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I bought the Ec2's from a retailer. I did have a problem with the first set. I returned them directly to Shure and got a new pair within a week.
I have used Shure mics before and their customer service it truly outstanding. They have patiently supported stuff that is 12 years old. In one case they no longer made a part and referred me to a retired Shure employee who did a cottage business fabricating such things. Great people. One question:
Originally Posted by DavidNZ
Once they are burned in (mine are probably only half-way), the sound quality is exceptional.
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Most headphones get better with age, so to speak. Some say the burn-in on most cans is roughly 100 hours. I noticed significant improvement on the soundstage and bass response of my Sennheiser PX200s after about 70-80 hours of use.
My E4cs have had about 50 hours or so and not really much change. For the first new nights, I left them plugged in to my hi-fi with music going through at a slightly higher-than-comfortable volume. Some say spoken word is better, or even white noise, but who's to know? Edited to add: also, don't forget: using a pair of Shures or Etys with an Ipod or most other mp3 players is somewhat overkill, I would say. Regardless of the bitrate of the file you're playing (even lossless), the circuitry of an Ipod is, in my opinion, simply too sub-standard to get the best out of any high-end headphone/canalphone. I had an Ipod Mini for 4 hours once. Gave it to my wife because the sound, compared to my Minidisc, was simply awful. |
Originally Posted by DavidNZ
Most headphones get better with age, so to speak. Some say the burn-in on most cans is roughly 100 hours. I noticed significant improvement on the soundstage and bass response of my Sennheiser PX200s after about 70-80 hours of use.
My E4cs have had about 50 hours or so and not really much change. For the first new nights, I left them plugged in to my hi-fi with music going through at a slightly higher-than-comfortable volume. Some say spoken word is better, or even white noise, but who's to know? Edited to add: also, don't forget: using a pair of Shures or Etys with an Ipod or most other mp3 players is somewhat overkill, I would say. Regardless of the bitrate of the file you're playing (even lossless), the circuitry of an Ipod is, in my opinion, simply too sub-standard to get the best out of any high-end headphone/canalphone. I had an Ipod Mini for 4 hours once. Gave it to my wife because the sound, compared to my Minidisc, was simply awful. |
True, good phones will help, but if the source of the sound (not the file) is lacking, I don't think you'll maximise the capability of those cans. Sony, for example, is known for it's sound capabilities, as is Creative. Sure, you can have awful files being sent through a Sony or Creative player and into a set of Shure or Etys and the sound (subjectively) will be awful, but I guess the point I was trying to make (unsuccessfully now that I've re-read my post!) is that excellent equipment + excellent sound file + excellent phones/cans = excellent sound (again, subjectively). In my opinion, the Ipod just doesn't fit into that equation as 'excellent equipment' in terms of sound quality. I will, however, freely admit that I didn't try lossless on my wife's mini - i tried 192 (and higher) AAC and mp3. I found that LP2 ATRAC3 from Sony (recorded optically direct from CD) was superior. But, to each his own - these are my opinions only. We all have different ears, and what really matters is what sounds good to us!
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I do agree with the theory of garbage in/garbage out, but many use these headphones to reduce or eliminate the drone of the airplane as well as the blabbermouths talking in nearby rows.
That said, I could not justify buying the super-high end shures but can certainly justify spending $100 bucks for some peace and quiet. Sometimes, when I feel the need to be really isolated, I wear my Bose over the inserted headphones. The only noise you hear then is the sound of your beating heart...which always reminds me that I should exercise more. ;) |
heh - score8 raises a good point: on a plane, high-fidelity can be rather elusive due to incessant environmental sounds (i.e., 2-4 big Rolls Royce engines!)
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Originally Posted by DavidNZ
Most headphones get better with age, so to speak. Some say the burn-in on most cans is roughly 100 hours. I noticed significant improvement on the soundstage and bass response of my Sennheiser PX200s after about 70-80 hours of use.
Camp #1: Burning in your headphones improves the sound quality. Camp #2: Burning in your headphones does nothing to the equipment; rather, it's more a psychological effect, where your ears/brain gets used to the sound of the headphones and they start to sound better. In other words, you just think you're burning in your equipment; in reality, you're really burning in your ears. I have no clue which camp has got it right. I haven't seen any controlled tests of either hypothesis. |
I've decided to splurge on the EC5's. When I google it, I get links from Amazon for $329. However, when I click on it, it takes me to the Amazon page and a $499 price (even when I put in the shopping cart). Am I missing something here? Or is the deal just gone. Anybody have any current deals?
Thanks in advance |
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