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Old Sep 12, 2018, 12:26 pm
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Originally Posted by tmiw
Looks like the iPhone Xs has dual SIM support too. Only the China version has two physical SIM cards though; the rest of the models are eSIM + physical SIM. Is eSIM a huge disadvantage? (I'm thinking not if from the US--since most carriers likely will support eSIM--but maybe I'm wrong.)
I'm thinking you have your primary line go eSim, so you have the sim slot available for roaming. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by IslesFan
I'm thinking you have your primary line go eSim, so you have the sim slot available for roaming. Maybe I'm wrong.
That's what I'm thinking too. It does mean that your phone is basically a single SIM phone if you're on certain MVNOs, unless there's some sort of way to provision a prepaid SIM on the eSIM.
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 1:11 pm
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Originally Posted by tmiw
Looks like the iPhone Xs has dual SIM support too. Only the China version has two physical SIM cards though; the rest of the models are eSIM + physical SIM. Is eSIM a huge disadvantage? (I'm thinking not if from the US--since most carriers likely will support eSIM--but maybe I'm wrong.)
AFAIK, the only carrier offering esim support for a phone is Project Fi - and Project Fi is unlikely to support Iphones. Activating the esim seems to require some software on the phone (a downloaded app), based on my Project Fi experience.
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 1:27 pm
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Either the esim or sim slot can be your primary line. As noted the problem, at least initially, will be availability of esim support through carriers. Apple did show these carriers when discussing esim support: Verizon, T-Mobile, AT&T, Bell, EE, Vodafone, Airtel, Deutsche Telekom, Truphone, GigSky and Jio.

Apple instructions for setting up the esim and sim:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209044
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 3:27 pm
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Originally Posted by jerry a. laska
Either the esim or sim slot can be your primary line. As noted the problem, at least initially, will be availability of esim support through carriers. Apple did show these carriers when discussing esim support: Verizon, T-Mobile, AT&T, Bell, EE, Vodafone, Airtel, Deutsche Telekom, Truphone, GigSky and Jio.

Apple instructions for setting up the esim and sim:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209044
Looks like it's either QR code or carrier app for eSIM provisioning. Hopefully getting the former won't be a hassle for those traveling. ^
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 3:31 pm
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I think I had my first dual SIM phone maybe a decade ago, Apple is WAY behind on these things....
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 5:12 pm
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Originally Posted by hfly
I think I had my first dual SIM phone maybe a decade ago, Apple is WAY behind on these things....
but which dualsim LTE "world" phone have so many LTE bands (and CDMA support for those stuck on verizon/sprint)?

given its a dual standby phone (some phones are dual active).

not sure if one SIM is 3G data only and other SIM is LTE (highly unlikely since one is non-phyiscally-swappable eSIM)


FDD‑LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 29, 30, 32, 66, 71)
TD‑LTE (Bands 34, 38, 39, 40, 41, 46)
CDMA EV-DO Rev. A (800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 11:22 pm
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Originally Posted by paperwastage
but which dualsim LTE "world" phone have so many LTE bands (and CDMA support for those stuck on verizon/sprint)?
The Oneplus 6 (and soon to be released 6T which may add more) have very decent coverage already...

FDD LTE:
Band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66/71
TDD LTE: Band 34/38/39/40/41
TD-SCDMA: Band 34/39
UMTS(WCDMA): Band 1/2/4/5/8/9/19
CDMA: BC0/BC1
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 11:36 pm
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From reading the Apple link above

What you need

So it sounds like initially it will just be the physical SIM. I guess this may be dependent on the carrier but I am hoping that it will seamless/painless to transfer my current TMO iPhone 7 service to an eSim. Initially I guess I would just use the current nano-SIM in the SIM slot.

Too bad that will come later -- I leave Oct 3 on a European trip and will take a second phone (Nexus 5X) that has my German SIM and it would be nice to carry one fewer phones
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 11:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Aus_Mal
The Oneplus 6 (and soon to be released 6T which may add more) have very decent coverage already...

FDD LTE:
Band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66/71
TDD LTE: Band 34/38/39/40/41
TD-SCDMA: Band 34/39
UMTS(WCDMA): Band 1/2/4/5/8/9/19
CDMA: BC0/BC1
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
I have the OnePlus 6 and I was under the impression that it was basically GSM/LTE only. Or at least, Sprint and Verizon don't work on it anyway.
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Old Sep 13, 2018, 1:25 am
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Ugh. Apple sure knows how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Anyone know if I can get the real dual SIM model if I go to Hong Kong?
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Old Sep 13, 2018, 6:42 am
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Originally Posted by Aus_Mal
The Oneplus 6 (and soon to be released 6T which may add more) have very decent coverage already...

FDD LTE:
Band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66/71
TDD LTE: Band 34/38/39/40/41
TD-SCDMA: Band 34/39
UMTS(WCDMA): Band 1/2/4/5/8/9/19
CDMA: BC0/BC1
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
that phone's 0.5 years old, not 10 years old

(though 10 years ago, LTE didn't exist. you had your quad band 2G and pentaband 3G "world" phones)

aka apple isn't that far behind oneplus6's offering.. lets see how the esim+physical sim works on apple
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Old Sep 13, 2018, 9:04 am
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I do not know if it's still topical, but if you're a fan of apple products, then the new iPhone is perfect. If on android then I advise Xiaomi Redmi 5 plus.
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Old Sep 13, 2018, 9:28 am
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Yeah. I have the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 Global. It may not have all the LTE bands listed above, but it's close. Overall it's a very solid device.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.gsmar...-ampp-8529.php
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Old Sep 13, 2018, 10:32 am
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Originally Posted by jerry a. laska
Either the esim or sim slot can be your primary line. As noted the problem, at least initially, will be availability of esim support through carriers.
Implementing support for eSIMs is inconsequential if a carrier already has the infrastructure in place to support MVNOs on their network. Although that isn't to say there won't be dogmatic resistance.

Rogers in Canada had to be dragged kicking and screaming.
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