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magiciansampras Apr 4, 2005 3:03 pm

does your firefox/thunderbird use excessive cpu/memory/file access?
 
Every once in awhile my computer will slow to a very annoying level. When this happens I take a look at my task manager and sure enough either Firefox or Thunderbird is using like 99% of computer power and in excess of 100 megs of memory. If I kill the process then my computer runs just fine again.

I looked through the mozilla forum and bugzilla and this is referenced, but I'm wondering how widespread the problem is. Do you guys have any trouble or am I just an unlucky one with this bug?

ScottC Apr 4, 2005 3:55 pm

Every now and then this happens to me too. I put it down to poor memory managment by Windows and not a Mozilla problem as it happens to any app I have open for more than a few days (like iTunes).

back seat Apr 5, 2005 9:18 am

How long do you leave your computer running?

I used to have this if I didn't re-boot at least once a day - prior to that I would leave my computer on constantly.

ScottC Apr 5, 2005 9:41 am


Originally Posted by back seat
How long do you leave your computer running?

I used to have this if I didn't re-boot at least once a day - prior to that I would leave my computer on constantly.

With me, 24/7. I just open the taskmanager once every day or 2 and kill a bunch of stuff.

Morrissey Apr 5, 2005 9:49 am

Yes, this happens to me daily. I look at the task manager, and Firefox is using over 100K! Rather annoying.

FewMiles Apr 5, 2005 11:05 am

100k, no way!

Seriously, I find that simply quitting and restarting firefox will do the trick. The memory/cpu hogging issue seems to me (though I'm not certain) to be related to plug-ins like Java, Flash, etc. Closing the browser also unloads the plug-ins and seems to put things back to normal.

FewMiles..

nmenaker Apr 5, 2005 11:12 am

yes, this can happen
 

Originally Posted by FewMiles
100k, no way!

Seriously, I find that simply quitting and restarting firefox will do the trick. The memory/cpu hogging issue seems to me (though I'm not certain) to be related to plug-ins like Java, Flash, etc. Closing the browser also unloads the plug-ins and seems to put things back to normal.

FewMiles..


this CAN actually happen, but most usually when using TABed browsing in FF. Every new tab consumes about 10K more in memory. Sometimes a bit less, sometimes more. problem is, when a window is opened that runs the JAVA engine, that boosts it up about 40K, so 20-30K base, plus 10K a window and then BOOM 40K for a window that is running JAVA.

I have had well over 100K on FF sometimes, I know then I am opening too many windows. I try to keep it to under 10 open windows at a time.

LIH Prem Apr 5, 2005 11:22 am

I have noticed that firefox uses more cpu than it should if you display a page with graphics that change, especially if the macromedial flash player is active.

I've gotten used to hitting the 'home page' button when I leave the browser idle. My home page is set to a blank page.

I don't do very much tabbed browsing.

-David

ScottC Apr 5, 2005 11:28 am

Methinks some people are confused between Kb and Mb. I WISH Firefox would only take up 100k :D

nmenaker Apr 5, 2005 1:11 pm

yeah
 

Originally Posted by ScottC
Methinks some people are confused between Kb and Mb. I WISH Firefox would only take up 100k :D


yeah, when I say 40K, i don't mean 40kb, I mean 40,000kb, or 40MB. Just dropping the kb.

So it should read 40Kkb

or, too much

Morrissey Apr 5, 2005 1:24 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC
Methinks some people are confused between Kb and Mb. I WISH Firefox would only take up 100k :D

Methinks you should venture outside and get some fresh air once in a while!

Governator Apr 5, 2005 1:25 pm

I keep quite a few FF windows open, I always run over 100 MB. Right now it's 113,600 kilobytes = 110.9375 megabytes (thank goodness for Google calculator). Of course it's not so bad, 'cuz I'm running with 1 GB of memory! ^ ^

ScottC Apr 5, 2005 3:19 pm


Originally Posted by Morrissey
Methinks you should venture outside and get some fresh air once in a while!

O, TIR!

YVR Cockroach Apr 7, 2005 12:16 am

While on this topic, is it possible to block Macromedia Flash and Shockwave from running, or even loading, from ad sites? That's one function that I'd love.

nmenaker Apr 7, 2005 4:47 am

extesnsions
 
the ....... extension will do that.

CVO 1K 2 Million Apr 7, 2005 12:14 pm

I have not noticed the memory/CPU issue quite as often since I upgraded to 1.0.2.

magiciansampras Apr 7, 2005 1:24 pm


Originally Posted by CVO 1K 2 Million
I have not noticed the memory/CPU issue quite as often since I upgraded to 1.0.2.

I agree.. I just installed the update about a week ago and it has gotten better. Not perfect, but better.

pseudoswede Apr 7, 2005 1:57 pm

I get this issue with Firefox and Maxthon often. The more tabs I have open, the more likely the browsers will start hogging CPU/memory--which makes sense.

Disco Volante Aug 22, 2005 7:11 am

Firefox problem
 
Help! I am suffering a similar problem to those described in this thread (at least I think its similar...). Firefox is causing my PC to crash periodically. When this happens, none of the windows will respond, and even the task manager takes ages to shut the open Firefox windows. I thought this was a problem with my PC, but have seen several similar threads to this one describing problems like mine. I have the latest vesion of Firefox, and used to love it, but this is now a daily occurrence. I am seriously considering returning to IE :eek: :( . Does anyone know how to fix or mitigate this problem :confused:

ScottC Aug 22, 2005 7:22 am

I've always had this problem, I solved it by installing an app called "process tamer", it reduces the strain an app (any app) puts on your system.

You might want to try that!

ScottC Aug 22, 2005 7:23 am

FWIW, here is the download link:

http://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/proctamer/

alanh Aug 22, 2005 2:21 pm

I've mainly noticed the problem with Firefox slowing due to problems with extentions. Try starting Firefox via the "Safe mode" item in the Start menu, and then remove or update the extentions (vai the Tools|Extentions menu). Extentions that were built for older builds of Firefix are particularly problematic.

maceyr Aug 23, 2005 4:04 pm

The only way to stop Firefox from taking up all the CPU is to close it and open it back up. Doing some tweaking with the About:Config doesn't change much except that it takes a bit longer before Firefox gets to over 100,000k. This is definitely some kind of a memory leak where the more tabs you open, the worse it gets. Closing the program and re-opening it starts it back to a lower level.

I am now using a somewhat less bloated and functional browser that doesn't nearly get as big as Firefox. It's called OffByOne ( http://www.OffByOne.com )and for many people, they won't like it because there aren't many features and many plugins are not supported. But, for simple browsing, it's fine.

I actually love how much less CPU and memory it uses.

Dodge DeBoulet Aug 23, 2005 4:53 pm


Originally Posted by maceyr
The only way to stop Firefox from taking up all the CPU is to close it and open it back up. Doing some tweaking with the About:Config doesn't change much except that it takes a bit longer before Firefox gets to over 100,000k. This is definitely some kind of a memory leak where the more tabs you open, the worse it gets. Closing the program and re-opening it starts it back to a lower level.

I am now using a somewhat less bloated and functional browser that doesn't nearly get as big as Firefox. It's called OffByOne ( http://www.OffByOne.com )and for many people, they won't like it because there aren't many features and many plugins are not supported. But, for simple browsing, it's fine.

I actually love how much less CPU and memory it uses.

With 2GB RAM in my laptop, I really don't care how much memory FF uses :D

ScottC Aug 23, 2005 5:21 pm


Originally Posted by PorkRind
With 2GB RAM in my laptop, I really don't care how much memory FF uses :D

I have the same in my desktop, but things really get out of control when a single app starts claiming 1.4Gb of memory :D

nerd Aug 23, 2005 5:37 pm


Originally Posted by maceyr
The only way to stop Firefox from taking up all the CPU is to close it and open it back up. Doing some tweaking with the About:Config doesn't change much except that it takes a bit longer before Firefox gets to over 100,000k. This is definitely some kind of a memory leak where the more tabs you open, the worse it gets. Closing the program and re-opening it starts it back to a lower level.

Do you mean memory instead of CPU?

I don't think it's a memory leak; minimizing the app seems to release most of the memory.

richard Aug 23, 2005 7:22 pm

I am so pleased that people are using Firefox. I remember several years ago few wanted to hear about using anything different from IE and Outlook. Things are much improved when more of use are using non-Microsoft, open source software.

ScottC Aug 23, 2005 7:29 pm


Originally Posted by richard
I am so pleased that people are using Firefox. I remember several years ago few wanted to hear about using anything different from IE and Outlook. Things are much improved when more of use are using non-Microsoft, open source software.

Well, you have to admit that several years ago the open source browser alternative sucked...

gosflyer Aug 23, 2005 11:26 pm


Originally Posted by richard
I am so pleased that people are using Firefox. I remember several years ago few wanted to hear about using anything different from IE and Outlook. Things are much improved when more of use are using non-Microsoft, open source software.

For me, the fact that Firefox is open source is only an incidental benefit. I use it because I really think it is much better than IE. In work, I have to use IE and I really miss Firefox. :td:

Disco Volante Aug 24, 2005 2:21 am


Originally Posted by ScottC

Thanks for this ScottC. I am trying it out and I have not had another problem so far.

winkydink Aug 24, 2005 2:13 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC
Every now and then this happens to me too. I put it down to poor memory managment by Windows and not a Mozilla problem as it happens to any app I have open for more than a few days (like iTunes).

Scott, Scott, Scott. It leaks memory badly under linux as well. Mozilla's memory leakage woes go all the way back to when Netscape's company name was Mosaic.

maceyr Aug 25, 2005 12:06 pm


Originally Posted by nerd
Do you mean memory instead of CPU?

I don't think it's a memory leak; minimizing the app seems to release most of the memory.

Yes, I meant memory, but when loading a page or reloading it, it temporarily takes up to 99% of my CPU.

Minimizing the app only releases some of the memory (it looks like it gets cut in half). I guess that's not so bad if I just have to minimize it from time to time rather than closing it up and re-opening it.


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