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- Upgrades - AY, BA, EK, EY, IB, QR, VS
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To search AA upgrades:
- Use the Award & Upgrade tool
- Only search for individual segments (set the "Connection Preference" drop-down to "Direct/Non-Stop only"). Flight results that are part of a connection won't show the upgrade version of C or A inventory because AA only files upgrade inventory as individual, not married, segments. (Married segments show revenue inventory instead of upgrade inventory.)
- To avoid confusion, check the "Exclude Codeshares" box, as AA awards and upgrades are not valid on codeshares.
ExpertFlyer.com Help Desk Thread
#256
Join Date: May 2010
Location: NYC
Posts: 246
I've never understood the use of these software and hope that someone can help me out.
A lot of award bookings involve using an alliance partner's miles to book on another partner's flight (e.g. using AA miles to book on Cathay). While this can sometimes be done for certain partners' sites for OneWorld and *Alliance, I find it exponentially harder to find this information for Skyteam redemptions.
Can Expertflyer see availability that a partner (i.e. AirFrance) releases to frequent flyers of other partners (i.e. using Delta miles) and not only their own (AirFrance) frequent flyers?
A lot of award bookings involve using an alliance partner's miles to book on another partner's flight (e.g. using AA miles to book on Cathay). While this can sometimes be done for certain partners' sites for OneWorld and *Alliance, I find it exponentially harder to find this information for Skyteam redemptions.
Can Expertflyer see availability that a partner (i.e. AirFrance) releases to frequent flyers of other partners (i.e. using Delta miles) and not only their own (AirFrance) frequent flyers?
#257
Left Expert Flyer 4/23
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,741
I've never understood the use of these software and hope that someone can help me out.
A lot of award bookings involve using an alliance partner's miles to book on another partner's flight (e.g. using AA miles to book on Cathay). While this can sometimes be done for certain partners' sites for OneWorld and *Alliance, I find it exponentially harder to find this information for Skyteam redemptions.
Can Expertflyer see availability that a partner (i.e. AirFrance) releases to frequent flyers of other partners (i.e. using Delta miles) and not only their own (AirFrance) frequent flyers?
A lot of award bookings involve using an alliance partner's miles to book on another partner's flight (e.g. using AA miles to book on Cathay). While this can sometimes be done for certain partners' sites for OneWorld and *Alliance, I find it exponentially harder to find this information for Skyteam redemptions.
Can Expertflyer see availability that a partner (i.e. AirFrance) releases to frequent flyers of other partners (i.e. using Delta miles) and not only their own (AirFrance) frequent flyers?
However that case aside, more often than not, the same award inventory is made available to partner airlines.
Last edited by ExpertFlyer Voice; Mar 26, 2013 at 12:48 pm
#258
Join Date: May 2010
Location: NYC
Posts: 246
As it so happens the Air France award inventory shown on ExpertFlyer for Air France is bookable by SkyMiles members. The expanded inventory for Air France flyers is only shown on the Air France website.
However that case aside, more often then not, the same award inventory is made available to partner airlines.
However that case aside, more often then not, the same award inventory is made available to partner airlines.
So my question is still: Can Expertflyer/KMV Tool/any other tools see availability that a partner (i.e. AirFrance) releases to frequent flyers of other partners (i.e. using Delta miles) and not only their own (AirFrance) frequent flyers?
#259
Left Expert Flyer 4/23
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,741
Thanks for the response. And your last part on "more often then(sic) not" is exactly what I'm trying to get at. How would we know for sure? In case of "then not", if you call in to redeem Delta miles on say, Korean Air or Tahiti Air, and with Delta agents being often lazy on top of being downright incompetent, they may say that a specific "Korean Air flight is not bookable using Delta miles", but we will have no way to know if it is true. We can HUACA but then that will increase the effort to redeem and sort of reduce the usefulness of the tool.
So my question is still: Can Expertflyer/KMV Tool/any other tools see availability that a partner (i.e. AirFrance) releases to frequent flyers of other partners (i.e. using Delta miles) and not only their own (AirFrance) frequent flyers?
So my question is still: Can Expertflyer/KMV Tool/any other tools see availability that a partner (i.e. AirFrance) releases to frequent flyers of other partners (i.e. using Delta miles) and not only their own (AirFrance) frequent flyers?
#260
Anyone else seeing Expertflyer differences with AA
I should probably post this with Expertflyer but to lazy to find their thread - and this is possibly just a short glitch.
I noticed that AA's inventory and Expertflyer are not matching.
For example I just looked up JFK-LHR (non-stop availability) Expertflyer was listing R2 J2 and R0 J0 on the non-stop flight. If I go to AA.com, AA is willing to sell (2 seats left) on the R0 J0 flights. It lists the availability as - 2 left even though EF says none, and it also lists the inventory as "R" or "J" respectively.
Also when I put in expertflyer and search for fares, if I put say AA, DL, UA the fares only list for DL and UA --> NO AA fares will show up. If I just put in AA, all of the AA fares show up.
Both odd and I don't see anyone else here mentioning this.
I noticed that AA's inventory and Expertflyer are not matching.
For example I just looked up JFK-LHR (non-stop availability) Expertflyer was listing R2 J2 and R0 J0 on the non-stop flight. If I go to AA.com, AA is willing to sell (2 seats left) on the R0 J0 flights. It lists the availability as - 2 left even though EF says none, and it also lists the inventory as "R" or "J" respectively.
Also when I put in expertflyer and search for fares, if I put say AA, DL, UA the fares only list for DL and UA --> NO AA fares will show up. If I just put in AA, all of the AA fares show up.
Both odd and I don't see anyone else here mentioning this.
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#264
Left Expert Flyer 4/23
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,741
I should probably post this with Expertflyer but to lazy to find their thread - and this is possibly just a short glitch.
I noticed that AA's inventory and Expertflyer are not matching.
For example I just looked up JFK-LHR (non-stop availability) Expertflyer was listing R2 J2 and R0 J0 on the non-stop flight. If I go to AA.com, AA is willing to sell (2 seats left) on the R0 J0 flights. It lists the availability as - 2 left even though EF says none, and it also lists the inventory as "R" or "J" respectively.
Also when I put in expertflyer and search for fares, if I put say AA, DL, UA the fares only list for DL and UA --> NO AA fares will show up. If I just put in AA, all of the AA fares show up.
Both odd and I don't see anyone else here mentioning this.
I noticed that AA's inventory and Expertflyer are not matching.
For example I just looked up JFK-LHR (non-stop availability) Expertflyer was listing R2 J2 and R0 J0 on the non-stop flight. If I go to AA.com, AA is willing to sell (2 seats left) on the R0 J0 flights. It lists the availability as - 2 left even though EF says none, and it also lists the inventory as "R" or "J" respectively.
Also when I put in expertflyer and search for fares, if I put say AA, DL, UA the fares only list for DL and UA --> NO AA fares will show up. If I just put in AA, all of the AA fares show up.
Both odd and I don't see anyone else here mentioning this.
If you would like us to help you with your search, please send us an email with the specific information about the search, not post on FT, thanks.
#265
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We have moved your query to the proper Forum - Travel Tools, and the proper / best thread (ExpertFlyer.com Help Desk Thread).
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#266
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: AA Platinum Pro, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Exploralist, Marriot Silver
Posts: 2,065
AA C face bucket sometimes not showing
When I search for both AA A and C classes (upgrades), some flights show C even if C=0, but some don't show C at all. In the example below, both AA 78 and 80 are three-class 777s, but C does not show up on 80. Anyone know why this happens? Should I just presume that C=0 in these cases?
Edit: Nevermind, just found the answer to my own question:
"Sometimes American will return just two flights where the requested award seat availability is zero on both flights, even when there are later non-stop/direct flights scheduled. This is American's way of indicating that none of the later flights have available inventory for the request class either."
Edit: Nevermind, just found the answer to my own question:
"Sometimes American will return just two flights where the requested award seat availability is zero on both flights, even when there are later non-stop/direct flights scheduled. This is American's way of indicating that none of the later flights have available inventory for the request class either."
Last edited by SFOPhD; Apr 5, 2013 at 10:39 am Reason: typo in title, I obviously mean faRe bucket...
#268
Left Expert Flyer 4/23
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,741
When you do the Award & Upgrade search you'll note that only upgrade classes are listed for Delta. DL award classes are unavailable as they are only found on Delta.com. As such you unfortunately cannot create an alert for them.
#269
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 4
ExpertFlyer.com
Hi
Im new to this site and to ExpertFlyer.com so please bear with me.
I need some help understanding how to use Expertflyer.com.
I matched up a flight leaving from Manchester to Chicago with flight availability and fare information. Under the fare bucket NKXUKJB there were 4 available seats. When I phoned American Airlines to enquire about the fare I was told there was non available and the Fare basis code was to long. Am I looking at this the wrong way?
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards Steve
Im new to this site and to ExpertFlyer.com so please bear with me.
I need some help understanding how to use Expertflyer.com.
I matched up a flight leaving from Manchester to Chicago with flight availability and fare information. Under the fare bucket NKXUKJB there were 4 available seats. When I phoned American Airlines to enquire about the fare I was told there was non available and the Fare basis code was to long. Am I looking at this the wrong way?
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards Steve
#270
Left Expert Flyer 4/23
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,741
Hi
Im new to this site and to ExpertFlyer.com so please bear with me.
I need some help understanding how to use Expertflyer.com.
I matched up a flight leaving from Manchester to Chicago with flight availability and fare information. Under the fare bucket NKXUKJB there were 4 available seats. When I phoned American Airlines to enquire about the fare I was told there was non available and the Fare basis code was to long. Am I looking at this the wrong way?
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards Steve
Im new to this site and to ExpertFlyer.com so please bear with me.
I need some help understanding how to use Expertflyer.com.
I matched up a flight leaving from Manchester to Chicago with flight availability and fare information. Under the fare bucket NKXUKJB there were 4 available seats. When I phoned American Airlines to enquire about the fare I was told there was non available and the Fare basis code was to long. Am I looking at this the wrong way?
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards Steve