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danielonn Oct 19, 2018 1:30 pm


Originally Posted by Explore (Post 30307642)
Can you avoid VZW charges simply by keeping cellular data off, without activating airplane mode? I’d want GPS for offline Google maps etc.

This is why we have TMobile! We get free texting in 210+ Countries plus Free Data at 2G Speeds (great for GPS Maps- emails) and 25 cent incoming and outgoing calls plus free WIFI calling! With so many free WIFI Hotspots this is when I watch my YouTube. You don;t know how good it feels to be able to checkin for your flight using data in a park in Amsterdam!

yyznomad Oct 19, 2018 1:43 pm

There are apps for devices other than phones that do SMS over Wi-fi.

kennycrudup Oct 21, 2018 2:30 pm


Originally Posted by yyznomad (Post 30333814)
There are apps for devices other than phones that do SMS over Wi-fi.

Yup, my main number is Google Voice, so I get my texts on any device and all I need is an Internet connection. Texting any number at 35K ft FTW!

Explore Oct 23, 2018 5:22 am

Success!
 
A week in Europe using data, text and voice over Wi-fi with no Verizon charges! On my I-Phone, cell data and roaming off, wi-fi calling and "prefer wi-fi while roaming" on.

I did get texts from Verizon when I arrived in a new country, referring to the Travelpass, but no Travelpass days were activated.

Question: does wi-fi texting and calling work from most countries? Any major exceptions? Can you call in-country and to a third country for free - if so do you start with 011 and then the country code as if calling from the U.S.?

TWA884 Oct 23, 2018 8:59 am


Originally Posted by Explore (Post 30346029)
Question: does wi-fi texting and calling work from most countries? Any major exceptions? Can you call in-country and to a third country for free - if so do you start with 011 and then the country code as if calling from the U.S.?

Regardless of where you are, the charges for Verizon WiFi calling are exactly the same as for calls originating in the US.
Wi-Fi Calling FAQs


How much does Wi-Fi Calling cost?

The Wi-Fi Calling feature is available at no additional charge, and is included in your existing monthly voice plan. Your Wi-Fi calls to US numbers, regardless of where you are located, are also free of charge (except for 411 and other premium calls). Wi-Fi calls to international numbers are billed as "International Calling While in the US" (also known as International Long Distance). If an international rate plan exists on your account, international calls are billed at those rates. A Wi-Fi Calling icon will appear on your screen during the call to confirm that it is using Wi-Fi to connect it. If the call is using the Verizon or a roaming network, standard voice charges apply.
Terms & Conditions: Wi-Fi Calling


Any Wi-Fi call made to a U.S. number will be treated as a domestic call, no matter where the call originates. Any Wi-Fi call made to a non-U.S. number will be treated as an international call.
As far as dialing, I programmed my phone to dial the + symbol and country code for all calls, cellular and WiFi calling, regardless of whether I am in the US or abroad (i.e., +1-212-555-1212). I seldom have a problem with the calls connecting (except in Mexico, where I have to dial Mexican numbers without a country code while roaming on my TravelPass plan).

gfunkdave Oct 23, 2018 9:02 am


Originally Posted by Explore (Post 30346029)
Question: does wi-fi texting and calling work from most countries? Any major exceptions? Can you call in-country and to a third country for free - if so do you start with 011 and then the country code as if calling from the U.S.?

Works anywhere with an internet connection that lets your phone set up the IPSec VPN to Verizon.

Calling I believe is charged as if you were calling the country you're calling from the US.

Use the + instead of 011. 011 is a peculiarity of the North American phone system. Most other countries use 00. + is the GSM worldwide standard for the international access code wherever you are.

On the iPhone, you can also instead turn on Dial Assist, which will determine the correct prefix wherever you are. Settings - Phone - Dial Assist.
Or, in the phone app, hold down 0 to get the + sign.

DataJunkie Nov 10, 2018 12:10 pm

Works on Verizon. I was shocked when we were in Oban, Scotland and I got a text from my mom. I thought she had turned off airplane mode and was roaming. Turns out the texts came through our wifi!

LordHamster Nov 15, 2018 10:38 am

Slightly off topic: If you travel alot, I’d STRONGLY encourage you to use an iP based messaging app. In order of my preference

1. Signal (Cross Platform)
2. iMessage (for iphones)
3. WhatApp (Cross platform)

Get your most frequently texted contacts to download and use the tool whist you are traveling... even if they don’t want to adopt it for day-to-day. Most of these also enable options like voice and video calling over wifi

You’ll thank me later.

tmiw Nov 15, 2018 11:12 am


Originally Posted by LordHamster (Post 30432848)
Slightly off topic: If you travel alot, I’d STRONGLY encourage you to use an iP based messaging app. In order of my preference

1. Signal (Cross Platform)
2. iMessage (for iphones)
3. WhatApp (Cross platform)

Get your most frequently texted contacts to download and use the tool whist you are traveling... even if they don’t want to adopt it for day-to-day. Most of these also enable options like voice and video calling over wifi

You’ll thank me later.

In fact, I'd almost say that the US is one of the few countries that still uses SMS on a widespread basis. For instance, WhatsApp is common enough in Mexico such that the carriers carve out separate data caps just for it (e.g. 1GB for WhatsApp and maybe 3-4GB for everything else).

synthkeys Nov 15, 2018 8:55 pm

I would add if you are traveling to China, install WeChat and have your loved ones and important contacts do the same. iMessage works and I've had some success with Verizon Wifi calling and text in China but everything else (e.g. WhatsApp) is now blocked. You can circumvent the block with a good VPN, so have a strategy before traveling to China.

DragonSoul Nov 15, 2018 9:30 pm


Originally Posted by synthkeys (Post 30434781)
I would add if you are traveling to China, install WeChat and have your loved ones and important contacts do the same. iMessage works and I've had some success with Verizon Wifi calling and text in China but everything else (e.g. WhatsApp) is now blocked. You can circumvent the block with a good VPN, so have a strategy before traveling to China.

Because the Chinese government monitors everything and Whatsapp won't let it. WeChat does.

synthkeys Nov 15, 2018 11:13 pm

I would add that If you are using an international roaming plan that works in China then you should bypass the Great Firewall. WhatApp and other blocked communication services should work in that case.

GUWonder Nov 16, 2018 4:18 am


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 30307335)
Yes, if you turn on wifi calling then you can stay in airplane mode, turn wifi back on, and Verizon (well, all carriers) will treat it as if you were in the US. Just make sure your phone says VZW Wifi.

It's actually creating an IPSec VPN connection back to Verizon and tunneling cell data over that connection. So voice and SMS work normally.

To be doubly sure of not being charged, turn off voice and data roaming in settings.

You might need to turn on wifi calling before you leave, when you're still connected to Verizon's network.

Works much the same way with T-mobile US when using it overseas. And it’s working as designed when the network connection shows as “T-mobile WI-Fi”. I am told this is also an option for T-mobile’s prepaid//pay-as-you-go customers.

cubbie Nov 16, 2018 7:22 am

Wow, this thread has been quite a find. Thanks for all the good info. Got my phone set up for my next trip with wifi calling turned on and an offline Google map downloaded. Looking forward to testing this out.

LAXlocal Nov 20, 2018 8:03 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 30435423)


Works much the same way with T-mobile US when using it overseas. And it’s working as designed when the network connection shows as “T-mobile WI-Fi”. I am told this is also an option for T-mobile’s prepaid//pay-as-you-go customers.

How do you set this up ?
and does your Tmobile PrePaid need to have Data ?

thanks


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