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Old Mar 11, 2018, 3:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Calchas
The way Facebook deduces your number is by examining those people who have stored you as a contact in their phone and who have given Facebook access to their contacts. If 50 Facebook members have a guy called "John Smith"/"Jon Smith"/"John S"/"Big J"/"JJ"/"John mob"/"John tinder" in their phone all with the same number, it doesn't take too much to figure out what the name of this person is.
50 people! A total 8 people have my WhatsApp number (they're the only contacts stored on my smartphone) and of those only 4 are on Facebook. So I suppose it is technically possible although it would be more difficult. I cannot fathom why anyone would give Facebook or any other company access to the contacts on their phone. That's very private information.
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Old Apr 25, 2018, 1:18 pm
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OP, you made your mother proud.

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Old Apr 30, 2018, 5:36 pm
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I see the OP is leaving WhatsApp: WhatsApp boss and co-founder Jan Koum to quit - BBC News

Is it so you can spend more time on FT again?
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Old Apr 30, 2018, 7:14 pm
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Is he even flying commercial any more?
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Old Apr 30, 2018, 9:09 pm
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Apparently @jkb76 likes to play ultimate- drop me a line next time you're in the Baltimore/DC area and we can toss!

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Old May 1, 2018, 4:24 am
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Originally Posted by wco81
Is he even flying commercial any more?
I like to think that even with $19B in the bank, I'd still occasionally slum it in F, just to stay in touch with how the common man travels...

And also still enjoy the satisfaction of managing a successful M&M reward flight!
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Old May 1, 2018, 6:45 am
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Still the most ridiculous thread in the history of FT. I cannot begin to comprehend building something like this and selling it for $19B.

Truly incredible.
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Old May 1, 2018, 7:57 am
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Seems like jan has quit fb last night mmmh
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Old May 1, 2018, 10:56 am
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Oh it's much. much more than $19b now. Facebook stock has increased a heck of a lot since that deal. Of course it depends on how much he cashed out, but I would guess that he kept most of in in FB stock. I wonder if he is thinking about what to do next with all that wealth. He could start some amazing new businesses, but of course you need that Golden idea to make the effort worthwhile.
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Old May 1, 2018, 11:13 am
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Originally Posted by stimpy
Oh it's much. much more than $19b now. Facebook stock has increased a heck of a lot since that deal. Of course it depends on how much he cashed out, but I would guess that he kept most of in in FB stock. I wonder if he is thinking about what to do next with all that wealth. He could start some amazing new businesses, but of course you need that Golden idea to make the effort worthwhile.
The indications in the press are that the co-founders had concerns about the direction of WhatsApp under Facebook over privacy (or maybe other things too). Some articles are saying that at least the second co-founder to leave may be leaving as much as nearly a billion dollars behind due to leaving before the last tranches of stock were to be fully vested/unrestricted. The co-founders are very wealthy men by any stretch of the imagination, and I am hoping they use a lot more of the money to promote privacy and civil liberties in a world that has them under assault from the left, the right, the business sector, governments, and criminal/rogue elements.

I am pretty sure that most of their wealth is not in Facebook shares. The key guidance is to diversify, and I would hope that it was done big time as soon as they could.
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Old May 1, 2018, 4:56 pm
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Sometimes it just happens. A man creates something great, gets a good reputation and then sells out. Well done on then selling at the right point. Good ideas and hard work deserve reward. We’d all like to achieve that. Selling to Darth Hoodie, on the other hand...
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Old May 2, 2018, 6:01 am
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Originally Posted by Internaut
Sometimes it just happens. A man creates something great, gets a good reputation and then sells out. Well done on then selling at the right point. Good ideas and hard work deserve reward. We’d all like to achieve that. Selling to Darth Hoodie, on the other hand...
Sometimes the act of “selling to the enemy” at what may turn out to be a high price (to the buyer) is simply good business to weaken “the enemy” and have more resources for use against “the enemy”. Even if unintended.
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Old May 2, 2018, 10:37 am
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Would he have agreed to the merger/acquisition deal with FB if all these concerns about data protection and privacy came out before the proposed deal?

They made it sound like they left FB because they disagreed with some FB practices around data privacy.

But hasn't it always been clear that FB intended to monetize personal data and that meant they were going to do invasive mining?
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Old May 2, 2018, 1:46 pm
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Originally Posted by wco81
.But hasn't it always been clear that FB intended to monetize personal data and that meant they were going to do invasive mining?
No. Acquiring parties sell themselves to acquisition targets (and even clients and suppliers) in ways that don’t clearly turn out the way the acquiring parties represented themselves. That said, anyone who has been in this game long enough — but most haven’t been — know that the founders sellIng generally end up losing control of, and even influence over, their proverbial baby.

But I’ve never trusted Facebook and its founders. But for a few billion dollars, who wouldn’t be suspending a disbelief in Facebook’s trustworthiness.
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Old May 2, 2018, 7:36 pm
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That's my point. If they're quitting FB now over principle, where was that principle when there was a $19 billion acquisition offer on the table?

I'm not saying I would have passed up that money. But citing principle now? Well with FU money, you can do whatever you want.
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