Jun 4, 2014, 6:07 pm
Last edit by: TWA884
ITA Matrix Search: http://matrix.itasoftware.com
You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.
A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.
Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:
You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.
A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.
Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:
ITA Software Matrix Airfare Search Consolidated Information and Help Thread
Nov 29, 2018, 3:19 pm
#1816
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 145
I have been looking at fares with ITA Matrix to the Far East and NZ for next year and have found the best prices and itineraries that come up are with Swiss Airlines for the dates that I'm interested in. Now the Numpty question - Is it possible to book these itineraries direct with Swiss Airlines call centre (will they know what I'm talking about by quoting the fare code/booking class for each leg) or do I have to go through one of the online agents?
I did do a search on this thread but there's so much info I couldn't weed out the info I was looking for.
Thanks for any help that I might receive.
I did do a search on this thread but there's so much info I couldn't weed out the info I was looking for.
Thanks for any help that I might receive.
Nov 30, 2018, 9:05 am
#1818
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: DXB
Programs: Marriott Titanium Elite, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, BA Silver, A3 Gold, Sixt Diamond
Posts: 2,810
Just ask here, if it's a few times per year, someone will be able to look availability up for you. You can PM me for example, I have an ExpertFlyer subscription.
Dec 13, 2018, 8:59 pm
#1819
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,607
I haven't checked the whole thread to see if this is a known issue. Sorry if it's been thrashed out recently.
I'm like 99.9% sure it used to be possible to search on matrix for flights from long lists of airports to long lists. But now it just says "Journeys with origins in multiple countries are not supported." This is crazy frustrating as dealing with cases where you're flexible about airports is one of the main things it handled better than other search engines.
I'm like 99.9% sure it used to be possible to search on matrix for flights from long lists of airports to long lists. But now it just says "Journeys with origins in multiple countries are not supported." This is crazy frustrating as dealing with cases where you're flexible about airports is one of the main things it handled better than other search engines.
Dec 13, 2018, 10:45 pm
#1820
Join Date: May 2001
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SEMM
Posts: 2,072
I haven't checked the whole thread to see if this is a known issue. Sorry if it's been thrashed out recently.
I'm like 99.9% sure it used to be possible to search on matrix for flights from long lists of airports to long lists. But now it just says "Journeys with origins in multiple countries are not supported." This is crazy frustrating as dealing with cases where you're flexible about airports is one of the main things it handled better than other search engines.
I'm like 99.9% sure it used to be possible to search on matrix for flights from long lists of airports to long lists. But now it just says "Journeys with origins in multiple countries are not supported." This is crazy frustrating as dealing with cases where you're flexible about airports is one of the main things it handled better than other search engines.
Dec 17, 2018, 4:51 pm
#1821
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: TPA/ABZ
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold. GGL/CCR.
Posts: 13,243
I haven't checked the whole thread to see if this is a known issue. Sorry if it's been thrashed out recently.
I'm like 99.9% sure it used to be possible to search on matrix for flights from long lists of airports to long lists. But now it just says "Journeys with origins in multiple countries are not supported." This is crazy frustrating as dealing with cases where you're flexible about airports is one of the main things it handled better than other search engines.
I'm like 99.9% sure it used to be possible to search on matrix for flights from long lists of airports to long lists. But now it just says "Journeys with origins in multiple countries are not supported." This is crazy frustrating as dealing with cases where you're flexible about airports is one of the main things it handled better than other search engines.
Around this point in the this thread:
ITA Software Matrix Airfare Search Consolidated Information and Help Thread
Dec 22, 2018, 1:34 pm
#1822
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 134
ITA Matrix: How can I do an open ended search?
Example: I want to see all routes offered by American out of DFW that are at most 500 miles.
Is this possible with Matrix? I know I can do something like this on Google Flights which uses it in the backend.
Thanks in advance!
Is this possible with Matrix? I know I can do something like this on Google Flights which uses it in the backend.
Thanks in advance!
Dec 22, 2018, 10:37 pm
#1823
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Melbourne
Programs: ►QFWP/LTG►VA WP►HyattExpl.►HiltonGold►ALL Silver
Posts: 21,991
Select 'Nearby'.
Select "Within 500 Miles" from the pop up.
Deselect DFW in the pop up.
Click in Outside the popup box - the destination box get filled with all ports within 500 miles of DFW.
Select Advanced Controls
Enter AA
Search ...
Note that for a round trip search you may return a price for DFW-AAA and BBB-DFW when AAA and BBB are further apart from each other than they are from DFW.
Jan 2, 2019, 3:31 am
#1824
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: IAH
Posts: 488
Is there a way to search Matrix that if you select premium economy, for segments that don't have that, it returns economy, rather than business. The flight out of my home airport is a simple J/Y configuration and is hellishly expensive, so when it returns J for a GUW->FRA->IAH/DFW/ORD (pick your US city of choice), it ends up costing as much as a full business ticket would cost.
Jan 2, 2019, 6:00 am
#1825
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: DXB
Programs: Marriott Titanium Elite, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, BA Silver, A3 Gold, Sixt Diamond
Posts: 2,810
I’m not sure, but I don’t think there’s any other way than splitting it into a multi-stop booking, selecting “cheapest available” and then manually specifying +cabin for each segment where you want PE.
Jan 2, 2019, 6:24 am
#1826
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: TPA/ABZ
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold. GGL/CCR.
Posts: 13,243
Is there a way to search Matrix that if you select premium economy, for segments that don't have that, it returns economy, rather than business. The flight out of my home airport is a simple J/Y configuration and is hellishly expensive, so when it returns J for a GUW->FRA->IAH/DFW/ORD (pick your US city of choice), it ends up costing as much as a full business ticket would cost.
Jan 9, 2019, 8:20 pm
#1827
Join Date: Nov 2009
Programs: BAEC, SPG, Virgin Flying Club
Posts: 124
A change to address this problem was committed to the script in the GitHub repository, but the version number was not incremented. This prevents the script from automatically updating to the "latest" version.
The easiest way to get the latest version is to delete the script from the GreaseMonkey or TamperMonkey dashboard and re-install it. Some links to how-to docs:
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-m...onkey-scripts/
https://www.wikihow.com/Delete-a-Script-in-Tampermonkey
The easiest way to get the latest version is to delete the script from the GreaseMonkey or TamperMonkey dashboard and re-install it. Some links to how-to docs:
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-m...onkey-scripts/
https://www.wikihow.com/Delete-a-Script-in-Tampermonkey
(technically I know that might not be a script problem any more, but as it’s happening across so many different itineries / routes / dates, does anyone know what might be causing this:
I’ve spent a few fun hours switching browsers, toggling the Powertools off in tampermonkey, and used phone + browser (so, no Powertoolsat all) and still get the same problem: I find itineraries in ITAMatrix others have posted, but then going through to book (pasting into bookwithmatrix, or Powertools on and clicking through) always finds that fare not available at the carrier / Priceline
any ideas
?
Jan 10, 2019, 1:34 am
#1828
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 639
Since we're such a nice community, I went ahead and reproduced the itinerary for you 
Yes, it shows on ITA and yes, you are right, cant be purchased on priceline,...
I also replicated it in Amadeus:
AA 300 I 06JUL 6 JFKLAX NOT AVAILABLE AND WAITLIST CLOSED
As well as:
AY1343 I 09JUL 2 HELLHR NOT AVAILABLE AND WAITLIST CLOSED
So the script works, just ITA doesn't always show correct availability.
Since not everyone has access to a GDS you could go ahead and get an expertflyer account, there you can also check if the needed flights are available in the given classes.
Also since you're based in LON and you're doing an airport change to avoid flying back to AMS, make sure you book such itineraries with an OTA and never with the airline directly. Even better to pay by PayPal / Giropay / IDEAL/ ...
AA/AY/BA has sent out quite a few letters to customers asking for fare difference since its clear that it was never intended to fly the last segment but was used to circumvent the higher price back to LON.
If you book directly with the airline, you accept their t&c including allowing fare differences, when booking through an OTA most of the time t&c are not correctly included and therefore invalid.
Yes, it shows on ITA and yes, you are right, cant be purchased on priceline,...
I also replicated it in Amadeus:
AA 300 I 06JUL 6 JFKLAX NOT AVAILABLE AND WAITLIST CLOSED
As well as:
AY1343 I 09JUL 2 HELLHR NOT AVAILABLE AND WAITLIST CLOSED
So the script works, just ITA doesn't always show correct availability.
Since not everyone has access to a GDS you could go ahead and get an expertflyer account, there you can also check if the needed flights are available in the given classes.
Also since you're based in LON and you're doing an airport change to avoid flying back to AMS, make sure you book such itineraries with an OTA and never with the airline directly. Even better to pay by PayPal / Giropay / IDEAL/ ...
AA/AY/BA has sent out quite a few letters to customers asking for fare difference since its clear that it was never intended to fly the last segment but was used to circumvent the higher price back to LON.
If you book directly with the airline, you accept their t&c including allowing fare differences, when booking through an OTA most of the time t&c are not correctly included and therefore invalid.
Jan 28, 2019, 4:52 pm
#1829
Join Date: Jun 2011
Programs: AA EXP, UA 1K, DL GM, AS MVP75K
Posts: 72
Missing Nonstop Flights
Was looking NYC-MIA for nonstop flights on specific dates in March that were wide open, and ITA was returning displays that clearly didn't include some flights. Eventually I got to it by narrowing to just one airline and taking the availability selector off. As I said - all flights were wide open, so it wasn't a case of mistaken availability. I'm getting this more and more where ITA is missing huge chunks of possible flights - so is this a matter of peak usage? momentary glitches?
I know the old issue of where you have too many options [all cities within 2000 miles etc] it will time out the search - but for simple/narrow searches I don't get it.
I know the old issue of where you have too many options [all cities within 2000 miles etc] it will time out the search - but for simple/narrow searches I don't get it.
Jan 28, 2019, 4:58 pm
#1830
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
Was looking NYC-MIA for nonstop flights on specific dates in March that were wide open, and ITA was returning displays that clearly didn't include some flights. Eventually I got to it by narrowing to just one airline and taking the availability selector off. As I said - all flights were wide open, so it wasn't a case of mistaken availability. I'm getting this more and more where ITA is missing huge chunks of possible flights - so is this a matter of peak usage? momentary glitches?
I know the old issue of where you have too many options [all cities within 2000 miles etc] it will time out the search - but for simple/narrow searches I don't get it.
I know the old issue of where you have too many options [all cities within 2000 miles etc] it will time out the search - but for simple/narrow searches I don't get it.
I agree that the selection of the result population it finds has changed in recent months.