ITA Software Matrix Airfare Search Consolidated Information and Help Thread
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Jun 7, 18, 6:16 am
#1666
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A new feature needs to be added if they are not going to allow multiple countries. We need the ability to select the radius of nearby airports but be able to specify ONLY in the same country as the initial airport entered.
Its a PITA at the moment sifting through and finding which ones aren't in the same country when you select, say, 300 mile radius.
Its a PITA at the moment sifting through and finding which ones aren't in the same country when you select, say, 300 mile radius.
Jun 7, 18, 10:16 am
#1667
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Originally Posted by Sisyphus1carus
A new feature needs to be added if they are not going to allow multiple countries. We need the ability to select the radius of nearby airports but be able to specify ONLY in the same country as the initial airport entered.
Its a PITA at the moment sifting through and finding which ones aren't in the same country when you select, say, 300 mile radius.
Its a PITA at the moment sifting through and finding which ones aren't in the same country when you select, say, 300 mile radius.
Jun 7, 18, 4:46 pm
#1669
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Originally Posted by aktchi
Anybody figured out how to avoid Basic Economy?
Jun 7, 18, 8:13 pm
#1670
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Originally Posted by aktchi
Anybody figured out how to avoid Basic Economy?
Originally Posted by windwalker
Any way to exclude all basic economy fares ?
OW flights(RDU-SAN)
I've tried
f ~bc=e n b
f ~bc=E ~bc=B ~bc=N
f ~(bc=e bc=b bc=n)
It's my understanding that Basic economy for
UA=N
AA=B
DL=E
OW flights(RDU-SAN)
I've tried
f ~bc=e n b
f ~bc=E ~bc=B ~bc=N
f ~(bc=e bc=b bc=n)
It's my understanding that Basic economy for
UA=N
AA=B
DL=E
Originally Posted by psbaj
Try this: f ~(ua,bc=N|aa,bc=B|dl,bc=E)
Jun 7, 18, 10:08 pm
#1671
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Originally Posted by EsherFlyer
On which airline? On BA for example ITA gives Plus fare results.
Jun 8, 18, 3:26 am
#1673
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This has already been answered in the past.
Basic economy is not a different class of travel (after all, it’s the same seat), so you have to figure out the booking classes for your specific airline and then filter based on that.
There is no way for ITA to know if a fare is “basic” or “regular” economy.
Basic economy is not a different class of travel (after all, it’s the same seat), so you have to figure out the booking classes for your specific airline and then filter based on that.
There is no way for ITA to know if a fare is “basic” or “regular” economy.
Jun 8, 18, 4:30 am
#1674
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Originally Posted by ChocolateFactory
This has already been answered in the past.
Basic economy is not a different class of travel (after all, it’s the same seat), so you have to figure out the booking classes for your specific airline and then filter based on that.
There is no way for ITA to know if a fare is “basic” or “regular” economy.
Basic economy is not a different class of travel (after all, it’s the same seat), so you have to figure out the booking classes for your specific airline and then filter based on that.
There is no way for ITA to know if a fare is “basic” or “regular” economy.
Jun 8, 18, 3:51 pm
#1675
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Originally Posted by EsherFlyer
Even that doesn't always work. BA offer same fare bucket (say L) as Basic which is handbaggage only or Plus with checked bag and free change on day of travel. Hence my question as to what sub-OP was looking for. ITA can find L availability and will give Plus price. Basic can then usually be booked as well at chosen point of sale.
Jun 8, 18, 3:59 pm
#1676
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Originally Posted by Calchas
BA's basic economy fares are currently filed as private fares, so IATA doesn't see them.
Jun 8, 18, 9:43 pm
#1677
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Originally Posted by slickvik
Thanks, I found it on cheapoair, is this site legit?
Originally Posted by ChocolateFactory
I don’t think I’ve booked with Cheapoair, but I think they’re legit, yes. At least they show up on Kayak, Momondo etc. all the time.
Jun 8, 18, 10:03 pm
#1678
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Thank you everyone for your responses re Basic Economy and ITA. It makes sense that BE is not a separate cabin and thus not differentiated by ITA (except via booking code). An airline's own site will of course explain which fare is which. However, OTAs and partners won't.
This means that in complex itineraries involving multiple airlines, you could inadvertently find yourself in a flight without checked luggage or seat-selection privileges.
This happened to me on a JL segment in a complex itinerary involving AA, CX, MH, and JL. As a OneWorld Emerald, I received the normal elite treatment on the first three carriers, but JL wouldn't even let me choose a seat till very close to the flight date. Ironically this is something you can routinely do on various airlines where you don't even have a status.
For example, I have no relationship with Air Asia, but during the same trip could choose decent seats on their flights for a small fee. At JL I was completely locked out. (It seems that the only way out is to research each segment's booking code and then call to up-fare while purchasing. What a pain.)
This means that in complex itineraries involving multiple airlines, you could inadvertently find yourself in a flight without checked luggage or seat-selection privileges.
This happened to me on a JL segment in a complex itinerary involving AA, CX, MH, and JL. As a OneWorld Emerald, I received the normal elite treatment on the first three carriers, but JL wouldn't even let me choose a seat till very close to the flight date. Ironically this is something you can routinely do on various airlines where you don't even have a status.
For example, I have no relationship with Air Asia, but during the same trip could choose decent seats on their flights for a small fee. At JL I was completely locked out. (It seems that the only way out is to research each segment's booking code and then call to up-fare while purchasing. What a pain.)
Last edited by aktchi; Jun 9, 18 at 10:45 pm Reason: Typo
Jun 9, 18, 2:06 am
#1679
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Originally Posted by Sisyphus1carus
Anyone got lists of airports broken out by country which can be cut & pasted into ITA ?
Any chance I can get a copy ?!
Any chance I can get a copy ?!
Jun 9, 18, 2:31 am
#1680
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Originally Posted by aktchi
(It seems that the only way out is to research each segment's booking code and then call to up-fare while purchasing. What a pain.)
Also on a multiple segment single ticket the IATA rule on baggage allowances or the US DoT rule may take precedence over a carrier’s normal policies.
