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#1801
Left Expert Flyer 4/23
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,741
I am searching for U inventory on AA for Oct 5. Yesterday I found a flight that showed 5 seats available. I looked on AA.com and called in, and the flight has not U availability. I looked again today, and now EF shows 6 seats, but still, not per AA. Is this a common issue? I have never run into it before. Is there some way to know if there truly is availability? This is the reason I bought the subscription, to be able to find this without having to call in.
#1802
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Hawai'i Nei
Programs: Au: UA, Marriott, Hilton; GE
Posts: 7,139
Suggestion for EF
When setting alert, be it seat, aircraft change, or flight alerts, the community often flies roundtrip. How about a button that can be pressed that will switch the city directions, making it easier to set an alert for the returning segment.
For example, originating flight is SFO-LAX. Data inputted for alert. Naturally, want to set an alert for returning flight. Hit that button and the arrival airport is now the departure airport. All that needs to be changed is the date of travel and the flight number.
Thanks for your consideration.
For example, originating flight is SFO-LAX. Data inputted for alert. Naturally, want to set an alert for returning flight. Hit that button and the arrival airport is now the departure airport. All that needs to be changed is the date of travel and the flight number.
Thanks for your consideration.
#1803
Left Expert Flyer 4/23
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,741
When setting alert, be it seat, aircraft change, or flight alerts, the community often flies roundtrip. How about a button that can be pressed that will switch the city directions, making it easier to set an alert for the returning segment.
For example, originating flight is SFO-LAX. Data inputted for alert. Naturally, want to set an alert for returning flight. Hit that button and the arrival airport is now the departure airport. All that needs to be changed is the date of travel and the flight number.
Thanks for your consideration.
For example, originating flight is SFO-LAX. Data inputted for alert. Naturally, want to set an alert for returning flight. Hit that button and the arrival airport is now the departure airport. All that needs to be changed is the date of travel and the flight number.
Thanks for your consideration.
#1804
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: DTW/MBS
Programs: UA 1K, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Formerly Starbucks Gold
Posts: 3,525
When I look at fare routing rules, what does "map constructed left to right and right to left" mean/signify?
/VIA THE PACIFIC/
MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT
1. YTO-UA/AC-DEN-UA/AC-SFO/LAX-UA/AC-SJC/SFO/SEA/LAX-HNL-WP/
UA/HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-WP/UA/HA-HNL-GUM-TYO
MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT
1. YTO-UA/AC-DEN-UA/AC-SFO/LAX-UA/AC-SJC/SFO/SEA/LAX-HNL-WP/
UA/HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-WP/UA/HA-HNL-GUM-TYO
#1806
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,053
#1807
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 4
CAI-YYJ IATA Fare calc
Dear flying experts,
I have recently moved with my employer to Cairo, Egypt, and as part of my Benefits they give me (Verbatim from the policy):
It will be provided based on a Full-fare, Economy class, Round-trip air ticket as quoted by IATA from the employee's assignment location to the employee's City of Origin as specified in the letter of employment, with a routing by the most direct point-to-point route possible.
My City of Origin is Victoria, BC, Canada, or YYJ.
The employer has quoted me US$3061. Yet, when I search on EgyptAir’s website for the most direct route (CAI-YYZ-YYJ), CAI-YYZ with Egypt Air Direct, and then YYZ-YYJ Direct with Air Canada, the price is US$6,525. The Egypt Air + Air Canada routing via YYZ is undoubtedly the "most direct point-to-point route possible", yet using expert flyer I cant price this option.
I have complained to my employer, but they are not budging stating that US$3061 is the IATA quoted fare. Something is amiss though, as how is a more expensive offer being provided online, but IATA says I could fly for less?
I joined expert flyer and searched for YY/Y fares and found the below:
CAI-YYJ YIFRT2 $2976
YYJ-CAI YIFRT2 $6497
So a few questions:
1. Is there any way of forcing expertflyer to search for a specific route (CAI-YYZ-YYJ)
2. Why does the same fare basis (YIFRT2) have two different prices?
Most people search for the cheapest flight, but I am searching for the most expensive flight that meets these specific criteria so I can get the maximum benefit. Any help in proving to my employer that a flight as per my company policy costs more than ~US$3,000 would be greatly appreciated.
I have recently moved with my employer to Cairo, Egypt, and as part of my Benefits they give me (Verbatim from the policy):
It will be provided based on a Full-fare, Economy class, Round-trip air ticket as quoted by IATA from the employee's assignment location to the employee's City of Origin as specified in the letter of employment, with a routing by the most direct point-to-point route possible.
My City of Origin is Victoria, BC, Canada, or YYJ.
The employer has quoted me US$3061. Yet, when I search on EgyptAir’s website for the most direct route (CAI-YYZ-YYJ), CAI-YYZ with Egypt Air Direct, and then YYZ-YYJ Direct with Air Canada, the price is US$6,525. The Egypt Air + Air Canada routing via YYZ is undoubtedly the "most direct point-to-point route possible", yet using expert flyer I cant price this option.
I have complained to my employer, but they are not budging stating that US$3061 is the IATA quoted fare. Something is amiss though, as how is a more expensive offer being provided online, but IATA says I could fly for less?
I joined expert flyer and searched for YY/Y fares and found the below:
CAI-YYJ YIFRT2 $2976
YYJ-CAI YIFRT2 $6497
So a few questions:
1. Is there any way of forcing expertflyer to search for a specific route (CAI-YYZ-YYJ)
2. Why does the same fare basis (YIFRT2) have two different prices?
Most people search for the cheapest flight, but I am searching for the most expensive flight that meets these specific criteria so I can get the maximum benefit. Any help in proving to my employer that a flight as per my company policy costs more than ~US$3,000 would be greatly appreciated.
#1808
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: PVD, BOS
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 1,664
#1809
Moderator: Travel Safety/Security, Travel Tools, California, Los Angeles; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: LAX
Programs: oneword Emerald
Posts: 20,625
Moderator's Action
A recent EgyptAir specific fare calculation question was moved to the following thread in the Other Middle Eastern and African Airlines forum:
TWA884
Travel Tools moderator
TWA884
Travel Tools moderator
#1811
Left Expert Flyer 4/23
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,741
#1812
Moderator Hilton Honors, Travel News, West, The Suggestion Box, Smoking Lounge & DiningBuzz
Join Date: Jun 2000
Programs: Honors Diamond, Hertz Presidents Circle, National Exec Elite
Posts: 36,024
But I cannot figure out how to do this: I have put in "U" in both the fare code box and the fare class box and search a route on a date that I know from AS' website where there is indeed "U" space available on flights -- but I get no results.
Sorry if this has been asked upstream, but a search of the thread didn't find my query.
TIA!
#1813
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2009
Location: FRA / YEG
Programs: AC Super Elite, Radisson Platinum, Accor Platinum
Posts: 11,874
I'm doing the 5 day "Pro" trial because I want to experiment with setting up alerts for "U" space on Alaska Airlines' flights (which is what is needed in order to apply an MVP Gold Guest Upgrade).
But I cannot figure out how to do this: I have put in "U" in both the fare code box and the fare class box and search a route on a date that I know from AS' website where there is indeed "U" space available on flights -- but I get no results.
Sorry if this has been asked upstream, but a search of the thread didn't find my query.
TIA!
But I cannot figure out how to do this: I have put in "U" in both the fare code box and the fare class box and search a route on a date that I know from AS' website where there is indeed "U" space available on flights -- but I get no results.
Sorry if this has been asked upstream, but a search of the thread didn't find my query.
TIA!
- go to "Flight Availability" (column on the left hand side)
- only enter your desired date, route and airline
- scroll to the flight you're interested in, then click on the "exclamation mark box" on the right hand side and select booking class "U" and "at least 1"
- you can also send a test e-mail to verify the search is set up properly
#1815
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2009
Location: FRA / YEG
Programs: AC Super Elite, Radisson Platinum, Accor Platinum
Posts: 11,874
That category only gives you the published base fares, fare rules, permitted routings etc. (*very* useful, especially for int'l travel, but more in an abstract way)
Btw, if you just want to check upgrade availability on AS (without setting an alert), the easiest option is to go to the "Awards & Upgrades" section and choose your route, AS, booking class U / upgrade to First, +/- 3 days
Btw, if you just want to check upgrade availability on AS (without setting an alert), the easiest option is to go to the "Awards & Upgrades" section and choose your route, AS, booking class U / upgrade to First, +/- 3 days