Retiring and Travelling - Telecommunications Strategy
#31
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: DAL
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In the Google Voice app go to settings, make and receive calls, Prefer WiFi and Data (checked). I have made and received GV calls with no issues when using an international sim when traveling in Europe and Asia. The default is often set to Use Carrier which does not work when using a non US sim.
#32
Join Date: May 2003
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If you are going to travel internationally a significant amount, my recommendation is to get the Tmobile plan which gives you free text and 3G data. The plans are more expensive on a per month basis - I pay $60/month - but you have zero ($0) cost to automatically get the above when traveling everywhere that I have been: Europe, Asia, Central and South America, Japan, Russia. Canada and Mexico both work fine too.
There is a $0.20/min fee for receiving or initiating voice phone calls. This is fine since you have full control over either plus can avoid if you WiFi call (see below).
I've been a Tmobile customer ever since they merged with Sprint, but I think the modern version of the plan is called Magenta. It also includes a Netflix basic subscription, WiFi calling, free in flight internet/texting on a number of airlines including United.
Tmobile also allows iPhones at least to be used as hotspots for laptop based email.
I see there are 55+ versions of Magenta, so may be even cheaper than what I am paying now although my actual plan is a legacy one equivalent to Magenta+.
If you want/need greater bandwidth than 3G, you can either get the higher bandwidth options (4G, 5G) permanently or pay for passes to temporarily increase bandwidth. A 10 day pass is $35.
With this plan, there is no need for juggling phone numbers for people to contact you, or to recharge a sim, or to get a sim (which is increasingly more difficult in the West).
And finally: you don't have to worry about Google spying on you, either. I will never use a Google service: basic Android, gmail, Chrome, or even search if I can help it.
There is a $0.20/min fee for receiving or initiating voice phone calls. This is fine since you have full control over either plus can avoid if you WiFi call (see below).
I've been a Tmobile customer ever since they merged with Sprint, but I think the modern version of the plan is called Magenta. It also includes a Netflix basic subscription, WiFi calling, free in flight internet/texting on a number of airlines including United.
Tmobile also allows iPhones at least to be used as hotspots for laptop based email.
I see there are 55+ versions of Magenta, so may be even cheaper than what I am paying now although my actual plan is a legacy one equivalent to Magenta+.
If you want/need greater bandwidth than 3G, you can either get the higher bandwidth options (4G, 5G) permanently or pay for passes to temporarily increase bandwidth. A 10 day pass is $35.
With this plan, there is no need for juggling phone numbers for people to contact you, or to recharge a sim, or to get a sim (which is increasingly more difficult in the West).
And finally: you don't have to worry about Google spying on you, either. I will never use a Google service: basic Android, gmail, Chrome, or even search if I can help it.
#33
Join Date: May 2011
Location: CMH
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The Google Fi flexible plan might be a good fit for your needs. $20/month gets you phone/text, and then data is $10/GB in 200 or so countries. If you anticipate a month of heavy data usage, you can upgrade to their unlimited data plan for a month and then downgrade again.
#34
Join Date: Jul 2007
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US Mobile released some updates to their plans yesterday - including updating their "Unlimited Premium" plan to include 10GB of international roaming data in 100 countries (plus 500 minutes/1000 text), per billing cycle. That's in addition to the 100GB of high-speed data (50GB hotspot) that plan offers domestically. This is only on their "GSM 5G" plan, which is T-Mobile based and costs $50/month (their equivalent "Warp 5G" plan which is Verizon includes international data, but it's done using eSIMs that you need to obtain before use so it's as clean).
Likely not the cheapest option, but a fair compromise for unlimited data in the US, and a reasonable amount outside, without having to use eSIMs.
I've been using US Mobile for about 4 months so far, and haven't had any problems with them. Their website/app are good, and service seems fine (although I'm on their Warp/Verizon plan not the T-Mobile one at this stage). They do have a referral program, but as the person being referred doesn't get anything out of it I won't post it here. DM me if you want a link...
Likely not the cheapest option, but a fair compromise for unlimited data in the US, and a reasonable amount outside, without having to use eSIMs.
I've been using US Mobile for about 4 months so far, and haven't had any problems with them. Their website/app are good, and service seems fine (although I'm on their Warp/Verizon plan not the T-Mobile one at this stage). They do have a referral program, but as the person being referred doesn't get anything out of it I won't post it here. DM me if you want a link...
#36
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 550
US Mobile released some updates to their plans yesterday - including updating their "Unlimited Premium" plan to include 10GB of international roaming data in 100 countries (plus 500 minutes/1000 text), per billing cycle. That's in addition to the 100GB of high-speed data (50GB hotspot) that plan offers domestically. This is only on their "GSM 5G" plan, which is T-Mobile based and costs $50/month (their equivalent "Warp 5G" plan which is Verizon includes international data, but it's done using eSIMs that you need to obtain before use so it's as clean).
Likely not the cheapest option, but a fair compromise for unlimited data in the US, and a reasonable amount outside, without having to use eSIMs.
I've been using US Mobile for about 4 months so far, and haven't had any problems with them. Their website/app are good, and service seems fine (although I'm on their Warp/Verizon plan not the T-Mobile one at this stage). They do have a referral program, but as the person being referred doesn't get anything out of it I won't post it here. DM me if you want a link...
Likely not the cheapest option, but a fair compromise for unlimited data in the US, and a reasonable amount outside, without having to use eSIMs.
I've been using US Mobile for about 4 months so far, and haven't had any problems with them. Their website/app are good, and service seems fine (although I'm on their Warp/Verizon plan not the T-Mobile one at this stage). They do have a referral program, but as the person being referred doesn't get anything out of it I won't post it here. DM me if you want a link...
I wanted to have this in place for my iPhone 15 Pro Max as an esim to transfer today when I do the setup from my current 14PM to the new phone.
#37
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Join Date: Sep 2002
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My US T-Mobile plan gives me data and voice in over 200 countries. The speed is generally fine, but I also usually download offline Google Maps data f
r wherever I go. There have been very few places where I didn't have service and I purchased a local SIM card, but those were not places most people would travel to. I've got an older plan where I pay $17/line/month + taxes.

#38
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 550
I've been exploring the US Mobile plans since enrolling in the "Warp 5G" service a few days ago.
They have a nearly perfect travel plan based on T-Mobile domestic service for $50 a month (Plan is GSM 5G, Single Line=$50, 2=$90, 3=$120) inc. taxes & fees. It includes 100Gb of 5G high speed data & 50Gb of hot spot in the US. The place it really shines is in the included international features. You get 10Gb of high speed data, 1000 texts, and 500 minutes of calls in 102 countries around the world per billing period. Oddly, the 500 minutes of calling does not include calls to the US, but I think WiFi and IMS functions are easy and practical for those calls.
They have sim cards and esims, and a decent phone app. The web site is easy to navigate and use for info and account details. I must say, if I didn't already have T-Mobile with grandfathered roaming service, this would be a serious contender for domestic and travel cell service. I have only contacted customer service once, but comments are generally quite favorable on Reddit from current users.
These features were introduced around 9-20-23, so take a look if you haven't been there lately.
https://www.usmobile.com/
Edited to add: In backtracking this thread I discovered I had duplicated docbert advice with my posting about the recent version of US Mobile's plan for travel. I apologize to the community and especially docbert for this faux pas on my part. They say never ruin an apology with an explanation, so I'm sorry for this apparent plagiarism.
They have a nearly perfect travel plan based on T-Mobile domestic service for $50 a month (Plan is GSM 5G, Single Line=$50, 2=$90, 3=$120) inc. taxes & fees. It includes 100Gb of 5G high speed data & 50Gb of hot spot in the US. The place it really shines is in the included international features. You get 10Gb of high speed data, 1000 texts, and 500 minutes of calls in 102 countries around the world per billing period. Oddly, the 500 minutes of calling does not include calls to the US, but I think WiFi and IMS functions are easy and practical for those calls.
They have sim cards and esims, and a decent phone app. The web site is easy to navigate and use for info and account details. I must say, if I didn't already have T-Mobile with grandfathered roaming service, this would be a serious contender for domestic and travel cell service. I have only contacted customer service once, but comments are generally quite favorable on Reddit from current users.
These features were introduced around 9-20-23, so take a look if you haven't been there lately.
https://www.usmobile.com/
Edited to add: In backtracking this thread I discovered I had duplicated docbert advice with my posting about the recent version of US Mobile's plan for travel. I apologize to the community and especially docbert for this faux pas on my part. They say never ruin an apology with an explanation, so I'm sorry for this apparent plagiarism.
Last edited by draver; Sep 27, 23 at 7:04 am
#39
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Join Date: May 2001
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Just want to report back so far on my poor man's solution: iPhone 11 + Tello voice/text only + various eSIMs (Eskimo, 3 HK and ChungHwa Telecom in Taiwan).
It seems the 3HK eSIM is kind of slow but it works - can't beat the price 1 year 30 GB + 5 GB for social media for about US$35 (US, Canada, NZ, AU, UK and HK). The Eskimo one seems faster even though it is farther (in Singapore) relative to North America. Yes, I get a HK IP.
Tello has worked well for me. I just use the $7/month 500 minute plan with no data. When I am outside the US, with Wifi Calling enabled, it says Tello over Cellular Data (or Wifi if I have Wifi). The good thing is they don't have roaming so I don't have to worry about accidentally racking up roaming charges.
The big thing with Tello and I guess with any carrier is that iPhone Visual Voice Mail requires a data connection. So, it is back to voicemail the old fashion way.
By the way, I still have the legacy T-Mobile PAYGO. I was able to add $1 and extend the validity by 1 year!
It seems the 3HK eSIM is kind of slow but it works - can't beat the price 1 year 30 GB + 5 GB for social media for about US$35 (US, Canada, NZ, AU, UK and HK). The Eskimo one seems faster even though it is farther (in Singapore) relative to North America. Yes, I get a HK IP.
Tello has worked well for me. I just use the $7/month 500 minute plan with no data. When I am outside the US, with Wifi Calling enabled, it says Tello over Cellular Data (or Wifi if I have Wifi). The good thing is they don't have roaming so I don't have to worry about accidentally racking up roaming charges.
The big thing with Tello and I guess with any carrier is that iPhone Visual Voice Mail requires a data connection. So, it is back to voicemail the old fashion way.
By the way, I still have the legacy T-Mobile PAYGO. I was able to add $1 and extend the validity by 1 year!
Last edited by username; Oct 2, 23 at 5:17 am