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Separating user files from the OS drive
Had an interesting conversation this morning with someone. We were talking about new computers/workstations. I had mentioned that I prefer to have a separate "drive" for my user data, whether it would be a physical or logical. The other person said it was too much of a hassle and no real point as long as you kept the data in a separate folder (ala My Documents). I'm curious what others think about this. Do you use a separate "drive" (can be NAS or anything) or do you just put your user data (documents or media or whatever) in another folder?
There is no right or wrong, Just curious if I'm one of the outliers on how I organize my files (given the choice) or were they? (As long as it works for you, that's cool) |
Separate drive always, then I can easily reformat/reinstall the OS without impacting the files. Can’t do that as easily if it’s just a folder on the system drive.
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That was part of the logic I had too. But they said it added additional work... But being able to wipe the drive (my preference is a physically separate drive vs a partition) while having the data safe is so convenient (and not having to restore from backups).
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All my user data is on the same drive as the OS, but is backed up to 2 different cloud services, and also to my NAS. So, not an issue if I need to rebuild.
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Originally Posted by DYKWIA
(Post 33689529)
All my user data is on the same drive as the OS, but is backed up to 2 different cloud services, and also to my NAS. So, not an issue if I need to rebuild.
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Originally Posted by StuckInYYZ
(Post 33688862)
That was part of the logic I had too. But they said it added additional work... But being able to wipe the drive (my preference is a physically separate drive vs a partition) while having the data safe is so convenient (and not having to restore from backups).
Maybe my storage volume has forced my approach. On a laptop, I’m of the opinion that everything should be SSD these days, but on a desktop PC, I use SSDs for the OS and a limited set of files that materially benefit from the technology, and massive hard drives for most file storage since $/TB at the scale I’d need to actually store everything is prohibitive in SSDs. |
Originally Posted by javabytes
(Post 33690854)
I’m not sure how exactly it’s extra work, beyond equipping the machine with a second drive in the first place. I’ve never stored files in My Documents or any of the other predefined folders that would normally go on the system drive, so I don’t do any work to remap them. I think iTunes might be the one piece of software I had to do a symbolic link for. I suppose if it’s a shared machine it’s more work to get everyone on board with that kind of approach though.
Originally Posted by javabytes
(Post 33690854)
Maybe my storage volume has forced my approach. On a laptop, I’m of the opinion that everything should be SSD these days, but on a desktop PC, I use SSDs for the OS and a limited set of files that materially benefit from the technology, and massive hard drives for most file storage since $/TB at the scale I’d need to actually store everything is prohibitive in SSDs.
For laptops, one of my must haves is a second HDD/SSD slot (2.5 or m.2,). If it's m.2 and nvme, then I will limit that to 1Tb (and that's already expensive enough). |
On my desktop computers, OS is on the C: drive, user data is on a separate D: drive, and My Documents folder is a OneDrive folder inside the user data folder.
For my laptops, I just link my OneDrive folder to the My Documents folder. |
I don't bother doing this anymore. I do have a second drive for large files (I'm into photography) but everything else I have including the OS fits easily on a 1TB SSD. I haven't had one fail yet and can't remember the last time I had to reinstall Windows. And everything is backed up locally as well as to the cloud. If I had to wipe one of my machines, it is easy to restore the data to where it belongs.
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Originally Posted by pseudoswede
(Post 33693267)
On my desktop computers, OS is on the C: drive, user data is on a separate D: drive, and My Documents folder is a OneDrive folder inside the user data folder.
For my laptops, I just link my OneDrive folder to the My Documents folder.
Originally Posted by thesun
(Post 33695704)
I don't bother doing this anymore. I do have a second drive for large files (I'm into photography) but everything else I have including the OS fits easily on a 1TB SSD. I haven't had one fail yet and can't remember the last time I had to reinstall Windows. And everything is backed up locally as well as to the cloud. If I had to wipe one of my machines, it is easy to restore the data to where it belongs.
That said, I have been avoiding backing up files to the cloud. While we haven't really seen a big breach, I'm sure it's coming and I'm sure the compromise will be bad too... |
Originally Posted by StuckInYYZ
(Post 33696090)
That said, I have been avoiding backing up files to the cloud. While we haven't really seen a big breach, I'm sure it's coming and I'm sure the compromise will be bad too...
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With SSDs and cloud backup options out the wazoo, this is much less of an issue today than even five years ago.
But I still partition any new laptop hard drive with a D drive for data (if for no other reason than alliteration!). |
My work computer points My Documents, Pictures, Desktop, and a couple others to our OneDrive. I assume they could easily reimagined the laptop and point it to my OneDrive instance, where all my docs would be.
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Originally Posted by thesun
(Post 33697820)
Everything is a balance of risk and convenience. Chance of losing your onsite backups vs having an issue with your offsite. It would probably be safer to store an encrypted copy on an external drive and keep it in a safe deposit box but that is definitely inconvenient to update. There are cloud services that offer zero knowledge encryption on the server side but ultimately there's always some client program that needs to be able to decrypt the data. This is what I do for my cloud backups but it really depends on you trusting the client application. Personally, I'm not too concerned.
Personally, my critical files (eg, scans of sensitive documents or my password file) are encrypted (yes, I am paranoid sometimes) but it still doesn't hurt to take a few extra precautions. |
I have my OS/Programs on an SSD and my files on a HDD, but mostly due to size/space considerations when I purchased the PC. Anything over a 128GB SSD was pricey at the time.
But even looking at a new machine, 3TB of SDD doesn't seem to make economic sense - I'd probably still stick with a 500GB-1TB SSD and a 2GB 7200RPM HDD and keep them separate. I suspect recovering my files from cloud backup and migrating to a new computer will both be easier if/when I need to. |
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