Aug 29, 2019, 11:19 am
Last edit by: Metanoia
This list runs most extreme to least extreme. Airlines will appear once in the most restrictive category. Let's add links to the primary source if possible
Checked Baggage
Airlines with stated bans of affected 15" Macbook Pros in checked bags
Emirates
Thai
Singapore
Qantas
Virgin Australia
Onboard
Airlines that have stated bans of onboard possession of affected Macbook Pros
Thai
Singapore
Airlines with stated onboard usage bans of ALL Apple Macbook Pros (can be carried but not used)
Qantas (likely to be all Apple laptops in practice, let's be honest)
Airlines with stated onboard usage bans of affected Macbook Pros:
Emirates
United
Checked Baggage
Airlines with stated bans of affected 15" Macbook Pros in checked bags
Emirates
Thai
Singapore
Qantas
Virgin Australia
Onboard
Airlines that have stated bans of onboard possession of affected Macbook Pros
Thai
Singapore
Airlines with stated onboard usage bans of ALL Apple Macbook Pros (can be carried but not used)
Qantas (likely to be all Apple laptops in practice, let's be honest)
Airlines with stated onboard usage bans of affected Macbook Pros:
Emirates
United
Recalled 2015 15-Inch MacBook Pro Models With Faulty Batteries Banned From US Flights
Aug 14, 2019, 4:07 pm
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MBP 2015 models are not really replaceable with anything.
Aug 14, 2019, 9:38 pm
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If you do an 'About This Mac', it will show the model and year - mine shows "Macbook Pro (15 Inch Late 2016). FWIW I had my battery replaced during their prior keyboard fiasco because replacing the keyboard requires replacing the battery. The 2016 and 2015 models look exactly the same - but absent an official ban by an airline or government agency, I doubt there is anything they can do to stop you from bringing it onboard, it's not like the gate agent is going to look into everyone's bag and inspect the contents. With Precheck, you're not taking the laptop out of the bag, so TSA won't see it either.
The only possible issue I can see is bringing it out during the flight for use and having some looney tune flight attendant start shrieking about it. I don't think the Samsung Note ban was ever effective, I am sure thousands of those phones were flying during the ban, just concealed in owners' bags.
The only possible issue I can see is bringing it out during the flight for use and having some looney tune flight attendant start shrieking about it. I don't think the Samsung Note ban was ever effective, I am sure thousands of those phones were flying during the ban, just concealed in owners' bags.
Aug 15, 2019, 12:06 am
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EU bulletin recommending bans by airlines https://www.easa.europa.eu/newsroom-...ble-electronic
and https://ad.easa.europa.eu/ad/2017-01
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-from-flights/
Flying in a few hours with a 2015 model than is not affected (as per apple) will post any updates if/when they happen
and https://ad.easa.europa.eu/ad/2017-01
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-from-flights/
Flying in a few hours with a 2015 model than is not affected (as per apple) will post any updates if/when they happen
Aug 15, 2019, 12:52 am
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Here's the FAA tweet -
How are they going to enforce this I don't know. Will check-in & gate agents look up SN# for everyone checking in with a Macbook? And then leave those pax behind?
How are they going to enforce this I don't know. Will check-in & gate agents look up SN# for everyone checking in with a Macbook? And then leave those pax behind?
Aug 15, 2019, 12:25 pm
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Insightful comment from Hacker News:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20691501
[The ban] will probably be quite effective. Travelers will see these articles, and airlines will probably send out reminders to people not to bring these machines on the plane. Most people with them will get them fixed or leave them at home, and the risk is greatly diminished.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20691501
Aug 16, 2019, 9:09 am
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I'm still hoping to be flying home today with my affected (repaired) MacBook Pro, and I don't intend to take it out during the flight--or cop to having one if anyone asks.
Aug 16, 2019, 11:11 pm
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If Apple wasn't so anti-consumer, this would be a non-issue. On our office-issued Lenovo Thinkpads, popping a defective battery out of the machine involves pushing a single slide. With the 2009 MBP I'm typing this on, it's just a matter of unscrewing the back, using a special screwdriver to remove the battery connector, and it comes right out. Simple. But nooooo.. Apple won't allow that with the new ones where they glue the batteries in.
Being able to field-swap parts in the field is why I've clung to this 2009 MBP and my Samsung Note 4, both which can be fully disassembled and repaired in the field with a screwdriver set. It's also why this MBP is getting replaced with a Thinkpad later this year.
Being able to field-swap parts in the field is why I've clung to this 2009 MBP and my Samsung Note 4, both which can be fully disassembled and repaired in the field with a screwdriver set. It's also why this MBP is getting replaced with a Thinkpad later this year.
Aug 17, 2019, 12:10 am
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While I agree that Apple is so anti-consumer, but you can't really blame Apple for putting the batter inside the MBP. At the minimum, Apple is not alone on this. Even Thankpad X1 has its battery installed inside the casing.
But yes - Apple's repair policy does make it difficult to fix the problem.
But yes - Apple's repair policy does make it difficult to fix the problem.