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Searches currently not working:

Upgrades - AY, BA, EK, EY, IB, QR, VS
Awards - AY, BA, IB, EY, QR, VS

To search AA upgrades:

Use the Award & Upgrade tool
Only search for individual segments (set the "Connection Preference" drop-down to "Direct/Non-Stop only"). Flight results that are part of a connection won't show the upgrade version of C or A inventory because AA only files upgrade inventory as individual, not married, segments. (Married segments show revenue inventory instead of upgrade inventory.)
To avoid confusion, check the "Exclude Codeshares" box, as AA awards and upgrades are not valid on codeshares.

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May 27, 2018, 2:50 pm

#1711

MasterGeek

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Is it true that Turkish Airlines and some other airlines report J4 (NOT J9) availability even when 9 or more J class seats are available ?

May 29, 2018, 11:32 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterGeek

Is it true that Turkish Airlines and some other airlines report J4 (NOT J9) availability even when 9 or more J class seats are available ?

Yes each airline determines the maximum that a class code will show, usually 4, 7 or 9.

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May 29, 2018, 2:20 pm

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From which GDS does EF access its data

May 29, 2018, 5:15 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pandaperth

From which GDS does EF access its data

Multiple, depending on the search.

May 29, 2018, 8:52 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pandaperth

From which GDS does EF access its data

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice

Multiple, depending on the search.

For air fare searches, specifically when looking at oneworld RTW fares

Jun 1, 2018, 3:07 am

#1716

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Seems EF is having some problems displaying fares when the user specifies more than one airline

For example:
Origin and Destination both SEZ
Airlines BA, QR and UL
No fares returned
(in this specific case, neither QR nor UL have any fares)

Specify BA on its own, and its fares are displayed

Jun 1, 2018, 10:01 am

#1717

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pandaperth

There is not a problem. We get BA fares from a different source than the default for the search, but the system can only know to do that if BA is the only airline specified in the search.

Jun 1, 2018, 7:46 pm

#1718

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https://www.expertflyer.com/air/clas...AirlineCode=SQ
SQ used to use Class Code R = first class suiqtes

For the new SQ21/22/25/26 Premium Economy fares, SQ seems to use R = cheapest premium economy fare

Fare Infomration
Fare basis: RAP21TAO, booking class R, cabin shows up as PF (premium first)
SINGAPORE AIRLINES TRANSATLANTIC PREMIUM ECONOMY SPECIAL

Flight Availability also shows R = first class suites. the count and position seems to reflect the correct PE data, just the description is incorrect
Z4 C4 J4 U4 D4 S9 T9 P4 R4

example:
fare info search
Departing EWR
Arriving SIN
10/30/18-11/13/18
Airline SQ

Last edited by paperwastage; Jun 1, 2018 at 9:09 pm

Jun 1, 2018, 10:05 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paperwastage

https://www.expertflyer.com/air/classList.do?query=preferredClass&limit=1&searchAi rlineCode=SQ
SQ used to use Class Code R = first class suiqtes

For the new SQ21/22/25/26 Premium Economy fares, SQ seems to use R = cheapest premium economy fare

Fare Infomration
Fare basis: RAP21TAO, booking class R, cabin shows up as PF (premium first)
SINGAPORE AIRLINES TRANSATLANTIC PREMIUM ECONOMY SPECIAL

Flight Availability also shows R = first class suites. the count and position seems to reflect the correct PE data, just the description is incorrect
Z4 C4 J4 U4 D4 S9 T9 P4 R4

example:
fare info search
Departing EWR
Arriving SIN
10/30/18-11/13/18
Airline SQ

If you want to alert us to a class code description issue please email us directly at [email protected]. Thank you!

Last edited by ExpertFlyer Voice; Jun 1, 2018 at 10:18 pm

Jun 3, 2018, 9:56 am

#1720

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Would it be possible to have a seat alert warn me that is seat is being taken, rather than becoming available? It would be very useful to get a notification if the free middle seat is being taken...as that means that it is time to move.

Jun 3, 2018, 10:13 am

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Is there a way to search for XN (economy award availability for elites) on UA using Expertflyer? I thought EF displayed that booking class in the past, but can't seem to find it anymore.

Jun 3, 2018, 9:57 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Xandrios

I'm sorry Seat Alerts do not operate in that way, however thank you for the suggestion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jasper2009

Is there a way to search for XN (economy award availability for elites) on UA using Expertflyer? I thought EF displayed that booking class in the past, but can't seem to find it anymore.

No that data is not available.

Jun 7, 2018, 8:29 am

#1723

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pandaperth

EF still has problem in displaying RTW fares even with only 1 airline specified. I tried O&D NRT to no avail!

Edited: Double check EF again. No return if I put in JL or AA. If I put in CX, it now returns with the fares. Yey!

Last edited by allset2travel; Jun 7, 2018 at 8:43 am Reason: Correction

Jun 10, 2018, 5:31 pm

#1724

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Phantom Aer Lingus Space?

I’m trying to book TXL-DUB on 15 June 2018. EF shows U7, but when I try to search it on my Aerclub Avios.com account nothing shows as available. United.com also does not show this space. Am I missing something here?

Jun 10, 2018, 8:36 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrewerSEA

That is what Aer Lingus is publishing to the reservation systems and is not something we control. You should call them directly to ask about the U inventory, you can mention that your travel agency is seeing it published. Please email us directly if you need further help.