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Old Feb 10, 2019, 10:52 am
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If you want to use USB C for more than charging, then these two posts are useful: 1 2.

When planning your charger loadout, do note the charger your laptop shipped with is not a requirement, a lower one will be fine. For example, https://9to5mac.com/2018/09/25/60w-u...-all-macbooks/ says

the 87W charger filled up my 15-inch MacBook Pro battery more quickly than the 60W charger, but not by very much. After an hour and a half, the 87W charger added 76% battery while the 60W charger added 72%.
On the other hand, most laptops are not built to use higher wattage even if available. It won't hurt your laptop, though.

Buy chargers on Amazon at your own risk, they are known to commingle stock from every third party sellers. But, the chargers here do not have fakes (yet?) so even Amazon might be safe.

The smallest USB C chargers:
  1. Mu One. 45W. Comes with UK, US, EU folding plugs. 96 x 55 x 14mm, 82g with the UK plug attached. 3.78 x 2.17 x 0.55 inch, 2.89oz. Manufacturer shop, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N1PK1RP https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07N1PK1RP
  2. RAVPower GaN 45W : 72 x 54 x 14.9mm / 2.83 x 2.12 x 0.59inch, 75g / 2.65oz. This is a similar charger to Mu One only without the nifty plug heads. It is marginally cheaper, but without the unique multi-region folding plugs it isn't as good of an option for international travelers. Manufacturer shop, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H9WMW6N
  3. Innergie 60C (nee 55CC): 65W 60 x 30 x 30mm / 2.3 x 1.2 x 1.2 inch, 85g. While much thicker than the previous two, when the socket is hidden in a recess this has a much better chance to fit. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GBYVF4Q Also, a cable is available to charge legacy laptops https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GBYL5KZ only compatible with the Innergie 60C. This makes the Finsix Dart fully obsolete, it started as a legacy laptop charger and a USB C cable was planned and reviewed two years ago but never shipped.
If you have more than one USB C device:
  1. Satechi 75W: USB C 60W, USB C 18W, two USB A share 12W. 4" x 2.63" x 1", 11.14 oz. Manufacturer shop https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078864F15
  2. LVSUN LS-PD87-2C sold as Hyperjuice 87W charger: two USB C and one USB A all three share 87W. 4.33" x 3.86" x 0.79", 8.32oz Aliexpress Hyper https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KLWDY9C
  3. Hyperjuice battery: 27000 mAh USB C 100W, USB C 60W, USB A 18W. 7.2" x 3" x 0.84" / 183.2 x 77.1 x 21.3 mm Manufacturer shop (although it goes through indiegogo, it is not crowdfunding, it's just a shop)
  4. Maru & Masa Kickstarter: Maru is a 82mm/3.23" diameter bagel, 28mm/1.1" thick, 7.4oz, USB C 45W, USB C 18W, two USB A share 15W, three international AC sockets, nifty interchangeable international plugs. Masa is a battery 80 x 80 x 28 / 3.15" x 3.15" x 1.1" , 11.3oz 18000 mAh, USB C 45W, USB C 15W, Qi 7.5W, kickstand. Promised shipping: April 2019 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...e-yet-powerful
  5. SuperTank & SuperPort 4 Kickstarter: SuperPort 4 is a 114 x 100 x 24 / 4.5" x 3.95" x .95" charger, weight not disclosed, USB C 100W, USB C 18W, two USB ports share 18W. SuperTank is a 27000 mAh battery w/ lots of features, 4.7" x 2.8" x 1.6", 17oz USB C 100W, USB C 60W, USB A 18W, USB A 15W all ports share 138W Promised shipping: May 2019 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ek-recharge-in
  6. AlsterPlus Kickstarter: 7.4" x 3.28" x 0.85", 20oz / 568gr, 27000mAh battery with 2 x 100W USB-C + 2x 18W USB-A, lots of features. All ports share 156W.
  7. Anker Atom PD4. Two USB C, two USB A all share 100W, USB A per port is 12W max. 4.1" x 3.3" x 1.3", 13.5oz. https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Chargin.../dp/B07VSMK849
  8. MagicFox PD180. This is a DC-DC unit, it takes 12-28V 180W via a 5.5mm x 2.5mm jack or 100W max via USB- C input and provides three ports: USB C 100W, USB C 40W, USB A 40W. Size 3.15" x 2.76" x 0.53", 3.44oz. Possible interesting AC-DC choices: Lenovo 4X20Q88542 at 135W either from Encompass with very long ship times or from Japan via Rakuten, Lenovo-to-5.5mm plug adapter here. 4.65" x 3" x .83", 15.24oz. If that's not enough Razer has a 180W which, AFAIK has the right plug. Notably light at 14.82oz, 5.98" / 152mm x 2.87" / 73mm x 0.93" / 23.5mm. The MagicFox PD180 itself is, so far, China only, I had good experiences with Superbuy as proxy so https://www.superbuy.com/en/page/buy...832086035.html While the MagicFox PD180 itself is cheap, high wattage, quality, lightweight AC-DC adapters are anything but.
Getting multiple units from the small section can be more compact and versatile. It is expensive, though and requires plugging multiple devices. Recommended: power strip, wall tap, wall tap. Add USB A ports via slim chargers, Amazon list and https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016XO41KQ/

Cabling wise, AmazomBasics and Monoprice is your friend. Do not use female USB C to USB A / micro USB adapters, these are explicitly forbidden by the USB C standard. Male USB C to USB A / micro USB is fine.

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Outfitting your travel kit for USB-C

Old Sep 11, 2019, 6:45 pm
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Originally Posted by wco81
Hmm I don’t know if I can charge my 15 inch HP Spectre via the USB-C. It came with a huge brick so that small charger would be great if it worked.
Depends on the model year

Hp has been known to block 3rd party charger and only allow their proprietary usb-c chargers. Some of their newer products are less restrictive and allow 3rd party usbC charges
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I bought it last year.

What is the point of the PD spec if companies can detect and block third party PD chargers?

The HP USB C charger is over $100 and appears to be as big as the regular charging brick so not much savings in size or weight for travel.
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Originally Posted by wco81
I bought it last year.

What is the point of the PD spec if companies can detect and block third party PD chargers?

The HP USB C charger is over $100 and appears to be as big as the regular charging brick so not much savings in size or weight for travel.
PD spec is optional. Heck, even within PD version1, 12V was optional and some chargers skip that voltage (goes between 5/9/15/20V).

Latest spec supports variable voltage from 5-20V



USB typeC physical connector is an improvement over microUSB/proprietary barrel connectors, but the actual charging can suck. Best you can rely on is 5V/2A, need to manually confirm PD support AND voltage support AND amperage support too (eg 30W chargers allow 20V/1.5A, but some laptops prefer 20V/3A to charge faster. Still charges slower at 20V/1.5A)

Nintendo switch uses that physical connector, but doesn't comform to the power spec or the display-ouput spec either

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Old Sep 13, 2019, 4:49 am
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Nitpicks... USB Type-C is a physical connector. USB 3.1 is the actual data standard. USB PD (power delivery) is the power standard. A primer:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/us...her,29933.html

The Nintendo Switch uses the common standard for HDMI out over USB-C - but it requires the non-standard power input before it will activate its HDMI.
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Originally Posted by paperwastage
Nintendo switch uses that physical connector, but doesn't comform to the power spec or the display-ouput spec either
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The Nintendo Switch uses the common standard for HDMI out over USB-C - but it requires the non-standard power input before it will activate its HDMI.
No idea what y'all are about.

The Nintendo Switch uses DisplayPort alternate mode and a DisplayPort - HDMI converter as practically everyone else does. It doesn't use HDMI Alternate Mode which, while exists, is not implemented by any host or adapter. It is quite standard compliant, AFAIK resetting and re-advertising the capabilities of a downstream port is not against the standard. Also, while the docked Switch does violate the USB PD standard in a very specific edge case (split PDO), in practice there are no cases where this caused a problem, in practice it's a totally USB PD compliant device.

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What are the advantages of GaN aside from being able to produce smaller and lighter chargers?

Seems like some GaN chargers aren't that much smaller or lighter, such as this Anker model

For instance, this Anker with USB-C 60W PD port and a USB-A port is GaN:

Amazon Amazon

But this RAVPower with USB-C 61W PD and USB-A port is not GaN but yet about the same size. May be 1 ounce more (4 vs. 5 ounces) though it's hard to determine the actual weight of the units.

Amazon Amazon

Maybe the Anker has some Quick Charge modes for phones and tablets that the RAV Power doesn't have? Or maybe it's faster charging for laptops from the PD port, even though both are rated approximately the same?

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Originally Posted by wco81
What are the advantages of GaN aside from being able to produce smaller and lighter chargers?
A quick Google...

Originally Posted by chargerlab.com
The major advantage of GaN component over traditional Silicon-based component is efficiency. In the application of power devices, GaN FET can achieve up to 40% less of power loss while at the same time have 15X smaller footprint.
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Speaking of GaN, the Anker PowerPort 60W (total, 45W USB-C and 15W USB-A) is on
sale today for $28.15 sale today for $28.15
, typically been at $43.
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The single port RavPower usb-c 60W PD is also on sale for $26 https://slickdeals.net/f/13618933-ra...?src=frontpage This one is pretty small and pairs well if you already have a tiny USB-A charger. I use it with 15 and 13" Macbook Pro.
Teardown: https://www.chargerlab.com/ravpower-...-the-new-norm/

Still waiting for a good format 2 USB-C, 1 USB-A PD charger to strike my fancy. Baseus 2C1A is close.
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I think the single port chargers would have to be half the size to be worth it, not 2/3 the size.

The two ports are more useful, since you're going to have limited outlet space in many hotels.
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Lost my dual USB Anker car charger so I searched and found there are now PD ports in car chargers.

Anker has a couple of car chargers with a USB-C PD port and a IQ USB A port so those would seem to be good choices, especially to charge a phone and an iPad at the same time on some longer drives.

But here’s one from a lesser known brand which seems to compare with the Ankers:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RHSD9WM/?coliid=I15YKDZ7N676WQ&colid=3MES65KGZXELG&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RHSD9WM/?coliid=I15YKDZ7N676WQ&colid=3MES65KGZXELG&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

You’d save money but maybe best to stick with Anker for fast charging. I have iPhone 8 Plus and 2017 iPad Pro. I know the iPhone will charge fast from USB-c to Lightning and maybe also with the IQ port as well.

Anyone try these newer car chargers with USB-C?
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Hyper is bringing out a 100W 4 port (2 USB-C + 2 USB-A) GaN charger, but it is Hyper...

Anyway, I just picked up an Innergie 60C on Amazon with a “40% coupon”.... I was waiting for the right price, and <$70 was it for me, will allow me to drop the ridiculously-large laptop charger. Not sure if the coupon is available for everyone, but thought it might be helpful to some.
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If want a compact(ish) charger

2 USB TypeC (one fast at 45-60W, one slower at 18W)
1 or more typeA at 12W each, qc optional

TypeC is used to charge laptop , and charge phone (I don't want to fast charge my phone, heats up battery too much)

Most charges I've seen are "desktop"-like , i.e. need a separate wire from charger to 120v outlet. I prefer a built-in plug, anyone have any suggestions?

Eg separate wire, plug not built in:
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Originally Posted by paperwastage
If want a compact(ish) charger

2 USB TypeC (one fast at 45-60W, one slower at 18W)
1 or more typeA at 12W each, qc optional

TypeC is used to charge laptop , and charge phone (I don't want to fast charge my phone, heats up battery too much)

Most charges I've seen are "desktop"-like , i.e. need a separate wire from charger to 120v outlet. I prefer a built-in plug, anyone have any suggestions?

Eg separate wire, plug not built in: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07Y9JSYXV

Scroll down to the bottom of that page and they list Anker and Aukey with dual USB-C ports but not a USB-A port. Of course not having the USB-A ports allow them to make a much smaller charger using GaN.
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Scroll down to the bottom of that page and they list Anker and Aukey with dual USB-C ports but not a USB-A port. Of course not having the USB-A ports allow them to make a much smaller charger using GaN.
No, I need at least one usbA to charge my camera/qc20/others

I guess a separate wire isn't that much more annoying, just wonder if someone has seen a built-in plug with the ports I want
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