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winkydink Aug 13, 2003 6:28 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by NickP 1K:
Still no bluetooth support in MS Smartphone 2003... Have to wait till the next version from MS to start seeing this support even in the hardware.</font>
The vast majority of Nokia's don't have Bluetooth either and they seem to sell a lot of phones. http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...orum/smile.gif

Bottom line is it's a $10 chip set which is a lot when your total BOM is around $55.

Don't get me wrong, I use a BT-enabled phone (T68i) myself, but the majority of the market doesn't seem to be interested.


NickP 1K Aug 13, 2003 9:23 pm

The issue is no OS support for it... NOT that the hardware doesn't have it...

ScottC Aug 14, 2003 7:45 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by winkydink:
The vast majority of Nokia's don't have Bluetooth either and they seem to sell a lot of phones. http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...orum/smile.gif

Bottom line is it's a $10 chip set which is a lot when your total BOM is around $55.

Don't get me wrong, I use a BT-enabled phone (T68i) myself, but the majority of the market doesn't seem to be interested.

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1) BT Chipsets are being flogged for as little as $2.27 at the moment

2) As Nick says, they don't even have a BT stack in their software so any company that DOES want BT can't even use it...

3) Even though BT data is still a major PITA many people want to use BT headsets.

DisgruntledGoat Aug 14, 2003 10:44 am

Microsoft=awesome. FACT.

ScottC Aug 14, 2003 11:06 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by DisgruntledGoat:
Microsoft=awesome. FACT.</font>
Have you ever played with a Microsoft Smartphone? Microsoft may be awesome but they SUCK at making phones.

Internaut Aug 14, 2003 1:03 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by DisgruntledGoat:
Microsoft=awesome. FACT.</font>
??????? Uh ????????

NickP 1K Aug 14, 2003 5:13 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ScottC:
Have you ever played with a Microsoft Smartphone? Microsoft may be awesome but they SUCK at making phones. </font>
http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...m/thumbsup.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...m/thumbsup.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...m/thumbsup.gif

If we ever see or plan to see any of you at a meetup, you're welcome to borrow my Orange SPV Windows Smartphone... (actually I'd likely give it away or sell it if anyone liked it... haven't really found anyone to punt it off to yet)

[This message has been edited by NickP 1K (edited 08-14-2003).]

winkydink Aug 15, 2003 6:13 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ScottC:
1) BT Chipsets are being flogged for as little as $2.27 at the moment</font>
What's the royalty rate on the BT stack? In my haste, I mistyped. What I meant to say is adding BT will add about $10 to your BOM



[This message has been edited by winkydink (edited 08-15-2003).]

NickP 1K Aug 15, 2003 8:57 pm

BT Chipsets flogged for the sub $3 SHOULD be including any licensed royality into their chipset prices. I have NOT seen BT royality payments being broken down into a seperate payment like they do with Dolby licensing.

You can implement a BT chipset and radio (integrated into the baseband) for aprox $5 depending on volumes, even less if you do more integration ($3 or less)


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