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s0ssos Mar 13, 2018 11:36 pm


Originally Posted by CPRich (Post 29520899)
"Fairbanks fat bike rental" returns
- Rented a Fatbike - Review of Beaver Sports, Fairbanks, AK
- "Rent a Bicycle and Explore Fairbanks"

Are you complaining that the subsequent hits are elsewhere? Perhaps it's because there are no others?

I tried "sjc limebike" and got nothing about ignoring terms. What I got was
-The San Jose Blog: LimeBike coming

And "Limebike in San Jose" returned many. many results



If you're looking for a search engine that will perfectly read you mind, rather then statistically guessing at what you want, I'm going to venture a guess that you won't find one.

Google seems to have changed its mind about the "sjc limebike" search query. The blog post was already there before my post (and I did read it), but wonder why all of a sudden it made its way up google's ranking.

And regarding reading my mind: I'm not asking it to read my mind. I'm just asking it to do something. Simple. And it doesn't do it anymore. It is like a machine designed to wash dishes, that now thinks it should tell me how I should cook instead (by "reading" my used plates).

joshwex90 Mar 15, 2018 2:57 am


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 29521133)
What about Bing? :)

OP wrote, "Bing doesn't seem to be any better."


Originally Posted by s0ssos (Post 29522436)
Google seems to have changed its mind about the "sjc limebike" search query. The blog post was already there before my post (and I did read it), but wonder why all of a sudden it made its way up google's ranking.

And regarding reading my mind: I'm not asking it to read my mind. I'm just asking it to do something. Simple. And it doesn't do it anymore. It is like a machine designed to wash dishes, that now thinks it should tell me how I should cook instead (by "reading" my used plates).

It takes time for pages to be indexed. While major sites ensure that their pages are indexed immediately (as do people in the know-how), a smaller blog may not do so, so until it gets indexed, it won't show up. Further, the more that page gets hits, the higher it ranks. So as everyone reading this thread continues to Google the exact same phrases, and click that link, the more it'll enshrine itself as number 1 for now.

s0ssos Mar 20, 2018 4:35 pm

Wow, google is becoming more and more useless at finding anything specific.

Like I recall hearing a story of a Stanford surgery resident who was falling asleep on the job, because he was actually staying up late at night coding. He ended up working full-time for what ended up known as google.

But of course, if you try any combination of words you cannot find any relevant results on "google", whether or not it is an urban legend or a true story.

DYKWIA Mar 22, 2018 2:39 am


Originally Posted by s0ssos (Post 29548178)
Wow, google is becoming more and more useless at finding anything specific.

Like I recall hearing a story of a Stanford surgery resident who was falling asleep on the job, because he was actually staying up late at night coding. He ended up working full-time for what ended up known as google.

But of course, if you try any combination of words you cannot find any relevant results on "google", whether or not it is an urban legend or a true story.

Google will have struggles return results for something that may not have happened...

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s0ssos Mar 25, 2018 11:21 pm


Originally Posted by DYKWIA (Post 29553421)
Google will have struggles return results for something that may not have happened...

So it was Jim Reese, who was a neurosurgery resident at Stanford and google employee # 18 or 19.

So why can't google find it?

Hammad Rafique Mar 26, 2018 3:44 pm

Bing is good one, their image search is better than Google and things are really simple.

KRSW Mar 26, 2018 5:16 pm


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 29519524)
You can put a plus sign in front of a keyword to force it to appear in search results.

Unfortunately, this feature has been removed. For awhile putting a keyword or phrase in quotes replaced it. Now it seems to ignore both of these.

s0ssos Apr 4, 2018 8:29 pm

Ah, brilliant google.

I search for "citibank atm boston" and it pulls a map for me, with the locations of citibanks in Seattle. Very helpful. Just ignore the term "Boston" and presume I am in Seattle (I have no idea how it would get that idea)

gfunkdave Apr 5, 2018 10:30 am

Works just fine for me. As we used to say in my IT days, I suspect a PEBCAK error. Problem Exists Between Chair and Keyboard :D

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b37c4df82f.png

s0ssos Apr 5, 2018 10:49 pm


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 29606166)
Works just fine for me. As we used to say in my IT days, I suspect a PEBCAK error. Problem Exists Between Chair and Keyboard :D

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b37c4df82f.png

Nah. I don't have a screenshot, but what possible issue could I have? When you strike out all the impossibilities, then the very low probability events are true.

TIGA31328 Apr 5, 2018 10:58 pm

https://duckduckgo.com/

ajGoes Apr 6, 2018 6:13 am

It could be a short between the headphones.

joshwex90 Apr 8, 2018 1:30 am


Originally Posted by s0ssos (Post 29608533)
Nah. I don't have a screenshot, but what possible issue could I have? When you strike out all the impossibilities, then the very low probability events are true.

Can you replicate the issue?

JamesBigglesworth Apr 8, 2018 6:15 pm


Originally Posted by s0ssos (Post 29517727)
There are plenty of newspaper articles stating Limebike has come to San Jose. It isn't hard to find.

Google has plenty to work with, it just doesn't do a good job. And the problem is now it is basically a monopoly so there is nobody else.

If you understood how complicated it is to create a search engine then you'd understand just how good Google is at it. Search isn't about them finding things. It's about finding it, parsing it, and contextualizing it for third party query. That's hugely complicated. That they can do it at all is impressive. That said, you need to allow google to track your searches and activity and learn how to phrase things so it can generate more accurately.

If you don't like the idea of tracking then try something like duckduckgo.com.


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