"Juice Jacking" — Are USB ports on aircraft or even Amtrak safe?
When flying or on the train, I charge my iPhone and/or iPad while using it. Given the recent publicity about "juice jacking", are the USB ports on Delta or any airline as well as on trains (Amtrak, Deutche Bahn, etc) safe?
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Snopes just chimed in.
They agree it's technically possible, but couldn't verify any reports of it happening; it's certainly not widespread https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ju...ecurity-issue/ |
Originally Posted by Analise
(Post 31753702)
When flying or on the train, I charge my iPhone and/or iPad while using it. Given the recent publicity about "juice jacking", are the USB ports on Delta or any airline as well as on trains (Amtrak, Deutche Bahn, etc) safe?
Aren't there still some power-only cables being sold out there for iOS devices? Either way, I tend to find a rechargeable portable battery with a cable or two to be fine by me. I would have to assume that "juice-jacking" on moving vehicles is not the highest risk way for devices' data to be compromised and grabbed by criminals, governments, and so on -- even as it's technically possible and been done before. |
If you're really concerned, and still want to use public usb ports, something like this might help...
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Originally Posted by IslesFan
(Post 31754507)
If you're really concerned, and still want to use public usb ports, something like this might help...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 |
So it looks like the news is making this more of a big deal than it really is.
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Originally Posted by Analise
(Post 31754669)
So it looks like the news is making this more of a big deal than it really is.
Remember all the hype about Y2k leading to massive problems? It's only that now there are way more stories to sell to way more people in way more ways. It's good to be informed about what could happen and does happen but it's more important to put it in perspective of what it really means. |
Originally Posted by Analise
(Post 31754669)
So it looks like the news is making this more of a big deal than it really is.
Current versions of iOS won't allow USB communication with a device you haven't explicitly authorized, and will require you to unlock your phone if it has been locked for more than an hour (by default at least). I think Android has similar restrictions. If you're still worried, just use a regular outlet to charge with a charger you bring. I do that anyway, since many public USB ports may not provide the full 2A that the phone can take...and newer phones can take even more with the correct charger. |
Originally Posted by gfunkdave
(Post 31754695)
As usual. Fear = more viewers = more ad revenue
Current versions of iOS won't allow USB communication with a device you haven't explicitly authorized, and will require you to unlock your phone if it has been locked for more than an hour (by default at least). I think Android has similar restrictions. If you're still worried, just use a regular outlet to charge with a charger you bring. I do that anyway, since many public USB ports may not provide the full 2A that the phone can take...and newer phones can take even more with the correct charger. |
Originally Posted by Analise
(Post 31753702)
When flying or on the train, I charge my iPhone and/or iPad while using it. Given the recent publicity about "juice jacking", are the USB ports on Delta or any airline as well as on trains (Amtrak, Deutche Bahn, etc) safe?
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Originally Posted by Analise
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So it looks like the news is making this more of a big deal than it really is.
This is truly a fake news. |
Fnord!
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Originally Posted by Sleepy_Sentry
(Post 31754899)
Why would anyone care about your data and how would they retrieve it from a secured moving vehicle? Unless you're a diplomat or someone with a security clearance I would not be concerned.
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Originally Posted by gfunkdave
(Post 31754695)
As usual. Fear = more viewers = more ad revenue
Current versions of iOS won't allow USB communication with a device you haven't explicitly authorized, and will require you to unlock your phone if it has been locked for more than an hour (by default at least). I think Android has similar restrictions. If you're still worried, just use a regular outlet to charge with a charger you bring. I do that anyway, since many public USB ports may not provide the full 2A that the phone can take...and newer phones can take even more with the correct charger. Juice Jacking attacks, in practice, don't really happen on any sort of widespread basis. And since the USB outlet needs to be physically modified in order to be compromised, it's much less likely to happen in controlled environments like planes than other locations where the outlet can be easily accessed for a longer period of time. But if you insist on plugging into USB ports anyway, a power-only USB cable easily allays any concerns. |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 31755240)
People with nefarious or otherwise unscrupulous intent get their jollies and returns in various ways. That could be anything from such types hoping to get device owner’s naked selfies, to get device owner’s frequent flyer and other account info from their device-stored emails/notes, to get the calendar and travel history/plans of the device owner and thereby plot a home burglary when the device owner is known to most likely be gone, or who knows what else.
Stealing personal information in this way would be far too time-intensive and costly to be worth anyone's time. Anyone with the skills to pull this off is too smart to rob your house and can more easily hack your data online. |
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