Star Alliance/Oneworld Award Planning with Award Nexus
#211
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,731
BTW I am still getting that message about attempting to do things I shouldn't have. It happens whenever I have logged into and out of my work VPN - even when I was logged out of Award Nexus at the time. The first attempt to log in gives the message, the 2nd works fine.
#212
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Shanghai
Posts: 42,011
In the other direction (i.e. seats showing on ANA but not visible to other airlines) I have been monitoring *A availability for SHA/PEK and often get F flights on FM's first and last flights of the day. But BD can usually only see economy and if they try to book them suddenly they get a "waitlisted" message.
The only way you have a prayer in that situation is to get a BD supervisor to make the waitlisted segment show up on your itin. Once you do this, bugging CA/FM can yield positive results.
#213
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: DUB-BOS
Programs: various
Posts: 3,689
There are reports in this forum of married segments appearing especialy for LH, http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/bmi-d...trictions.html
I would assume that this is the source of the problems on the HKG-FRA-BRU query
I would assume that this is the source of the problems on the HKG-FRA-BRU query
#214
Join Date: May 2007
Location: ORD, DEL
Programs: AA (Plt Pro; 1.5 MM)
Posts: 6,185
Seeing one peculiar response while searching for Seoul-Tokyo awards on JL. Now, GMP, ICN are 2 airports for Seoul; HND, NRT for Tokyo:
When I search for GMP-HND, I get an error message saying GMP is not supported.
When I search for ICN-NRT, I get results for both ICN-NRT and GMP-HND.
When I search for GMP-HND, I get an error message saying GMP is not supported.
When I search for ICN-NRT, I get results for both ICN-NRT and GMP-HND.
#215
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,731
Seeing one peculiar response while searching for Seoul-Tokyo awards on JL. Now, GMP, ICN are 2 airports for Seoul; HND, NRT for Tokyo:
When I search for GMP-HND, I get an error message saying GMP is not supported.
When I search for ICN-NRT, I get results for both ICN-NRT and GMP-HND.
When I search for GMP-HND, I get an error message saying GMP is not supported.
When I search for ICN-NRT, I get results for both ICN-NRT and GMP-HND.
GMP is now mapped internally in ANX.
#216
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 80
This is way cool! I particularly like the way after you make your first line of choices (search engines and fare class), all the lines below are immediately filled in. Then when you do the outbound, so is the return. Neat.
I wish I had discovered this a couple of months ago. I gave up on ANA and was calling UAL every day or two. In the end, and getting within 6 weeks of departure, I have found my business class seats. This tool would have saved me lots of time. It also showed just now that there were no seats on my outbound day (3 weeks from today) but there were on my return (7 weeks).
Thank you.
I wish I had discovered this a couple of months ago. I gave up on ANA and was calling UAL every day or two. In the end, and getting within 6 weeks of departure, I have found my business class seats. This tool would have saved me lots of time. It also showed just now that there were no seats on my outbound day (3 weeks from today) but there were on my return (7 weeks).
Thank you.
#217
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: ORD
Programs: AA, UA, GE
Posts: 5,122
I'm seeing a weird error.
I search for award space starting July 8, 2011 and it returns 0 availability for September 2010.
According to ANA there is availability for the dates, class and number of tickets.
I search for award space starting July 8, 2011 and it returns 0 availability for September 2010.
According to ANA there is availability for the dates, class and number of tickets.
#218
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,731
Please try again.
#219
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: ORD
Programs: AA, UA, GE
Posts: 5,122
#220
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: SPG Gold, Hilton Diamond, DL, AA
Posts: 42
Hi ckpeter,
First of all I wanted to thank you for all your hard work, I just signed up today and am excited about all the potential I see for saving time and covering all my angles.
I noticed the following issue when trying some sample searches for CX availability;
When searching on BA.com for JFK-HKG in Business for this next week I found availability on 9/21 for 2 flights on CX and on 9/22 for 1 flight on CX.
When using ANX with only the "Oneworld BA" checked off I searched for 9/18 +7 days it only returned 9/18 for a BA flight connecting through LHR and nothing for any of the next 7 days. the link to my search results;
http://p1.awardnexus.com/collage/vie...00fa14d00020bc
Thanks for your input.
Edit-it gets even more confusing, When I did the same search on ANX with a date of 9/19 +7 it showed me two BA options on 9/19 (that6 didnt show when I was searching 9/18 +7), and on 9/21 it gave me the 2 CX flights and on 9/22 it gave me all 3 CX flights.
When I go back to BA.com I cant find any CX anymore on 9/22.
First of all I wanted to thank you for all your hard work, I just signed up today and am excited about all the potential I see for saving time and covering all my angles.
I noticed the following issue when trying some sample searches for CX availability;
When searching on BA.com for JFK-HKG in Business for this next week I found availability on 9/21 for 2 flights on CX and on 9/22 for 1 flight on CX.
When using ANX with only the "Oneworld BA" checked off I searched for 9/18 +7 days it only returned 9/18 for a BA flight connecting through LHR and nothing for any of the next 7 days. the link to my search results;
http://p1.awardnexus.com/collage/vie...00fa14d00020bc
Thanks for your input.
Edit-it gets even more confusing, When I did the same search on ANX with a date of 9/19 +7 it showed me two BA options on 9/19 (that6 didnt show when I was searching 9/18 +7), and on 9/21 it gave me the 2 CX flights and on 9/22 it gave me all 3 CX flights.
When I go back to BA.com I cant find any CX anymore on 9/22.
Last edited by Mikeoracle; Sep 15, 2010 at 2:15 pm Reason: Additional search on ANX 9/19 +7
#221
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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I noticed the following issue when trying some sample searches for CX availability;
When searching on BA.com for JFK-HKG in Business for this next week I found availability on 9/21 for 2 flights on CX and on 9/22 for 1 flight on CX.
When using ANX with only the "Oneworld BA" checked off I searched for 9/18 +7 days it only returned 9/18 for a BA flight connecting through LHR and nothing for any of the next 7 days...
When searching on BA.com for JFK-HKG in Business for this next week I found availability on 9/21 for 2 flights on CX and on 9/22 for 1 flight on CX.
When using ANX with only the "Oneworld BA" checked off I searched for 9/18 +7 days it only returned 9/18 for a BA flight connecting through LHR and nothing for any of the next 7 days...
It is possible that between the time you searched with BA.com and ANX, CX availability may have changed. If you did a search and still see discrepancy, please let me know.
Thanks for your report, and welcome!
#222
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: SPG Gold, Hilton Diamond, DL, AA
Posts: 42
Can you double check your results on BA.com? I did the same search, on BA.com, for JFK-HKG starting 9/18 for 1 business seat, and got no CX flights at all from Sep 18 - Oct 2 (only the one BA option, above, shows).
It is possible that between the time you searched with BA.com and ANX, CX availability may have changed. If you did a search and still see discrepancy, please let me know.
Thanks for your report, and welcome!
It is possible that between the time you searched with BA.com and ANX, CX availability may have changed. If you did a search and still see discrepancy, please let me know.
Thanks for your report, and welcome!
#223
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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Edit-it gets even more confusing, When I did the same search on ANX with a date of 9/19 +7 it showed me two BA options on 9/19 (that6 didnt show when I was searching 9/18 +7), and on 9/21 it gave me the 2 CX flights and on 9/22 it gave me all 3 CX flights.
When I go back to BA.com I cant find any CX anymore on 9/22.
When I go back to BA.com I cant find any CX anymore on 9/22.
If I start the search from 9/18, I am never offered the partner option, thus CX flights do not show up and I only get one BA flight option on 9/18.
If, as you reported, I start the search from 9/19, then I am offered the partner option. I get a new pair of BA flights on 9/19 (which didn't show up for the 9/18 + 7 search). I also get the CX flights on 9/21 and 9/28.
This appears to be an oddity with the BA site...
#224
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: SPG Gold, Hilton Diamond, DL, AA
Posts: 42
OK, something very odd is happening with BA.com for JFK-HKG in J.
If I start the search from 9/18, I am never offered the partner option, thus CX flights do not show up and I only get one BA flight option on 9/18.
If, as you reported, I start the search from 9/19, then I am offered the partner option. I get a new pair of BA flights on 9/19 (which didn't show up for the 9/18 + 7 search). I also get the CX flights on 9/21 and 9/28.
This appears to be an oddity with the BA site...
If I start the search from 9/18, I am never offered the partner option, thus CX flights do not show up and I only get one BA flight option on 9/18.
If, as you reported, I start the search from 9/19, then I am offered the partner option. I get a new pair of BA flights on 9/19 (which didn't show up for the 9/18 + 7 search). I also get the CX flights on 9/21 and 9/28.
This appears to be an oddity with the BA site...
I wonder if we can deduce that when BA has availability on its own metal for the date you put into the search it doesnt give you the "partner search" option, only if they dont have availability on that exact date and class.
This could be another good tip on ANX that if you search for a date range and it turns up availabilty on the first date you entered on BA metal only and no partner availabilty for the rest of the range, this may be the issue. In this case it would be worth going to BA.com directly to check if it is searching partner availability as well.
#225
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I wonder if we can deduce that when BA has availability on its own metal for the date you put into the search it doesnt give you the "partner search" option, only if they dont have availability on that exact date and class.
This could be another good tip on ANX that if you search for a date range and it turns up availabilty on the first date you entered on BA metal only and no partner availabilty for the rest of the range, this may be the issue.
I wonder if we can deduce that when BA has availability on its own metal for the date you put into the search it doesnt give you the "partner search" option, only if they dont have availability on that exact date and class.
This could be another good tip on ANX that if you search for a date range and it turns up availabilty on the first date you entered on BA metal only and no partner availabilty for the rest of the range, this may be the issue.
I don't remember this behavior before. However, upon searching the BA site, I see this information (updated 10/11/2009):
Originally Posted by ba.com
Can I make an award or redemption booking for a partner airline on ba.com?
Yes, Executive Club customers are offered the option to search for partner airlines on ba.com where BA is not available or does not operate?
Which airline partners can be booked on ba.com?
All the oneworld carriers are available to book on ba.com. They are American Airlines, Qantas, Cathay Pacific, Iberia, Malev,Mexicana, Finnair, JAL including JAL affiliates, Royal Jordanian and LAN including LAN affiliates.
For bookings on Alaskan Airlines please contact your local Executive Club Service Centre.
Can I choose to book a partner flight rather than BA?
No, the option to search for partner availability will only be offered where BA is not available on the requested date or where BA does not service the route
Yes, Executive Club customers are offered the option to search for partner airlines on ba.com where BA is not available or does not operate?
Which airline partners can be booked on ba.com?
All the oneworld carriers are available to book on ba.com. They are American Airlines, Qantas, Cathay Pacific, Iberia, Malev,Mexicana, Finnair, JAL including JAL affiliates, Royal Jordanian and LAN including LAN affiliates.
For bookings on Alaskan Airlines please contact your local Executive Club Service Centre.
Can I choose to book a partner flight rather than BA?
No, the option to search for partner availability will only be offered where BA is not available on the requested date or where BA does not service the route
That won't be necessary. I just added a notice in the output, so that if no partner coverage is provided, you will know from the ANX result, and won't need go to ba.com to confirm the lack of partner airline coverage.