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eSIM support for phone without eSIM (can move eSIM across phones)

Old Oct 8, 21, 10:07 pm
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eSIM support for phone without eSIM (or use it to move eSIM across phones)

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referral link: https://esim.me/esim.me-for-my-andro...DerBs6KoIxA2yt
non-referral link: https://esim.me


Can say that this product works with my single-sim phone (Samsung A71 5G T-mobile and manually sim-unlocked). play store reviews show other phone models working too
(had some initial difficulties with my phone, see thread below: the manufacturer is pretty responsive and help fix some of the issues)


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looks like this product allows you to insert a physical sim card into a phone without eSIM, and activate eSIM profiles on that physical sim

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referral link: https://esim.me/esim.me-for-my-andro...DerBs6KoIxA2yt
non-referral link: https://esim.me

can store 10+ eSIM profiles on card, need their app to switch profiles.
$30 for the card, card itself doesn't seem to expire(your eSIM profiles will expire as described by your eSIM provider), not sure if their app can be used offline (or sim card only lasts the length of the company)

you need a modern android phones (android 9+, needed to write data to SIM card in order to switch profile).
older androids and iPhones cannot switch/activate eSIM profile, but you can insert the sim (it'll use the last active profile that you activated from another android phone)


who wants to be guinea pig?



wayback machine shows first capture in march 2021, another version in Nov 2018 (different layout, but also same eSIM physical card product)
their app on google store, first released Sep 30, 2021

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Old Oct 9, 21, 5:17 am
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This reminds me of the Appls Sim Card introduced in iPads 3-5 or so years ago. I may still have an unused one around somewhere. I've often wondered when this would become a reality. It seems like a fairly simple concept and should be easy to implement. If it actually works properly it is going to be a big hit with all the Samsung users who have been waiting for their esims to be available via updates.

Edited to add: It just occurred to me that carriers like T-Mobile still do not issue esims to Android devices yet as far as I know. This may be a problem unless you can find a way to set up your line on this sim and then move it into your Samsung phone.

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Old Oct 10, 21, 9:04 am
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Originally Posted by draver View Post

Edited to add: It just occurred to me that carriers like T-Mobile still do not issue esims to Android devices yet as far as I know. This may be a problem unless you can find a way to set up your line on this sim and then move it into your Samsung phone.
decided to be a guinea pig and order a esim.me

TMobile allows Android esim now(qr code).

Infact, the TMobile note 20 ultra was first usa-samsung-model to get esim update earlier this year (some TMobile and unlocked usa s21 models are getting esim update via oneui4 beta earlier this month)
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Old Oct 11, 21, 4:54 am
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Unfortunately the Note 20 Ultra is the exception rather than the rule. I wonder why they (Samsung) are so reluctant to engineer this into their products and OS? I have heard over the years that the carriers don't like the flexibility it affords users to shift between carriers, but it is here to stay, and they should know that. It might help them sell a few more phones instead of losing business to Apple because of it.

Paperwastage,

Please keep us updated on your experience with the setup and service with esim.me.
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Old Oct 12, 21, 2:29 am
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Originally Posted by paperwastage View Post
decided to be a guinea pig and order a esim.me
Keep us updated!
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Old Oct 21, 21, 1:17 pm
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Please keep us updated on your experience with the setup and service with esim.me.
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Keep us updated!
short update: I can confirm the "Core" idea of the technology works.
Another user also PM'd me, saying that it worked out of box for them without any issues (on non-native-esim phone: able to use app, add a few different eSIM providers to use on this esim.me product)

for me:
1) my samsung A71 5G phone doesn't work for some reason. listed as supported on their website (checks all boxes: android 9+, samsung, manually sim unlocked). The team is quite responsive, we're troubleshooting why
2) I do have a secondary device (Surface Duo1) which has native eSIM. I am able to use this device to verify the "core" technology
A) able to "put" a eSIM profile on the esim.me SIM
B) able to delete/change/add esim profiles on esim.me SIM
C) able to eject esim.me SIM, and put it on another phone (eg my "unsupported" Samsung), and my "unsupported" Samsung will use the last activated esim profile

note: there are some tricky fineprint when using on native eSIM phones (depends on your android version). Will explain the fineprint in my full writeup
On Android 10, you may not be able to use native eSIM plus eSIM.ME esim at the same time (cannot fully confirm yet)
On Android 11, you should be able to use both native eSIM plus eSIM.ME esim (cannot confirm yet).

hence, the "core" technology seems to be fine. will provide a full update/writeup after troubleshooting the issue on my "unsupported" phone
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Old Oct 21, 21, 1:30 pm
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on esim.me website, under A71 5G, "David Lin" posted a review saying it works for A71 5G


but if you switch to another product (eg Pixel 4a 5G), "David Lin" posted a review saying it works for Pixel 4a 5G.
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Old Oct 21, 21, 3:30 pm
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Originally Posted by paperwastage View Post
on esim.me website, under A71 5G, "David Lin" posted a review saying it works for A71 5G


but if you switch to another product (eg Pixel 4a 5G), "David Lin" posted a review saying it works for Pixel 4a 5G.
Hi,

this is Chris from eSIM.me, thank you for pointing this out.

These were test entries along the setup of the database of the handsets to verify our site works properly.
We intentionally used the same user and text so that it is obvious that the review was for test purposes.

We have now removed the test reviews.

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Old Oct 21, 21, 4:47 pm
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Originally Posted by paperwastage View Post
short update: I can confirm the "Core" idea of the technology works.
Another user also PM'd me, saying that it worked out of box for them without any issues (on non-native-esim phone: able to use app, add a few different eSIM providers to use on this esim.me product)
Thanks for the initial review, paperwastage. I was also looking to use this on an A71 (tertiary device for me). It's good to know that there is some functionality as is, but having to swap the physical card to another device to change the active profile sort of defeats the purpose of having a retrofit eSIM capability.

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We have now removed the test reviews.
Thank you for the clarification, Chris. I also saw the same review on every page.
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Old Oct 21, 21, 5:10 pm
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Originally Posted by TelcoVillage2021 View Post
Hi,

this is Chris from eSIM.me, thank you for pointing this out.

These were test entries along the setup of the database of the handsets to verify our site works properly.
We intentionally used the same user and text so that it is obvious that the review was for test purposes.

We have now removed the test reviews.

Cheers,
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ah, they found me

but yeah, their team has been very responsive..... so hopefully everything works out in the end
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Thanks for the initial review, paperwastage. I was also looking to use this on an A71 (tertiary device for me). It's good to know that there is some functionality as is, but having to swap the physical card to another device to change the active profile sort of defeats the purpose of having a retrofit eSIM capability.
Will keep you/everyone updated as well.

pretty confident that this is just teething issues (you cant test every single android phone), expecting it to be fixed
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Old Oct 21, 21, 7:42 pm
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pretty confident that this is just teething issues (you cant test every single android phone), expecting it to be fixed
Did you get the A71 specific or generic Android eSIM module? I saw both but didn't know if there were any differences among these products.
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Old Oct 21, 21, 8:15 pm
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Did you get the A71 specific or generic Android eSIM module? I saw both but didn't know if there were any differences among these products.
I asked before purchasing, and this was their response (I purchased the generic Android one)

"Generic eSIM is the same product as the Samsung related one.

The reason we split this is to help people find their phone easier and to filter out the ones that are not supported"



During our technical troubleshooting, it was communicated again that its a generic "one-size-fits-all" SIM. they're sending me a new sim to try out, so maybe wait a bit? they ship from Germany, takes a few days (I'll have pictures/screenshots as part of my final writeup)
(again with the prompt responses/troubleshooting and desire to fix it)

their FAQ shows a 30-day 100% satisfaction refund policy, but not likely I'll trigger that
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Old Oct 21, 21, 9:45 pm
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During our technical troubleshooting, it was communicated again that its a generic "one-size-fits-all" SIM.
That makes sense. As a website suggestion I'd say list the single product and compatible phones rather than making it seem like they were offering many variations of the product. That combined with the test reviews made me pause purchasing even though their overview video was comprehensive.

I'm glad to know they stand behind their product, and I am looking forward to your full review.
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this is Chris from eSIM.me
Hi Chris, would you be willing to offer a coupon code for FT members ?
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Hi Chris, would you be willing to offer a coupon code for FT members ?
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