have this feature fixed. The only missing link would be to probably search for BFs. If matrix can do that, I am sure 1000s of the users on the special savings lounge will be very very happy
TICKETING-CARRIER codeTICKETING-CARRIER AASpecify ticketing carrier
The only problem is that it didn't work, even though I tried many different routes
If the official ITA rep is looking into this thread, we would be happy to have this feature fixed. The only missing link would be to probably search for BFs. If matrix can do that, I am sure 1000s of the users on the special savings lounge will be very very happy
#1469
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
ITA Hacker has always been very informative when I've spoken to him.
#1470
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: CLE
Posts: 24
I'm stumped by fare rules on an itinerary I am trying to book.
I want to make a longer stopover in LHR, like a few days, but doing so reprices the second leg much higher even though the fare buckets stay the same. I compared the fare rules side-by-side between the two and I couldn't find a single difference.
This is what it says about stopovers:
2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
LIMITED TO 1 FREE AND 1 AT USD 50.00.
AND - 1 STOPOVER PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT AT
USD 75.00.
Does anyone know what fare rules might be preventing me from inserting a stopover? Does the open jaw mess up the construction?
I want to make a longer stopover in LHR, like a few days, but doing so reprices the second leg much higher even though the fare buckets stay the same. I compared the fare rules side-by-side between the two and I couldn't find a single difference.
This is what it says about stopovers:
2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
LIMITED TO 1 FREE AND 1 AT USD 50.00.
AND - 1 STOPOVER PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT AT
USD 75.00.
Does anyone know what fare rules might be preventing me from inserting a stopover? Does the open jaw mess up the construction?
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