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ITA Matrix Search: http://matrix.itasoftware.com

You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.

A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.

Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:

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Old Jun 7, 18, 6:16 am
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A new feature needs to be added if they are not going to allow multiple countries. We need the ability to select the radius of nearby airports but be able to specify ONLY in the same country as the initial airport entered.
Its a PITA at the moment sifting through and finding which ones aren't in the same country when you select, say, 300 mile radius.
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Old Jun 7, 18, 10:16 am
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Originally Posted by Sisyphus1carus View Post
A new feature needs to be added if they are not going to allow multiple countries. We need the ability to select the radius of nearby airports but be able to specify ONLY in the same country as the initial airport entered.
Its a PITA at the moment sifting through and finding which ones aren't in the same country when you select, say, 300 mile radius.
That should be the default / only behaviour: nearby airports limits to same country as the base one.
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Old Jun 7, 18, 3:55 pm
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Anybody figured out how to avoid Basic Economy?
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Old Jun 7, 18, 4:46 pm
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Originally Posted by aktchi View Post
Anybody figured out how to avoid Basic Economy?
On which airline? On BA for example ITA gives Plus fare results.
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Old Jun 7, 18, 8:13 pm
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Originally Posted by aktchi View Post
Anybody figured out how to avoid Basic Economy?
If you mean across multiple airlines, then presuming you know the relevant fare codes:

Originally Posted by windwalker View Post
Any way to exclude all basic economy fares ?
OW flights(RDU-SAN)
I've tried
f ~bc=e n b
f ~bc=E ~bc=B ~bc=N
f ~(bc=e bc=b bc=n)

It's my understanding that Basic economy for
UA=N
AA=B
DL=E
Originally Posted by psbaj View Post
Try this: f ~(ua,bc=N|aa,bc=B|dl,bc=E)
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Old Jun 7, 18, 10:08 pm
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Originally Posted by EsherFlyer View Post
On which airline? On BA for example ITA gives Plus fare results.
None in particular. Just exclude basic economy. Like ITA lets you exclude all economy fares or all business fares.
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Old Jun 8, 18, 3:16 am
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I think "basic" is used in different ways by different folk and airlines. Do you mean wanting to travel in premium economy type cabins?
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Old Jun 8, 18, 3:26 am
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This has already been answered in the past.
Basic economy is not a different class of travel (after all, it’s the same seat), so you have to figure out the booking classes for your specific airline and then filter based on that.
There is no way for ITA to know if a fare is “basic” or “regular” economy.
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Old Jun 8, 18, 4:30 am
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Originally Posted by ChocolateFactory View Post
This has already been answered in the past.
Basic economy is not a different class of travel (after all, it’s the same seat), so you have to figure out the booking classes for your specific airline and then filter based on that.
There is no way for ITA to know if a fare is “basic” or “regular” economy.
Even that doesn't always work. BA offer same fare bucket (say L) as Basic which is handbaggage only or Plus with checked bag and free change on day of travel. Hence my question as to what sub-OP was looking for. ITA can find L availability and will give Plus price. Basic can then usually be booked as well at chosen point of sale.
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Old Jun 8, 18, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by EsherFlyer View Post
Even that doesn't always work. BA offer same fare bucket (say L) as Basic which is handbaggage only or Plus with checked bag and free change on day of travel. Hence my question as to what sub-OP was looking for. ITA can find L availability and will give Plus price. Basic can then usually be booked as well at chosen point of sale.
BA's basic economy fares are currently filed as private fares, so IATA doesn't see them.
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Old Jun 8, 18, 3:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Calchas View Post
BA's basic economy fares are currently filed as private fares, so IATA doesn't see them.
Agreed, and without knowing which airline(s) or type of travel the requestor was asking about it's unclear how those fares are represented (or not) on ITA.
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Old Jun 8, 18, 9:43 pm
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Originally Posted by slickvik View Post
Thanks, I found it on cheapoair, is this site legit?
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I don’t think I’ve booked with Cheapoair, but I think they’re legit, yes. At least they show up on Kayak, Momondo etc. all the time.
I have used CheapoAir. They are definitely legit, but don't expect a lot of customer service in unusual / unexpected circumstances. IIRC (but no guarantees) they are now part of the Expedia empire.
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Thank you everyone for your responses re Basic Economy and ITA. It makes sense that BE is not a separate cabin and thus not differentiated by ITA (except via booking code). An airline's own site will of course explain which fare is which. However, OTAs and partners won't.

This means that in complex itineraries involving multiple airlines, you could inadvertently find yourself in a flight without checked luggage or seat-selection privileges.

This happened to me on a JL segment in a complex itinerary involving AA, CX, MH, and JL. As a OneWorld Emerald, I received the normal elite treatment on the first three carriers, but JL wouldn't even let me choose a seat till very close to the flight date. Ironically this is something you can routinely do on various airlines where you don't even have a status. For example, I have no relationship with Air Asia, but during the same trip could choose decent seats on their flights for a small fee. At JL I was completely locked out. (It seems that the only way out is to research each segment's booking code and then call to up-fare while purchasing. What a pain.)

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Old Jun 9, 18, 2:06 am
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Originally Posted by Sisyphus1carus View Post
Anyone got lists of airports broken out by country which can be cut & pasted into ITA ?
Any chance I can get a copy ?!
Why not use the 'nearby' feature in ITA Matrix?
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Old Jun 9, 18, 2:31 am
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Originally Posted by aktchi View Post
(It seems that the only way out is to research each segment's booking code and then call to up-fare while purchasing. What a pain.)
That’s not sufficient because not every carrier distinguishes basic economy by booking code.

Also on a multiple segment single ticket the IATA rule on baggage allowances or the US DoT rule may take precedence over a carrier’s normal policies.
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