Jun 4, 2014, 6:07 pm
Last edit by: TWA884
ITA Matrix Search: http://matrix.itasoftware.com
You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.
A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.
Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:
You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.
A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.
Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:
ITA Software Matrix Airfare Search Consolidated Information and Help Thread
May 13, 2013, 5:52 am
#347
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: YUL
Programs: UA 1K, MR Bonvoy Bonzaiiiii, National EE
Posts: 622
Yup - this works a charm on UA for me. I have never tried it on other airlines.
What really ticks me off with UA's site, is that you will find a great roundtrip itinerary on ITA, then go to try to book it on UA and not find it. If you change the depart or return to the day before or after, then select "Show me lower fares +/- 3 days", the low fare you see on ITA for those days will be shown as an option on the matrix!! You go to click it, and BAM, back to the higher fare.
What really ticks me off with UA's site, is that you will find a great roundtrip itinerary on ITA, then go to try to book it on UA and not find it. If you change the depart or return to the day before or after, then select "Show me lower fares +/- 3 days", the low fare you see on ITA for those days will be shown as an option on the matrix!! You go to click it, and BAM, back to the higher fare.
May 16, 2013, 4:12 pm
#348
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: YWG
Posts: 2,272
Ok... Other way around.
I see a fare on the official airline website, but not on ITA. In fact, in some circumstances, I cannot see a group of booking classes on ITA. In other circumstances, that group of booking classes shows up on ITA.
I'm guessing that there is no way around that? It doesn't really make sense to me.
I see a fare on the official airline website, but not on ITA. In fact, in some circumstances, I cannot see a group of booking classes on ITA. In other circumstances, that group of booking classes shows up on ITA.
I'm guessing that there is no way around that? It doesn't really make sense to me.
May 22, 2013, 11:04 am
#349
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: BKK
Programs: AA Plat, HH Diamond, SPG Gold
Posts: 2,395
Seeing the same issue here. Fares that show up in the app also show up on the airline website, and can be purchased. However, those same fares do not show up on a browser-based ITA search. I've tried making the search parameters extremely specific on the website to see if I can force it to display the deal, but some of the flights comprising the fare in question are not even listed on the ITA website search at all. Lowest fare for the specific airline isn't even close (30-40% higher).
Been noticing this issue for several weeks. Just bought a Delta fare that came up in the app-based search, so I know it's not just a ghost or illegal construct. The fare I bought was nowhere to be found on the ITA website.
This is a huge problem for us, because we are often searching for trips that are more than a month, but less than two, with a lot of date flexibility, which renders the app useless and/or cumbersome (its calendar search parameters are way too restrictive).
If we can't rely on the website to find the lowest fares, the tool rather defeats its own purpose.
Been noticing this issue for several weeks. Just bought a Delta fare that came up in the app-based search, so I know it's not just a ghost or illegal construct. The fare I bought was nowhere to be found on the ITA website.
This is a huge problem for us, because we are often searching for trips that are more than a month, but less than two, with a lot of date flexibility, which renders the app useless and/or cumbersome (its calendar search parameters are way too restrictive).
If we can't rely on the website to find the lowest fares, the tool rather defeats its own purpose.
May 27, 2013, 3:44 pm
#351
Join Date: Dec 2012
Programs: United
Posts: 30
Is there a way to search aircraft type by segment? Specifically any routing that includes at least 1 aircraft type as a 787?
For instance, I know United flies a 787 between DEN and IAH, however the flight numbers take a bit to find and they change in time, so if I am doing a calendar search I have to get the new flight numbers.
So if I were planning a trip from DEN-IAH-AUS and return could I search something like:
DEN:: o:ua / aircraft t:787 iah o:ua AUS
OR
One or more legs with one or more being a 787
DEN:: o:ua+ / aircraft t:787+ AUS
For instance, I know United flies a 787 between DEN and IAH, however the flight numbers take a bit to find and they change in time, so if I am doing a calendar search I have to get the new flight numbers.
So if I were planning a trip from DEN-IAH-AUS and return could I search something like:
DEN:: o:ua / aircraft t:787 iah o:ua AUS
OR
One or more legs with one or more being a 787
DEN:: o:ua+ / aircraft t:787+ AUS
May 28, 2013, 4:52 am
#352
Company Representative - ITA Software
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cambridge, MA
Posts: 362
Is there a way to search aircraft type by segment? Specifically any routing that includes at least 1 aircraft type as a 787?
For instance, I know United flies a 787 between DEN and IAH, however the flight numbers take a bit to find and they change in time, so if I am doing a calendar search I have to get the new flight numbers.
So if I were planning a trip from DEN-IAH-AUS and return could I search something like:
DEN:: o:ua / aircraft t:787 iah o:ua AUS
OR
One or more legs with one or more being a 787
DEN:: o:ua+ / aircraft t:787+ AUS
For instance, I know United flies a 787 between DEN and IAH, however the flight numbers take a bit to find and they change in time, so if I am doing a calendar search I have to get the new flight numbers.
So if I were planning a trip from DEN-IAH-AUS and return could I search something like:
DEN:: o:ua / aircraft t:787 iah o:ua AUS
OR
One or more legs with one or more being a 787
DEN:: o:ua+ / aircraft t:787+ AUS
Jun 14, 2013, 12:14 pm
#353
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: ORD
Programs: DL DM, AS MVP Gold 100K, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 300
ITA returning more expensive fares
Hi all,
I noticed an abnormality while searching on ITA. For example, here is a routing
10/1 FRA-GRU
10/8 GRU-FRA
10/15 FRA-GRU
10/22 GRU-FRA
I am also using a FD but for obvious reasons, I will not post here.
The base fares from FRA-GRU are $163 roundtrip while GRU-FRA is $1151. ITA is constructing it as follows:
FRA-GRU $81.48
GRU-FRA $575.50
FRA-GRU $575.50
GRU-FRA $81.48
Is there anyway to force ITA to give me the lower base fare and thus making my FD more effective? Thanks in advance.
I noticed an abnormality while searching on ITA. For example, here is a routing
10/1 FRA-GRU
10/8 GRU-FRA
10/15 FRA-GRU
10/22 GRU-FRA
I am also using a FD but for obvious reasons, I will not post here.
The base fares from FRA-GRU are $163 roundtrip while GRU-FRA is $1151. ITA is constructing it as follows:
FRA-GRU $81.48
GRU-FRA $575.50
FRA-GRU $575.50
GRU-FRA $81.48
Is there anyway to force ITA to give me the lower base fare and thus making my FD more effective? Thanks in advance.
Jun 23, 2013, 7:55 am
#354
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 644
ITA Matrix FCO-JFK price
I am trying to book FCO-JFK July 7 and on ita matrix , finnair shows up very cheap compared to other prices. Its operated by AA and fare code HPR0IT, booking code H. I called finnair and they cant price it out as shown on ita $1,440)
I see these cheap prices time to time but cant book them. What am I doing wrong?
I see these cheap prices time to time but cant book them. What am I doing wrong?
Jun 23, 2013, 11:22 am
#358
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 644
I followed the directions on the app where it reads"how to book"
Jun 23, 2013, 12:44 pm
#359
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Southern California
Programs: Hyatt Explorist, HH Gold, SPG Gold, National EC Executive, AA Platinum
Posts: 606
