Yup, exactly why I like to review the headers before I manually process (delete and bounce back) the emails off my ISP server and one reason why I don't trust automatic spam deletion software. ;)

fyi ..

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20396

(yes, it was me.)

-David

If that's your day job, try learning the sax. :)

Not even close :)

-David

[QUOTE=HeHateY]If you have Verizon as your ISP (even if your address is not "@verizon.net") you are not receiving any e-mail that is sent from outside the USA.

No I confirm this. Verizon, TTBOMK, have been blocking email (perhaps just residential??) since 8th December. I have a friend who is a Verizon subscriber and since that time, all email to her "time out" on trying to access relay.verizon.net. This is emailing from UK to the USA.

See threads

Dec 28th : "relay.verizon.net: Anyone know if they filter specific IP addresses?"
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...3526c8fe0fdbb8

Dec 21st "OT: Is verizon blocking european netblocks?"
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...e23947ad0c74c8

Dec 15th "relay.verizon.net"
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...8e429cd94849de

Dec 14th "Can not forward to verizon.net- DCOM error"
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...f7460edef494fe

Dec 14th "Mail problems sending to Verizon"
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...20c8c9f778606/
8f57bf982d1933ba

Dec 14th "relay.verizon.net was Re: Email Problem"
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...dac1fbb7795fe9

Dec 11th "No Verizon email, not bouncing back"
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...44090bf3a0ffda

Dec 8th "Verizon.net and 421 errors"
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...452ba3f20acde3

Watcom Guru

Sorry Watcom, but that is just a long list of urban legend. My residential Verizon email account still receives foreign email just fine. If you have a Verizon account, email it to me and I will reply from my French ISP account so you can see for yourself.

Perhaps your French ISP has been unblocked by Verizon. Do you think the plethora of compaints about this are all urban legends?

Yes I do for two reasons. One, as I said a few times earlier on this thread I get email from all over the world from international corporations and institutions. Not just my French ISP. And two, some people just freak out when their email doesn't go through and they think the world is coming to an end. If you debug the problem you will likely see a very good reason for why your email didn't go through.

And my French ISP wasn't unblocked by Verizon. It was never blocked in the first place since they are a well run ISP that takes reasonable steps to prevent spammers on their network. Perhaps some of the ISP's that may be getting blocked by Verizon probably haven't chosen to take these steps to prevent spammers?

Points taken!

I know from firsthand experience how most people have NO CLUE how/why mail bounces, etc.

Great, so they are letting e-mail from France come in, ergo I am making this up.

Then how come I am not getting e-mails from the UK and Scandinavia??

And how are we able to find all these references to the problem??

Like I said above, send me your Verizon email account and I will send you foreign email so you can see that it works fine. There are plenty of Flyertalkers from outside the US who can do the same. As long as the mail comes from a reputable source that doesn't forward a ton of spam to Verizon, it will work fine.

What is the name of the source domains in the UK and Scandinavia that have problems sending to you? Tell us and maybe we can help you debug the problem.

I'll volunteer, PM me and I'll email you. Personally I think Verizon is blocking a good number of ISP's out there but not all. Just like other services, Verizon will block foreign ISP's if they see a high level of potential spam traffic or problems. Even AOL has blocked my foreign ISP before, as has Verizon, as has many others. It's not uncommon.

KosraeTV, I got your Pac Rim email just fine at my Verizon account. Thanks.

So, Verizon is not blocking all foreign ISP addresses. French and Pacific Rim work. And I'm using one of the most problematic Pacific Rim ISP's out there.

mail.tele.dk (the ISP of TDC, TeleDanmark, i.e the old Danish Telephone Molopoly) is one that people were sending e-mail to me from, but was not getting through Verizon's brilliant "filter".

But never mind. I am switched over to Comcast now.