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ITA Matrix Search: http://matrix.itasoftware.com

You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.

A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.

Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:

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Old Mar 29, 19, 6:30 am
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Have you tried the ITA Matrix Powertools?
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Old Mar 29, 19, 7:01 am
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Powertools worked!

I tried to use it some time ago, but installation process put me off. Now I installed it and am amazed Curious thing: after opening the route from ITA Matrix in Momondo, return flight is different (connecting in VIE instead of ZRH), but in general, it works
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Old May 16, 19, 12:30 pm
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I have a 4 leg flight, and I would like to force a layover after the third leg. Are there any codes for this puprose?
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Old May 16, 19, 12:42 pm
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Split it into a multi-city search, then use the minconnect option.
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Old May 16, 19, 12:59 pm
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I currently have flights like so: TLL-HEL-LHR-PHL-YYZ-LGA.
What would be the smart way to split it up so that I could have a longer time in YYZ?
I can't get into the same fare really when doing TLL-HEL-LHR-PHL and then YYZ-LGA.

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Old May 16, 19, 3:43 pm
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Originally Posted by vanaema78 View Post
I currently have flights like so: TLL-HEL-LHR-PHL-YYZ-LGA.
What would be the smart way to split it up so that I could have a longer time in YYZ?
I can't get into the same fare really when doing TLL-HEL-LHR-PHL and then YYZ-LGA.
What happens if you split the search into TLL-HEL-LHR-PHL-YYZ and then YYZ-LGA? Or if you split it into TLL-HEL-LHR-PHL and PHL-YYZ-LGA with a minconnect switch for that connection?
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Old May 16, 19, 3:45 pm
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Maybe there is no possible layover connection (<24h) in that booking class and stopovers aren't allowed in the fare rules?
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Old May 16, 19, 4:30 pm
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You both might be right. Splitting it like Globaliser suggested does not give any good results.
I was trying to recreate a fare that a travel agent quoted to me, but no luck. The fare code itself is quoted between TLL and NYC.
Funny that I even have some training on amadeus, but no longer the opportunity of having fun in the GDS.
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Old May 30, 19, 4:26 am
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Hi guys, could you help me with this command

"alliance oneworld; f bc=H; NYC :: / minconnect 10:00"

I want a long connection in JFK but a short connection in LHR
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Old May 30, 19, 6:49 am
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That is literally answered right above your question.
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Old Jun 8, 19, 7:37 am
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Probably asked this before, but does anyone know how Matrix handles married segments?
Looking to book an AC/CA itinerary on AC ticket stock but Matrix constantly shows a cheaper fare than can be found via AC/OTAs
Matrix shows P class availability but can only access Z via AC/OTAs. Even Expertflyer doesn't really show P class availability on the O-D search or the TPAC segment (but does if I search AC Canada-Asia segment without including CA segment).
Is this an issue with Matrix's handling of married segments, failure to search inventory in real-time, or something else?
Would love to ticket at P class but having difficult doing so via AC/OTA (even BookWithMatrix doesn't work). Any thoughts?
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Old Jun 10, 19, 4:20 am
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Probably asked this before, but does anyone know how Matrix handles married segments?
If an airline is playing married sector games, then ITA won't always produce reliable results because of the way that it works. AIUI, the Matrix tool does not look up availability in real time for the requested itinerary but uses cached sector-by-sector availability results. My impression is that it will therefore construct and price itineraries for which there is availability when asked for sector by sector, but if a real-time search results in the airline denying inventory in the required class when the entire itinerary is asked for because of married sector games, then ITA will not detect that.

EF is a better guide to true real-time availability in these situations, because it does make a real-time request of the airline for the requested itinerary.

This is one of the reasons that someone who values these travel tools should always be prepared to use them in combination.
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Old Jun 11, 19, 1:54 am
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Originally Posted by Globaliser View Post
If an airline is playing married sector games, then ITA won't always produce reliable results because of the way that it works. AIUI, the Matrix tool does not look up availability in real time for the requested itinerary but uses cached sector-by-sector availability results. My impression is that it will therefore construct and price itineraries for which there is availability when asked for sector by sector, but if a real-time search results in the airline denying inventory in the required class when the entire itinerary is asked for because of married sector games, then ITA will not detect that.

EF is a better guide to true real-time availability in these situations, because it does make a real-time request of the airline for the requested itinerary.

This is one of the reasons that someone who values these travel tools should always be prepared to use them in combination.
Thanks for the reply. Sadly, this is along the lines of what I was expecting to hear. Though it seems slightly strange to me too - ITA can pull up booking class P, but I have checked multiple times with EF using every single combination of O-D, origin-connection, and connection-connection to try and see P class, but all I can see is Z class. Any suggestions as to why I can't find this mythical P class?
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Old Jun 11, 19, 6:01 am
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Originally Posted by hydrogen View Post
ITA can pull up booking class P, but I have checked multiple times with EF using every single combination of O-D, origin-connection, and connection-connection to try and see P class, but all I can see is Z class. Any suggestions as to why I can't find this mythical P class?
Do you mean that using EF you can see Z class but you can't see P class at all? Or is it that you can see positive numbers in Z class but only zeroes in P class?

At any rate, if ITA is returning a result that prices using P class, have you tried checking availability using EF sector by sector? If so, you may find that there is P class on each individual sector, but that the airline will not sell you a P class seat for the through-itinerary.

Other than that, it's very hard to suggest any more ideas in the abstract.
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Old Jun 12, 19, 3:50 pm
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Originally Posted by hydrogen View Post
Probably asked this before, but does anyone know how Matrix handles married segments?
Looking to book an AC/CA itinerary on AC ticket stock but Matrix constantly shows a cheaper fare than can be found via AC/OTAs
Matrix shows P class availability but can only access Z via AC/OTAs. Even Expertflyer doesn't really show P class availability on the O-D search or the TPAC segment (but does if I search AC Canada-Asia segment without including CA segment).
Is this an issue with Matrix's handling of married segments, failure to search inventory in real-time, or something else?
Would love to ticket at P class but having difficult doing so via AC/OTA (even BookWithMatrix doesn't work). Any thoughts?
Post a screenshot of what you're trying to book, much easier then to help
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