ITA Software Matrix Airfare Search Consolidated Information and Help Thread
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May 28, 18, 5:34 pm
#1651
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: ORD
Programs: AA, UA, GE
Posts: 4,721
Originally Posted by ChocolateFactory
Oh. I just realized how much harder this makes finding cheap open-jaw flights. :/
For outbound flights, it’s just more work, but for open-jaw flights, it becomes almost impossible.
For outbound flights, it’s just more work, but for open-jaw flights, it becomes almost impossible.
May 30, 18, 5:25 am
#1653
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: London
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Posts: 38,636
Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
flying into one and returning out of another city still should work. It's the origin that can't be multi-country
Perhaps the intention was to reduce the load on the system by deterring those users who want to do every possible search using only the round-trip tab, while leaving it available to handle such requests from those who have learned how to use all of the search screens?
May 30, 18, 5:31 am
#1654
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 1,538
Originally Posted by Globaliser
Perhaps the intention was to reduce the load on the system by deterring those users who want to do every possible search using only the round-trip tab, while leaving it available to handle such requests from those who have learned how to use all of the search screens?
May 30, 18, 9:58 am
#1655
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: DXB
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Posts: 2,521
Say I don’t care if I fly from ARN, CPH or OSL to MIA and back (ARN-X-MIA-X-CPH would be fine).
How would using the separate screens help?
Sure, from MIA I can fly to all cities, but I still have to make 3 searches...?
How would using the separate screens help?
Sure, from MIA I can fly to all cities, but I still have to make 3 searches...?
May 30, 18, 10:48 am
#1656
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Originally Posted by ChocolateFactory
For outbound flights, it’s just more work, but for open-jaw flights, it becomes almost impossible.
Originally Posted by ChocolateFactory
Say I don’t care if I fly from ARN, CPH or OSL to MIA and back (ARN-X-MIA-X-CPH would be fine).
How would using the separate screens help?
Sure, from MIA I can fly to all cities, but I still have to make 3 searches...?
How would using the separate screens help?
Sure, from MIA I can fly to all cities, but I still have to make 3 searches...?
Old search:-
ARN,CPH,OSL
MIA
New searches:-
ARN
MIA
MIA
ARN,CPH,OSL
CPH
MIA
MIA
ARN,CPH,OSL
OSL
MIA
MIA
ARN,CPH,OSL
Yes, it's a bit more work. But we've had "total disaster", "virtually useless" and "almost impossible", amongst other epithets. I'm almost tempted to suggest that if this really is too much effort for some people, they don't deserve the benefit of the power that this tool still provides.
May 30, 18, 11:43 am
#1657
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2010
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Originally Posted by Globaliser
Yes, it's a bit more work. But we've had "total disaster", "virtually useless" and "almost impossible", amongst other epithets. I'm almost tempted to suggest that if this really is too much effort for some people, they don't deserve the benefit of the power that this tool still provides.
May 30, 18, 1:47 pm
#1658
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: DXB
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Yes, it's 3 searches in that example. In that example I could simply use Google Flights as well.
But the real advantage was being able to search many, many more airports at the same time. And that is gone.
But the real advantage was being able to search many, many more airports at the same time. And that is gone.
May 30, 18, 6:16 pm
#1659
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: London, UK
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Posts: 1,538
Originally Posted by ChocolateFactory
But the real advantage was being able to search many, many more airports at the same time. And that is gone.
May 31, 18, 2:10 am
#1660
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Originally Posted by armouredant
Originally Posted by ChocolateFactory
But the real advantage was being able to search many, many more airports at the same time. And that is gone.
I think we're all agreed that it's a bit more effort now, but it sounds like many of those who are immediately giving up (or being irrationally rude about the change) were wrongly expecting ITA to be a magic bullet that would instantly give you perfect answers no matter how complex the query.
May 31, 18, 10:55 pm
#1662
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: New England
Programs: DL GM, UA, B6, AA, WN, AS, AGR
Posts: 4,731
ITA can only search carriers who have opted to join the global GDS network for partner/agency pricing and ticketing. LCCs typically do not join the global network as they often do not allow other airline/agency ticketing, since they need to control their cost structure.
Jun 6, 18, 11:58 am
#1663
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: NYC
Programs: UA
Posts: 36
Is anyone else's searches timing out for very simple requests from certain airports? For example, it happens when I search for a simple round trip from MUC to SYD on QF with ± 2 days on the departure dates, but this same query departing from LHR works fine. Very frustrating.
Also, is there a way to avoid the "internal error?" I currently have to refresh before each new search.
Also, is there a way to avoid the "internal error?" I currently have to refresh before each new search.
Jun 6, 18, 1:11 pm
#1665
Join Date: Oct 2004
Programs: DL Gold
Posts: 852
Anybody know of a good way (either using BookWithMatrix or some other trick) to price out an itinerary found on ITA, but as an award? BWM worked great for a paid itinerary that DL.com would not normally price out (nearly 24 hour layover on an international connection), but I’m trying to buy 1 ticket with money and 1 ticket with miles on this itinerary.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
