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YVR Cockroach Sep 15, 2009 9:35 am


Originally Posted by speedster1978 (Post 12374913)
I have used both for many years, and while OS X on the MAC is a nice experience, you can have the same experience under Windows 7...

The hardware inside a Mac Pro is really not that different from what is inside a computer running Windows. Custom motherboard just like the big names (Dell, HP, Lenovo) have, but the other parts such as hard drives, memory, and all are the same as in windows based computers.

What you are paying for with Apple is the fact that they have kept things running very stable by having a VERY limited amount of hardware types to run on, while Windows can run on thousands of hardware combinations. Keeping the hardware limited like this ends with a very stable operating system as there is no issues with compatibility between various manufacturer's drivers, which is what caused Windows computers to be unstable at times.

OS X is what it is due to Apple limiting hardware and as a result, insuring stability. If they ever were to open it up, letting anyone install OS X on any hardware, such as what Microsoft allows now, then it would lose the stability it has now, and while still having a nice user experience, would bring in the same issues that Microsoft deals with often.

Years ago, as some may remember, NeXT had its own hardware (very very expensive with stylish design as a important component) to run its OS (direct ancestor of OS X) before briefly deciding to release a binary-encoded version of NeXTStep that did work on 80486s albeit with a very limited number of compatible components (which would probably quickly disappear given the speed PC components become obsolete). Aliens must have kidnapped and replaced Steve Jobs with an evil twin.

I played with such a machine for a while and it was much faster than the 68000-based NeXT machines at a fraction of the price (even if acquired used). Apple can do that again, but they want to keep prices high by limited compatible hardware to their own.

wiredboy10003 Sep 15, 2009 9:39 am


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 11981642)
I do not understand how Apple can get away with charging so much for so little.

Their laptops show a decent value for money, with a very good design, but the Mini is just boring and lacks any innovation, including user upgradable memory.

I've recommended Minis to two friends who have very basic needs. They're very happy with them. They were impressed by the size and that they could keep their existing screens. Both came from the PC world. One was mostly concerned that if something went wrong, he could put the thing in his briefcase and take it for repair.

As for memory, I seem to remember a study that showed something like only 10% of users even know they can upgrade the memory. And most of the rest will never do it anyway.


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