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nmenaker Dec 9, 2004 10:05 am

sometimes yes
 

Originally Posted by NM
No NC headphone is going to help with crying babies. They are only effective for constant low-frequency sounds like the drone of jet engines and air conditioning.

normally, I would say true. But, if the baby does indeed screen with such constancy and verocity - then the headphones will work.

This is also known as the COMPLETE TERROR BABY syndrome, it doesn't happen too often, but when it does - you'll be covered.

For the poster above from the UK who wanted to know how much they would cost them?

They will cost you about 50% on a $ for $ basis compared to an american buying them in the us. My advice would be to buy three pair, one for you and two to sell on ebay in the UK.

lucky9876coins Dec 9, 2004 6:54 pm

I was just wondering if anyone knows if there is a big difference between these and the Bose Triport?

dchristiva Dec 10, 2004 9:24 am


Originally Posted by eduboys
Maybe I'm the only person on flyer talk that has some reservations regarding the headphones. I find myself sweating after wearing these headphones for about an hour. They are great for cancelling much of the ambient noise, but they DO NOT get completely rid of the noise coming from the two people sitting next to you.

For short periods of time, as well as movies on my laptop, these headphones are superb. For me they are definitely not wearable for an extended period of time without some physical discomfort in my ears.

I agree, and I must be the only person in America who RETURNED mine to Bose. I didn't think they were all they advertised, especially for the price. They didn't block noise like I expected and I found them uncomfortable after about an hour.

dchristiva Dec 10, 2004 9:31 am


Originally Posted by neilyork
Never mind listening to music, the drowning of baby sounds is worthwhile enough!

Seriously, I'm travelling to the US in January from UK..can anyone give me a rough price for these headphones when bought in an electronics store etc.

One FTer who seems to post pretty reputably says that NC headsets DON'T eliminate the sound of a crying baby - just the ambient noise like jet engines. Others of you have said that NC headsets DO block out the sound of a crying baby. Which is correct?

nmenaker Dec 10, 2004 9:46 am

they don't black out the baby
 

Originally Posted by dchristiva
One FTer who seems to post pretty reputably says that NC headsets DON'T eliminate the sound of a crying baby - just the ambient noise like jet engines. Others of you have said that NC headsets DO block out the sound of a crying baby. Which is correct?


they don't black out the baby, unless the baby screens constantly at the same tone and pitch.

this does happen sometimes,

seoulmanjr Dec 10, 2004 10:02 am


Originally Posted by nmenaker
they don't black out the baby, unless the baby screens constantly at the same tone and pitch.

this does happen sometimes,

So if it does block out ambient noise, but not the noise of a baby crying, does that mean that you hear the baby crying more clearly?

Sure the overall noise level would be quieter, but I don't really care about the constant ambient noise of the plane since I tune it out and it helps mask the other inconstant noises that would keep me from sleeping. Last thing I want is to hear that crap mroe clearly for the lack of an ambient masking noise...

?

peace,
~Ben~

nmenaker Dec 10, 2004 10:13 am

no headphones
 

Originally Posted by seoulmanjr
So if it does block out ambient noise, but not the noise of a baby crying, does that mean that you hear the baby crying more clearly?

Sure the overall noise level would be quieter, but I don't really care about the constant ambient noise of the plane since I tune it out and it helps mask the other inconstant noises that would keep me from sleeping. Last thing I want is to hear that crap mroe clearly for the lack of an ambient masking noise...

?

peace,
~Ben~


so, no NC headphones will cancel out speach, or baby's for example. Of course the sound is reduced by the fact that you have headphones on, or in your ears. Some say, the Shure type of IN EAR headphones do better at this than a cup,, like the bose.

But, the real strength of NC headphones, like the Bose in my opinion is that they DO cancel out all the "ambient" noise, noise that you don't really realize is WAY over 70-80 decibels and that your body is working hard to "cancel out" You body commits a tremendous amount of energy to eliminating this noise. Your body needs to do it, otherwise the constant drum would REALLy taxing and tiring. But it is STILL very tiring. The fact that your body doesn't have to work that hard to eliminate it is what makes flyers who use NC headphones feel much more relaxed, refreshed and not so spent from being on a six hour cross country flight.

One gets to their destination simply relaxed and refreshed.

PTravel Dec 10, 2004 11:19 am


Originally Posted by dchristiva
One FTer who seems to post pretty reputably says that NC headsets DON'T eliminate the sound of a crying baby - just the ambient noise like jet engines. Others of you have said that NC headsets DO block out the sound of a crying baby. Which is correct?

You might have meant me, as I post about this fairly often. For recreational noise-cancellers, like Bose, Sony and others, frequencies much about 2 KHz (and babies go well above this, as does human speech) aren't handled effectively, nor are non-periodic, impulse sounds (like babies crying) handled well. However, because the Bose are closed-system phones (the ear cups seal over the ear), they do offer some attenuation of outside noise, though this is passive, and not active, noise reduction.

It is, however, possible to design phones that can handle impulse- and higher-frequency-cancellation fairly well. I used to rent headsets to communicate with my crew when I did multi-camera shoots. These were noise-cancelling and worked very, very well at reducing ALL outside noise; they worked on the same principle as recreational noise-cancelling phones -- outside noise is amplified and fed to the phones 180-degrees out of phase, which cancels it out. The only problem with these phones was that they were very large, very heavy and sealed tightly against my head -- they'd be far too uncomfortable for travel use. Airline pilots also have noise-cancelling phones like these (in fact, Bose makes them).

XFed2001 Dec 11, 2004 5:33 am

Int'l Biz Class - Headsets - Bring My Own?
 
I recently bought a pair of Plane Quiet Headsets for use domestically. Do I need to bring them with me when I fly biz class internationally or will the carrier provide comparable or better ones? Does F get the same headsets? Thanks

Dovster Dec 11, 2004 6:54 am


Originally Posted by XFed2001
I recently bought a pair of Plane Quiet Headsets for use domestically. Do I need to bring them with me when I fly biz class internationally or will the carrier provide comparable or better ones? Does F get the same headsets? Thanks

My only international biz class flights have been on AF, DL, AZ, and CO but none of these provided earphones that were comparable even to an inexpensive Sony set -- much less noise cancelling headsets.

Teacher49 Dec 11, 2004 7:56 am

American Airlines provides the Bose QC2's in business class along with a little DVD palyer and a wallet of 12 or so DVDs.

Best wishes,

Teacher49

XFed2001 Dec 11, 2004 11:43 am

Thanks Dovster/Teacher49
 
To play it safe, I'll just bring my own. One would think that F passengers would automatically get them. Silly me thinking that even F passengers would "automatically" get anything.

Of course I could always call prior to leaving and ask....


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